b16a2 timing belt replacement

[communic]

Hey,

I know most of you are gunna say "use the search" But, I am struggling to find a tutorial or a write up on replacing a b16a2 timing belt.

So if you've got a service book can you please scan the timing belt part or even a link to a write up?

Cheers,

[mocchi]

http://www.spoonertuner.com/manuals

[stndrd]

Make sure you have a camshaft locking tool when you do it. Last thing you want is the spring loaded cam to spin on you and you don't know which way it went

[Lukey]

Make sure you have a camshaft locking tool when you do it. Last thing you want is the spring loaded cam to spin on you and you don't know which way it went

is it the same on b18b2?

[stndrd]

on all B & H series

[Lukey]

cant say ive ever heard of that before :/

[grifty]

use a 2x5mm drill bits to hold the cam in place, in the service manual it shows you where to place them.

[markismaximus]

hold up... you guys are locking the cam in place to loosen the crank pulley bolt? never seen that in any FSM...

logically that sounds like it would make it more difficult to loosen the crank bolt as the belt would be stretching a little bit.

This is from EK manual

http://www.justanswer.com/uploads/JHoop/2008-01-09_225726_SHOT2097.jpg

[mocchi]

hold up... you guys are locking the cam in place to loosen the crank pulley bolt? never seen that in any FSM...

logically that sounds like it would make it more difficult to loosen the crank bolt as the belt would be stretching a little bit.

This is from EK manual

http://www.justanswer.com/uploads/JHoop/2008-01-09_225726_SHOT2097.jpg

no no, loosen crank pulley with the crank pulley holder tool.
then use camshaft tool to hold camshaft in place when removing timing belt

not using camshaft holder tool to remove crank pulley

[markismaximus]

hmmm I don't feel its really necessary to lock the cam in place. It doesn't move that freely.

just ensure the cam/crank markings still line up before you put the new belt on. easy as that

[stndrd]

I do timing belts day in day out, and the one thing I have learnt with twin/quad cam engines is to always lock the cam gears in place. It is always better to be safe then sorry. Have seen people end up having a single cam 180 degrees out because a cam gear has spun on them and they have lined it up incorrectly (usually when the cam gear has timing marks 180 degrees apart, like Honda cam gears do)

[Lukey]

whats a good way to loosen crank pulley when the engine is on a stand?

[stndrd]

Snap On cordless rattle gun or a IR 1000nm 1/2 rattle gun (requires a big compressor)

[Lukey]

dont have either and cant afford either.

is there some way i can lock it up?

[na-118]

yes cam locking tool

[markismaximus]

dont have either and cant afford either.

is there some way i can lock it up?

yes. for free too.

use a flat piece of bar (steel or aluminium) and lock the flywheel... like so

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/Honda%20FSM%20Pages/EDSwapWeek5-030.jpg

or this for auto (excuse the circle. not relevant to this but already had them uploaded)

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/Honda%20FSM%20Pages/bolt.jpg

[mocchi]

not gonna work if engine in stand
still very hard when engine on ground.

only way to do it when engine in stand is rattle gun.

you'll tip it over.


need this
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQn1f3G1RAlSzEy_bFfUEj04bGaykU8u m4oknteCjZUKTwDRuyH22usFFrQ-A

[stndrd]

I would not recommend doing locking the ring gear as you run the risk of damaging it

[markismaximus]

not gonna work if engine in stand
still very hard when engine on ground.

only way to do it when engine in stand is rattle gun.

you'll tip it over.


need this
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQn1f3G1RAlSzEy_bFfUEj04bGaykU8u m4oknteCjZUKTwDRuyH22usFFrQ-A

Thats funny cos I loosened mine on the stand... Didn't tip over


I would not recommend doing locking the ring gear as you run the risk of damaging it

Whose locking the ring gear? The flywheel is bolted to the block. Not touching the ring gear

[mocchi]

Thats funny cos I loosened mine on the stand... Didn't tip over



Whose locking the ring gear? The flywheel is bolted to the block. Not touching the ring gear

you locked flywheel while on engine stand and removed crankshaft bolt with a breaker bar and didnt tip over the engine?
damn i need to learn how to do this. good job mun

btw, is your engine stand is like the red or blue?

http://hydraulic-jack.com/upload/big/Mount_Engine_Stand_270_0_1291704057.jpg

http://www.jbwade.com.au/images/product/large/transmission/l__Engine%20Stand.gif

[stndrd]

My appologies I didn't see the picture properly. Was on my phone when I posted that

[markismaximus]

neither. its like this https://www.alltools.com.au/shop/images/sz/192.jpg

I'm also not using a normal breaker bar. I'm using a special hammer impact breaker. Basically a breaker bar that is designed to be hit with a hammer. But from the top, so force is directed downwards. Tried to find a pic on google but not having much success

[mocchi]

oh ok, i think thats the key in your success mang
im just using socket + breaker bar + extension.

i assumed you were using normal breaker bar + socket.

[TbM]

neither. its like this https://www.alltools.com.au/shop/images/sz/192.jpg

I'm also not using a normal breaker bar. I'm using a special hammer impact breaker. Basically a breaker bar that is designed to be hit with a hammer. But from the top, so force is directed downwards. Tried to find a pic on google but not having much success
You talking about these bad boys?
http://www.sidchrome.com.au/product/7315/12-drive-impact-bar-the-breaker-bar-with-impact

http://www.sidchrome.com.au/CmsContent/Images/AP/2220_2.jpg

[markismaximus]

nup. thats not it

[TbM]

Thats an impact breaker bar tho, you hit it on the black head with a hammer like you described.
http://www.sidchrome.com.au/CmsContent/Images/AP/2226_2.jpg

If thats not it would be interested to see what your using.

[mocchi]

Thats an impact breaker bar tho, you hit it on the black head with a hammer like you described.
http://www.sidchrome.com.au/CmsContent/Images/AP/2226_2.jpg

If thats not it would be interested to see what your using.

inb4ancientaliens

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar34799_6.gif

[markismaximus]

this is it. socket on the end. smash the other end with a hammer. 10 billion times easier than breaker bar. Delivers a single impact which helps loosen the bolt

http://www.saalltools.com.au/images/uploads/sp70865.jpg

[mocchi]

hey man thats good tool, never seen it before. where and how much?

[TbM]

Interesting, never seen one of them before, thanks for that.

[markismaximus]

Think repco sell them. $100ish. I just borrow my old mans

[Bludger]

no need that tool if you have 3/4 rattle gun.

add $50

for $150, find yourself a rattle gun @ the markets.

[Lukey]

i seen that tool in one of the tool catalogues and thought about buying it.

i have taken the flex plate off the engine already and the auto should be getting picked up this weekend

[Lukey]

took a iphone pic of my cam gears, how do they lock up? (no i havent set it to TDC yet as i still need to do the tappets)

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/530982_10151457546695696_894625695_23548123_130831 3646_n.jpg

[Chr1s]

Look on top of the cam rails, there is holes. A tool goes in the hole which locks the camshaft to the cam rail. I don't advise doing it with this method unless you have the right material bar to put in there, time and time again people use tool hardened steel which just snaps when loaded with a shear force (screwdrivers, punches, etc). Next thing you know you have to fish out the piece of metal stuck in the hole/head or even worse, down the oil gallery.

If the cam does rotate, you can't lose which way it went. The honda cams have very good markings so you would have to be a severe dingus to get a honda cam 180degree out. The crank pulley should be lined up at TDC mark, the cam gears should be lined up with the "UP" facing up and the horizontal marks lined up with the casting marks on the plastic backing.

[stndrd]

A tool like this will lock your cam gears perfectly lukey

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/objects_lg/images/ML5000.jpg

[Bludger]

took a iphone pic of my cam gears, how do they lock up? (no i havent set it to TDC yet as i still need to do the tappets)

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/530982_10151457546695696_894625695_23548123_130831 3646_n.jpg
why you wanna lock up your cams lukey?