HELP! 6UL's not fitting rears (updated with Pics) see page 2

[quang]

Hi Everyone,
Just went the to tyre shop today and they couldn't fit the rears on the car.
The clearances from the control arm? bit that attached to the hub itself which connects to the upper control arm.

has a clearance of about 1mm from the rim on the left
but the right has clearance of about 5mm or more.

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Does anyone know:
1: the clearance they had for the rears on a EK civic with the 6UL's? to help find out if one or the other is bent
2: are there any differences between the EKs/EGs civic hatchback all years/model rear trailing arm/hub assemblies? i'm talking even thickness of parts. i am assuming sedan assemblies wouldn't fit.
3: if i get a spacer how much clearance do i need to be safe the rears won't hit the control arm?

Thanks!!

[EG5]

Are you running 15x8 ? What tyre size ?
Are you hitting rear trailing arm ?
We run 3mm spacer on the rear as We got 225/50/15 on 15x8 on our K24 EK. Tyres rub on the rear trailing arm without 3mm spacer.

[quang]

Yes, i have the 15x8's with a 205/50/15 AD08.
I didn't get a good chance to see if was rubbing on trailing arm. When we were spinning the wheel around it didn't seem to be impeded by anything. So i don't think so.
But what i did see was the inside edge of the rim being 1mm away from the where the upper control arm bolts into the hub assembly on the left side and 5mm or so on the right side.
The offset of the wheels should be right as we swapped the wheels around and the same thing happened.

[Riced_Civic]

doesnt the 949 Site say that 8inch on the rears must use spacers.

[quang]

Yonas,
Could you do a massive favour and have a look at the clearance of your wheels from your hub assembly upright to the inside edge of the wheel lip and tell me how far away it is?
Thanks!

[tiksie]

doesnt the 949 Site say that 8inch on the rears must use spacers.

This.

Spacers are a must.

[quang]

If i were to get some i would be looking at 4mm spacers. Where can i get them from? The tyre shop i went to didn't have them.

[Lukey]

are the bushes on the rear all good? sometime partially collapsed/totally collapsed/rotten bushes can make things sit uneven from side to side

[quang]

or if i have to get 5mm ones, do i need extended studs?

[Riced_Civic]

anything above 3mm i would suggest longer studs. get a set of H&R 5mm with studs and ull be laughing.

[quang]

are the bushes on the rear all good? sometime partially collapsed/totally collapsed/rotten bushes can make things sit uneven from side to side

Changed all my bushes a little while ago, they should be good.

[quang]

anything above 3mm i would suggest longer studs. get a set of H&R 5mm with studs and ull be laughing.

With the extended stud, you have to knock out your old ones and replace them with the new ones yeah?

[Riced_Civic]

yep, they replace ur OEM studs.

look up on how to do them on YT very quick and easy.

[Wru]

I'm using 15x8 6Ul with 1cm spacers and 225/50/15, the wheel itself sits perfectly flush with the guards (Which have been rolled) but the tyre's being wider then the wheel itself the tyres stick outside the guard by like a 1/2cm maybe less.

I didn't get any problem with the rear wheels hitting anything, the reason I needed the spacers was the fronts didn't quite clear the brakes only by like a couple mm.

This is on my EG Civic so I don't know about an EK.

[EG5]

15x8 with 225/50/15 and 3mm spacer
It shows clearance between tyre/wheel and Rear Trailing Arm
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/6861151980_db5a3b0031_b.jpg

[quang]

Wow thats pretty close, thanks for the pic!
so there is not scrubbing issues with it being that close using the 3mm spacer? To me that looks about 5mm clear.
Are you able to get a pic of the where the upright connects to the upper control arm? thats the pinch point for me. I'll try and get a pic of what i'm talking about this weekend.

[EG5]

Wow thats pretty close, thanks for the pic!
so there is not scrubbing issues with it being that close using the 3mm spacer? To me that looks about 5mm clear.
Are you able to get a pic of the where the upright connects to the upper control arm? thats the pinch point for me. I'll try and get a pic of what i'm talking about this weekend.

No Issue at all and im on 225/50 tyres

[quang]

Ok heres some pics people and you can see what i'm talking about.

The upright from the hub assembly is really close to the inside lip of the wheel. The other side has a gap of 5mm or more, i'm not sure whats going on.
The bit of cardboard stuck in the gap is approx 1mm to 2mm wide.
Is this normal?
Will 4mm be enough of a clearance between the upright and wheel to accomodate flex and unbalanced wheels (in the event that the wheel picks up some gunk or rocks)

Thanks!!!

[Alexx]

yea just run 3mm spacers and you will be fine. You can also shave a little bit off the trailing arm there where it is hitting.

Like so:

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z156/donutmikey/DC2/IMG_7508.jpg

[waix]

what do u need to do to fix x9 on the back?

[SuperJDM.]

what do u need to do to fix x9 on the back?

Spacers

[waix]

Spacers

how many mm?

[Riced_Civic]

5mm and up

[SuperJDM.]

for the rears only? correct me if im wrong...

[Riced_Civic]

as far as i know only for the rears, but you would want to run 5 at the front also to make it looks even

[quang]

I guess following on from all this.
Any ideas as to why the left and right has different clearances?
Is something bent?

[Riced_Civic]

most likely sum thing is bent, if theres a 3 to 5mm gap on one side and other has only 1 or 2.

[EG5]

what do u need to do to fix x9 on the back?

10mm spacer will work to clear those rear trailing arm

[dorikin]

Seems like possibly bent trailing arms, which is sorta unheard of in this type of instance

check that you don't have some weird different disc thickness.. and does one wheel stick out further than the other?

[quang]

Not that i can see.
i measured the disc hub depth both are the same for both sides, unless one is thinner on the inside part of the disc. however if that were to be the case i would think that brakes wouldn't fit properly.

Does any one know if there is any hub assembly differences between the EK hatchback models?

So it turns out that the inside edge of the of rear guard lip scrubs on the tyre for both sides, only just, which is fixable with rolling the guard a bit. However, the front guard also hits the tyre over large bumps on the fold of the guard. Anyone experienced this before? Anyway to get around it? Currently have -1deg camber was going to increase to -1.5deg. Remember this is still my daily so uber amounts of camber is not practical.
The way i see it there's no point in having these wheels if they are going to bottom out around the track.