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getm_up
19-04-2012, 08:43 PM
hey guys i recently purchased a new battery, when i turn my car on (engine running) the battery light stays on.
i popped the bonnet and pulled off the negative to the battery and the car still runs.

any suggestions?

sensei_
19-04-2012, 09:38 PM
have you checked that the battery is good? i have encountered a faulty century battery just outside of the retailer. had them exchange it 1:1 without any dramas.

JDM-Panda
19-04-2012, 09:54 PM
When the battery light stays on it means there's a problem with the charging system, the most common cause is the alternator being faulty.

grifty
19-04-2012, 10:20 PM
grab a multimeter and check the battery voltage and the charge voltage.

DC2-PWR
19-04-2012, 10:21 PM
When the battery light stays on it means there's a problem with the charging system, the most common cause is the alternator being faulty.

+1 rep
Check alternator

Azz86
19-04-2012, 10:54 PM
Battery voltage should be roughly 12v with the car turned off. Start it up and it should raise to 13-14v. This means the alternator is charging your battery.

The alternator must be working if the car was running without the battery connected.

XB-16-AX
19-04-2012, 11:15 PM
You may want to check the Voltage Regulator.

this can be found inside the alternator or could be external (depends on the alternator design/model).

Voltage regulator - if faulty, can cause irregular charging/battery or electrical lighting issues.

so if this is faulty it will light up the battery charge light on the cluster or flicker any other lights in the car.

sensei_
19-04-2012, 11:24 PM
just thinking of this when i was away from computer, maybe check if the brushes are good. often the brushes are worn, and all it needs is a replacement.

i remember my camry having this problem

ericl33
19-04-2012, 11:29 PM
Battery voltage should be roughly 12v with the car turned off. Start it up and it should raise to 13-14v. This means the alternator is charging your battery.

The alternator must be working if the car was running without the battery connected.
incorrect, it should be 12.6 when off.

ericl33
19-04-2012, 11:30 PM
just thinking of this when i was away from computer, maybe check if the brushes are good. often the brushes are worn, and all it needs is a replacement.

i remember my camry having this problem
not something you can check unless you take the alternator out.

sensei_
19-04-2012, 11:44 PM
depends where the alternator is i guess. on the camry is was smack bang in the middle of the car, just to the left of the oil filter, so checking that was a piece of cake (for me!).

on the legend, it will be a pain in the butt to check because it is buried just under the engine, with the fans blocking its path

ericl33
19-04-2012, 11:46 PM
depends where the alternator is i guess. on the camry is was smack bang in the middle of the car, just to the left of the oil filter, so checking that was a piece of cake (for me!).

on the legend, it will be a pain in the butt to check because it is buried just under the engine, with the fans blocking its path
All the D series & B series motors I've seen have alternators in a hard to see spot.

and it seems he has a 96' EK (poor guy) sedan

so it would be safe to assume he needs to take it out.

Azz86
20-04-2012, 07:39 AM
incorrect, it should be 12.6 when off.

Well it is correct. Lead acid batteries are never spot on. A new battery should be over 12v but an older one will deteriorate to a value below 12v.

ericl33
20-04-2012, 07:53 AM
Well it is correct. Lead acid batteries are never spot on. A new battery should be over 12v but an older one will deteriorate to a value below 12v.
it should be 12.6v

it should NOT be 12.1v, 12.2v or below 12v

if you're getting those figures you should give it a charge or replace it.

you're not correct.

Azz86
20-04-2012, 05:55 PM
it should be 12.6v

it should NOT be 12.1v, 12.2v or below 12v

if you're getting those figures you should give it a charge or replace it.

you're not correct.

Alright mate. Only been an electrician for 9 years but no worries.

ericl33
20-04-2012, 05:57 PM
Alright mate. Only been an electrician for 9 years but no worries.
:thumbsup:

I only DIY work on cars & DIY home electrical.

9 years > me.

XB-16-AX
20-04-2012, 07:15 PM
:thumbsup:

I only DIY work on cars & DIY home electrical.

9 years > me.


im only 9yrs+ noob and only ever had/owned turbo cars ...only honda for 1yr.

:)

Azz86
21-04-2012, 12:38 AM
:thumbsup:

I only DIY work on cars & DIY home electrical.

9 years > me.

Sorry bud. Not trying to be a d!(& or anything.

Your absolutely right in saying a battery should be at 12.6v. A new battery will be around that voltage. But an older battery could be at 12.1v and still be fine. Remember 0.6v is only 5% which is most likely what the manufacturers tolerance is.

If a battery is heat affected or has suffered from long periods of being discharged you will be able to tell from the voltage if it is f@(&$). It will drop below 11v and will drop significantly under load. Also won't hold charge.