Hey guys want you opinion on my CL9 ( mainly about lowering.)

[kural7]

Hey guys had this car for a while and there is nothing to list that you can't already see :) i want to lower the car but am hearing too many different opinions through friends to turned to ozhonda :) I want the car to sit a little lower ( still legal) and smooth if possible. my current budget is around the 400-500 mark. whats the go with camber wear kits and struts/shockers leaking etc? just a simplified version please. THANK YOU! more pictures will come im not even sure if they worked so please be patient and understanding.. Cheers :)

[-[NoS]-]

how did you do the blackout on the window trim?

[mrgu]

Buddy club coilover ftw $1200

[Fredoops]

or Tein Street Basic Coilover for $980 delivered to ur door (made in japan)

Buddyclub is made in Canada i think.....

BC/Megan/Ksport is made in Taiwan/China,


For $500 you'll be limited to Springs, but that will kill your shock so you might spend the same money as coil over at the end of the day.

[adis]

Kural7, if you want smooth ride, im afraid the posters above are wrong in my opinion. I assume you are looking for smooth and normal ride, not firm and if thats the case (i could be wrong) you need to get your self a set of pedders or eibach springs.

In short i found:
Springs:close to standard quality ride with improved looks and slightly better handling. Height can not be adjusted. usually cheaper.
Coilovers: Always stiffer ride, more sportier and height can be adjusted. Everyday ride quality does suffer. More expensive.

In both of my other cars i ended up ripping out my coilovers and installing pedders and lovels springs but thats my personal preference and opinion :)

[Fredoops]

Kural7, if you want smooth ride, im afraid the posters above are wrong in my opinion. I assume you are looking for smooth and normal ride, not firm and if thats the case (i could be wrong) you need to get your self a set of pedders or eibach springs.

In short i found:
Springs:close to standard quality ride with improved looks and slightly better handling. Height can not be adjusted. usually cheaper.
Coilovers: Always stiffer ride, more sportier and height can be adjusted. Everyday ride quality does suffer. More expensive.

In both of my other cars i ended up ripping out my coilovers and installing pedders and lovels springs but thats my personal preference and opinion :)

That depends on the springs and coil-overs, you cant just blanket-ly say "Coilovers are harsh" :-)
Hint: look at the coil-over specs next time before you handover the cash lol.

As to springs, lowered springs WILL kill your shocks absorbers. Especially if car isnt all that new. so you endup having to take the car into a shop twice.. labour is $$$ here.

IIRC coilovers like Teins Street Advance is actually SOFTER than OEM suspension (correct me if im wrong)

Oh and.... you could always go for OEM performance, Honda USA sells A-SPEC suspension for CL9 you could use..

[adis]

Hint: look at the coil-over specs next time before you handover the cash lol.

Ive been in 20+ cars with coilovers and i didnt find any of them comfortable for every day.
Your not wrong, there are different specs coilovers but in general, almost all are way to stiff and harsh for me for every day use. -)

[Rudy]

You're not going to get anywhere with that budget. Probably best to save up for either a spring and aftermarket shock combo or a coilover kit both minimum 1k. Running aftermarket springs on stock shocks will wear out the shocks faster as others have said and decrease ride quality.

[Fredoops]

isnt some one selling a set for Form/Function coilovers for $600 on the traders section?

[daKIK]

Everyone here rates the eibach pro springs highly, so u cant go wrong there!
I installed tanabe nf210 springs on my euro a couple weeks back, and I must say there a great set of springs. Ride feels nearly as comfortable as stock, so I would have to say that there as good as the eibachs! and u get a nice modest drop, around 1.5inches
I picked em up for just under $300 delivered off ebay

[marquee]

What cars have you been on what were the spring rates.

My euro was fine for daily drive.

Long wheel base and low spring rates play the difference.

[3RotaRX]

Since im on a budget, i ordered Function/Form Type 1's. They are on their way from the states and will let you guys know how they are.

[marquee]

Good choice best bang for buck. Did you get them from heeltoe

[HEURO]

nice rims mate, looks real good with the blue. once lowered will look unreal. gl man

[NightKids]

Tein S-Techs are great springs that you can use with your stock shocks. The drop is very nice and comfort is retained.

[3RotaRX]

Ordered them on Ebay, they are called dohc garage. it was 800 delivered and our money was strong so yeahh :) I have heard good things about them. I heard they go as low as low as having your car resting on the ground. One thing type ones dont have is soft and hard setting, although you could pay a little more and get type 2s for about $1030 with no shipping.

[ray0303]

How did you black out your window trim?

[-[NoS]-]

How did you black out your window trim?

i still wanna know this... lol i got tomorrow off..

[tony1234]

Ive been in 20+ cars with coilovers and i didnt find any of them comfortable for every day.
Your not wrong, there are different specs coilovers but in general, almost all are way to stiff and harsh for me for every day use. -)
+1.Coilovers do not suit the Euro.Either Eibach/Bilstein or Koni combo.You'll be more than happy with this setup.

[Ando.L]

Im using lowered king springs on stock shocks atm and everything is fine. lowered the car 35mm.

Ride quality has remained the same, I can't even notice the change and has finished the look of the car nicely.

If you've got $400-500 to play with then you'll get king springs plus installation easy.

[-[NoS]-]

Which king springs?? Super lows??? Got picture??

[Ando.L]

30mm low springs and the best picture i got atm is my avatar.

You thinking of king springs?

[marquee]

U can get eibach for 400 and install them

[HuyT]

-;3309704']i still wanna know this... lol i got tomorrow off..

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?104733-DIY-CL9-EURO-sport-style-Door-strips-(56K-danger-!)&highlight=euro+door

or by paint

http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-car-care/49435-pjotsxs-diy-plasti-dip-chrome-trim.html

[-[NoS]-]

I know what one doing tomorrow...

[longers]

U can get eibach for 400 and install them

this. he only has a budget of 400-500. can't go wrong with that budget for that price range.

[senna]

I'm not sure why everyone assumes that Kings are so expensive - $250 for a full set supply only or $495 supplied & installed. A lot of people are getting ripped off if you asked me...

Then again, a lot of people would say that the above pricing is still a rip off, so what do you do

[Fredoops]

I'm not sure why everyone assumes that Kings are so expensive - $250 for a full set supply only or $495 supplied & installed. A lot of people are getting ripped off if you asked me...

Then again, a lot of people would say that the above pricing is still a rip off, so what do you do

Hey senna compared of installing spring vs coilovers, which is easier?

[senna]

The answer to that is two sided...

Installing coils is quicker since you just take the struts out, replace springs then re-install and align.

Installing coilovers is easier from the point of view that you are simply taking out old struts complete, then replacing them with complete coilover struts - the hardest thing about coilovers (and the most time consuming usually) is the height adjustment and wheel alignment. Some times you can have a car on and off hoists 2 or 3 times before the customer is happy.

Oh, and then once the coilovers settle in, you have to re-align and possibly re-adjust the height.

So overall coil springs are quicker and therefore easier, but if the coilovers were guaranteed by a manufacturer to be correct straight out of the box it would be the other way around.

[tonysalib]

Tein S-Techs are great springs that you can use with your stock shocks. The drop is very nice and comfort is retained.

+1 for Tein S-Techs. If you on a budget they're a great choice.

I've got them on my Euro and am very happy with them. The ride quality is almost as stock and the drop is quite moderate which means you can really use them with stock shocks.

The only downside to them I think is the fact that they drop the front more than the rear (1.7" front, 1.3" rear) but this I think help keep the rear negative camber to a moderate level (more drop = more negative camber) which means you can get away without a rear camber kit.

[peetah]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?104733-DIY-CL9-EURO-sport-style-Door-strips-(56K-danger-!)&highlight=euro+door

or by paint

http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-car-care/49435-pjotsxs-diy-plasti-dip-chrome-trim.html


There's also plasti-dip... I tried it and failed hard at the rear windows. Taking it all off and putting on vinyl this weekend :)

[ray0303]

I got eibach springs from ebay for around 350 and another 200 to install! its pretty decent.
Before
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj604/ray0303/DSC_0405.jpg
After
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj604/ray0303/DSC_0411.jpg
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj604/ray0303/424573_10150499386932395_622977394_7692616_1988843 36_n.jpg

[08r3308]

+1.Coilovers do not suit the Euro.Either Eibach/Bilstein or Koni combo.You'll be more than happy with this setup.

^ This ^
Previosly had cars with coilovers , now before you all say should checkdd before handing over cash, I did.
Had 2pairs of springs with different spring rates and damper set to lowest setting.
Nothing will beat good spring/shock combo.
Atm i have eibach in my cu2 im waiting for blistein to release shocks for this model which will be this year sumetime.
Eibach and my stock shocks are great love it,not too harsh and looks great,as a matter of facts rides simular to stock springs.

[sodaz]

Hey guys had this car for a while and there is nothing to list that you can't already see :) i want to lower the car but am hearing too many different opinions through friends to turned to ozhonda :) I want the car to sit a little lower ( still legal) and smooth if possible. my current budget is around the 400-500 mark. whats the go with camber wear kits and struts/shockers leaking etc? just a simplified version please. THANK YOU! more pictures will come im not even sure if they worked so please be patient and understanding.. Cheers :)

Get Tein or Buddy Club coilovers with a rear camber kit. Do not lower it too much as it's a real pain in the ass driving around Sydney. It may look cool but scraping every driveway or speed bump is not fun at all after a week.

[kural7]

Since im on a budget, i ordered Function/Form Type 1's. They are on their way from the states and will let you guys know how they are.

Hey please do let me know how these are.. thank you :) and how much they cost :)

[kural7]

HELLO GUYS!!! really sorry for the delated reply. now a few guys asked me how i did the black window trim and it was NOT the sticky tape method.. its a spray called FLEXI-DIP.
Heres a quick demo of how it works. There is another write-up so i wont waist my time

http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-car-care/49435-pjotsxs-diy-plasti-dip-chrome-trim.html

Now back to the main purpose of this forum. IM STILL CONFUSED in regards to which springs to get. my budjet is the 500 mark and i understand the concern with saving up a bit extra and getting coilovers but i don't need that much of a drop and want my ride to remain half comfortable. a friend has coil overs and it's way to rough.

So eibach is the current way to go am i correct?

[kural7]

nice rims mate, looks real good with the blue. once lowered will look unreal. gl man

Cheers mate thats the general idea :P trying to get it lowered now.

[kural7]

Everyone here rates the eibach pro springs highly, so u cant go wrong there!
I installed tanabe nf210 springs on my euro a couple weeks back, and I must say there a great set of springs. Ride feels nearly as comfortable as stock, so I would have to say that there as good as the eibachs! and u get a nice modest drop, around 1.5inches
I picked em up for just under $300 delivered off ebay

How are these springs holding up? have you got a link to them? are they smooth? thanks for the post

[kural7]

+1 for Tein S-Techs. If you on a budget they're a great choice.

I've got them on my Euro and am very happy with them. The ride quality is almost as stock and the drop is quite moderate which means you can really use them with stock shocks.

The only downside to them I think is the fact that they drop the front more than the rear (1.7" front, 1.3" rear) but this I think help keep the rear negative camber to a moderate level (more drop = more negative camber) which means you can get away without a rear camber kit.

I definitely don't want to be dishing out more money for camber kits so i think these springs sounds good so far. have you got a link to the exaxt springs you have? cheers

[kural7]

I got eibach springs from ebay for around 350 and another 200 to install! its pretty decent.
Before
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj604/ray0303/DSC_0405.jpg
After
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj604/ray0303/DSC_0411.jpg
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj604/ray0303/424573_10150499386932395_622977394_7692616_1988843 36_n.jpg

THIS IS THE PERFECT HIEGHT/DROP i would like to achieve on my Euro. how would you say the ride is? it is really uncomfortable? also did you need a camber kit to stop camber wear or was the drop low enough to avoid the hassle? thanks for the post really helped me identify the height i want.

[ray0303]

the ride quality feels stockish, if not, just a BIT bouncy, only when going over speed humps :) when i got my eibachs, i had abit of natural camber so i didnt think it was necessary to buy a camber kit. No worries man

[tonysalib]

I definitely don't want to be dishing out more money for camber kits so i think these springs sounds good so far. have you got a link to the exaxt springs you have? cheers

I got mine from eBay US for about $300 landed and cost me $250 to get them installed and wheel aligned by a professional.

Here is a link to similar ones on eBay. This is not the seller i bought mine from, I can't find the one I bought from anymore but just make sure you confirm with them they are genuine authentic TEIN springs coz there are counterfeits floating around.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEIN-S-TECH-LOWERING-SPRINGS-ACURA-TSX-04-08-CL9-/270779331635?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f0bb4b433&vxp=mtr#ht_729wt_842

Good luck

[daKIK]

How are these springs holding up? have you got a link to them? are they smooth? thanks for the post

The springs are holding up fine, and the ride is pretty close to stock, very smooth
heres a link to the ebay seller I bought em from http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Tanabe-NF210-Lowering-Springs-03-07-Accord-V6-4cyl-TSX-LA-CL9-TNF075-/170806683397?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27c4df2705

[akjdfnn]

or Tein Street Basic Coilover for $980 delivered to ur door (made in japan)

Buddyclub is made in Canada i think.....

BC/Megan/Ksport is made in Taiwan/China,


For $500 you'll be limited to Springs, but that will kill your shock so you might spend the same money as coil over at the end of the day.


where do you get the tien street basic coil over from? australian dealer or imported?

[senna]

We can match this price, however you would be waiting anywhere from 2-3 months to arrive on sea freight, otherwise air freight is $340! The Kit is actually $930 through Australian distributors

Street basis has adjustable height but not damper adjust. you also must re-use the OEM top mounts (perfect for a comfy street car.

[Fredoops]

We can match this price, however you would be waiting anywhere from 2-3 months to arrive on sea freight, otherwise air freight is $340! The Kit is actually $930 through Australian distributors

Street basis has adjustable height but not damper adjust. you also must re-use the OEM top mounts (perfect for a comfy street car.

^^^ that, if the price is not to disilmilar ... Use the local guy

[kural7]

hey guys i will post 3 links please take a sexond to point me in the right direction by simply thumbs up for the one you think is best suited for my euro. Also are those the cheapest prices around for those springs? PLEASE only thumb up if you have experienced it and not what you have heard. THANK you in advance :) also if there are any other brands that i should check out please post a link to ebay or wherever it is. thank you


1. TIEN S http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEIN-S-TECH-LOWERING-SPRINGS-ACURA-TSX-04-08-CL9-/270779331635?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f0bb4b433&vxp=mtr#ht_710wt_1163

2. Tanabe http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Tanabe-NF210-Lowering-Springs-03-07-Accord-V6-4cyl-TSX-LA-CL9-TNF075-/170806683397?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27c4df2705#ht_5792wt_1163

3. Eibach http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Honda-Accord-Euro-2-0-2-4-EIBACH-SPORTS-LOWERING-SPRINGS-manual-trans-06-08on-/310372619865?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4843a65659#ht_3419wt_1163

4. Megan http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MEGAN-RACING-LOWERING-SPRINGS-Acura-TSX-04-07-/190603960731?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c60e1a19b#ht_4144wt_1163

5.TIEN H http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TEIN-H-TECH-LOWERING-SPRINGS-ACURA-TSX-04-05-06-08-CL9-/290603083416?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a94b2698#ht_1675wt_1396

6.Neuspeed http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEUSPEED-SPORT-LOWERING-SPRINGS-03-07-ACCORD-4CYL-TSX-/290611166491?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a9c67d1b#ht_1510wt_1396

[marquee]

Lol the eibach link is expensive.

Goto tirerack.com heeltoeauto.com or shox.com for suspension

[cheapdouchebag]

THIS IS THE PERFECT HIEGHT/DROP i would like to achieve on my Euro. how would you say the ride is? it is really uncomfortable? also did you need a camber kit to stop camber wear or was the drop low enough to avoid the hassle? thanks for the post really helped me identify the height i want.

Im having the same drop with my s-techs. no camberwear that you can is really devastating have had it for more than a year now. but you will want to go even lower and stiffen up the car a tad. I wish i just got coilovers in the first place, had to do the job twice so my koni shocks can go in. It feels stock, but ur gunna have to be a little more careful in what you drive on little angle is required on some driveways.
At the moment with the oem 16"s its almost a 2 finger gap in the arches without passengers at the back. imo, a little lower would be nicer still looks like it hasnt been lowered from afar. you will be able to spot the difference next to another euro, but alone u wont imo.

my 2 cents.

cheers.

[tonysalib]

Im having the same drop with my s-techs. no camberwear that you can is really devastating have had it for more than a year now. but you will want to go even lower and stiffen up the car a tad. I wish i just got coilovers in the first place, had to do the job twice so my koni shocks can go in. It feels stock, but ur gunna have to be a little more careful in what you drive on little angle is required on some driveways.
At the moment with the oem 16"s its almost a 2 finger gap in the arches without passengers at the back. imo, a little lower would be nicer still looks like it hasnt been lowered from afar. you will be able to spot the difference next to another euro, but alone u wont imo.

my 2 cents.

cheers.

Don't the Koni shocks have adjustable spring perches that can lower the car a further 20mm? Did you look into that when installing them?

[cheapdouchebag]

i thought the adjustable spring perch that came with the shocks were there so they can adjust to the spring length? if im wrong hell im going to rip my car out for the 3rd time to adjust them

[senna]

The spring seat can be moved to change the height of the vehicle, you simply disassemble the strut move the circlip to a different grove then reassemble the strut.

[Fredoops]

Don't the Koni shocks have adjustable spring perches that can lower the car a further 20mm? Did you look into that when installing them?

I think that's koni yellows only

[senna]

Unless i'm mistaken Koni only make Yellows for the TSX/Accord Euro :thumbsup:

[Fredoops]

Unless i'm mistaken Koni only make Yellows for the TSX/Accord Euro :thumbsup:

Don't they make the koni orange for the cl9?

[senna]

Not in my current catalogue - unless they have it on the American Market only...

The Koni North America web-site is down for some reason