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EG52NV
13-03-2012, 09:41 AM
Hey Guys, with all this recent unpredicted wet weather and floods in Sydney plus in preparation for winter, I'm thinking about putting my Injen CAI on the bench for the next 6 months and picking up a Simota whale penis intake...

Reason being, I don't want to get caught out in the rain in front of a 20cm deep puddle and then not being able to drive through it in risk of hydro lock... Nor will I switch off the car and abandon it just to come back to find that flash flooding has now washed it away, best example is when when Governor Macquarie Lake broke its banks in Warwick Farm and roads were as least 20cm deep in water..

Can anyone who's switched from a CAI which sits in the wheel well, to a whale penis provide any feedback?

senna
13-03-2012, 10:36 AM
Although not a civic i have done this on my XR6T - the CAI i normally run sits behind the front fog lamp and as a result got me a little worried about heavy rain and flooding so i tried changing to one in the engine bay - results were less than desirable with alot of heat-soak while in stop start traffic.

I changed back and i haven't had any issues with water ingestion while its raining - plus i don't drive through flood waters, lol!

Its different because my car is turbocharged and obviously the under bonnet temps are higher, but it was quite noticeable.

current set-up

http://rapidsystems.com.au/web_images/5sen.jpg

curtis265
13-03-2012, 10:43 AM
If the whale penis has a bit of fresh air it would be OK i suppose.. given that the ambient air temperature would be a bit cooler in winter.

the heatsoak in summer though would be horrible

Bludger
13-03-2012, 10:44 AM
Winter isn't known as a rainy season.

I've never had problems with the injen.

most of the problems you hear about water getting into engines if from an inexperienced person.

markismaximus
13-03-2012, 12:18 PM
http://rapidsystems.com.au/web_images/5sen.jpg

is the intercooler piping normally plumbed that way? how do you install the headlight? or changed for track use?

senna
13-03-2012, 12:28 PM
Not normally like that, but the black silicon just fits, slightly deforms when headlight is installed but hasn't proved to be an issue :thumbsup:

Bludger
13-03-2012, 12:55 PM
must be quiet as, considering all that piping.

senna
13-03-2012, 12:57 PM
Not really, sounds like an F18 jet....

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar3152_44.gif

EG52NV
13-03-2012, 04:09 PM
Winter isn't known as a rainy season.

I've never had problems with the injen.

most of the problems you hear about water getting into engines if from an inexperienced person.

just use common sense.

a rarity these days.

I was also thinking along those lines too... We might get less rain and just more cold in winter, because rain/storms generally form due to extremely hot and humid weather...

mugen_ctr
13-03-2012, 09:30 PM
Honestly dont think you will get hydro lock, been in some hairy rainy situation.... where theres similar puddle as you described with cai

From my experience, when crossing those deep puddles either stop an do u-turn to higher ground... or creep slowly in the puddle, that wont create any form of splash or kick up water...... Though it may take 10 yrs to cross, better to have a car that still runs than a car thats hydro locked lol.........

dougie_504
14-03-2012, 10:33 AM
Or just get out, pop bonnet and disconnect CAI from throttle body until you reach the other side.

EG52NV
14-03-2012, 11:11 AM
^ wait what!!! Give that man a ****ing beer! Why have I never though of that earlier?

I'm no afraid of splash back was more worried about air filter being completely submerged.

Ok its settled then CAI stays!

dougie_504
14-03-2012, 10:09 PM
You'll be fine seriously. Just carry a screwdriver for the clamp. Those $10 tool kits are worth keeping in your car ftmfw

simmy
14-03-2012, 10:14 PM
you can always get a hydro shield for your injen but it wont protect it completely, simota whale penis sounds good but heat sucking straight in

oopoc
15-03-2012, 06:49 AM
I hope you are aware the whole filter has to be submerged and the whole system airtight for it to suck water up. Because water is heavier than air if the filter isn't completely submerged urge air will still come thru. But aem have a solution. It's called a cold air bypass it replaces the silicon connector somewhere higher up I.e. stock filter location., would be much easyer to just use that then replacing the whole intake

EG52NV
15-03-2012, 06:51 AM
you can always get a hydro shield for your injen but it wont protect it completely, simota whale penis sounds good but heat sucking straight in

Correct me if I'm wrong buy pretty sure hydro shields do nothing if filter is submerged in water.. And it wouldn't be hard coz water would only need to come up to front bumper and then it's GG...

EG52NV
15-03-2012, 06:53 AM
Hydro shield you say...

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9721/42529526349642706314611.jpg

EG52NV
15-03-2012, 06:55 AM
I hope you are aware the whole filter has to be submerged and the whole system airtight for it to suck water up. Because water is heavier than air if the filter isn't completely submerged urge air will still come thru. But aem have a solution. It's called a cold air bypass it replaces the silicon connector somewhere higher up I.e. stock filter location., would be much easyer to just use that then replacing the whole intake

Hmmm AEM are thinking out side the box... Injen is one pipe from TB to filter... Can't replace silicon connector if there isn't one...

oopoc
15-03-2012, 06:59 AM
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9721/42529526349642706314611.jpg

Bugger that....
I don't know where your filter sits, but I had a similar concern with my old ek1 (floods alot along my road 15-20 cm) and my filter was only fully submerged once and the aem cold air bypass saved it. Well worth it in my option for the wet months.
http://img.tapatalk.com/31b4d85f-06b3-1d1e.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/31b4d85f-06bc-e8f2.jpg

oopoc
15-03-2012, 07:02 AM
Hmmm AEM are thinking out side the box... Injen is one pipe from TB to filter... Can't replace silicon connector if there isn't one...

I had a similar thing (some idiot welded mine together) so I just replaced it at the throttle body. Tho that means you intake and throttle body need to be the size. I had a velocity stack on the end so I was sweet

dougie_504
16-03-2012, 02:21 PM
Hydro shield you say...

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9721/42529526349642706314611.jpg


Yeah fail. In that case remove bonnet and turn your CAI to face the sky :D lol

honda4444
09-04-2012, 09:01 PM
if your that worried just wait until someone else goes threw the water then skick right up the ass useing there wake to keep your cia from water?
when i owned my bravo i use to hammer threw water and id have a number of small cars on my tail lol