Turbo kit's for a euro?

[Nathn]

Hey guys,

I've been looking a while for one but as far as I can see.. kit's don't exist?

Cheers.

[VTi_b0i]

Check full race? I have a full race kit (not euro tho) one of the best kits money can buy.
U surfed Honda-tech? The states have everything lol why u wana boost a family car tho? Lol

[Fredoops]

Hey guys,

I've been looking a while for one but as far as I can see.. kit's don't exist?

Cheers.

Cheaper/easier to buy a supercharger kit.

[MR_LATE]

Cheaper/easier to buy a supercharger kit.

sooooppppeeerr charger kit .!! aye

[mas10]

How much are the supercharge kits?

[BigBen]

Sell the car or trade it in and get one which has a factory turbo, ie WRX, XR6, EVO!!

[Fredoops]

How much are the supercharge kits?

5000 incl tune iirc crom comptech

[ChaosMaster]

http://www.revzone.com.au/content/ct-engineering-supercharger-kit-honda-civic-fn2-integra-dc5-accord-cl9-k20a-k20z-k24a

That place is in SE Melbourne, assuming your in Vic.

[Nathn]

Sell the car or trade it in and get one which has a factory turbo, ie WRX, XR6, EVO!!

Yeah, your right, most likely it would be more reliable too but you have a car for long enough and you feel a attachment to it I suppose. I have been contemplating getting something different but not sure what exactly and if it's actually worth it.

[Bigpauly2788]

If your not willing to do some serious internal work and ecu, etc to the euro as well as supercharge / turbo than you will be wasting your time. In other words you will not be able to run more than 8 pounds boost without eventually blowing your motor. E.g a standard k24 euro with full motor built NA will keep up if you do not do it properly and by properly you would be spending upwards of 10K EASY

[ChaosMaster]

If your not willing to do some serious internal work and ecu, etc to the euro as well as supercharge / turbo than you will be wasting your time. In other words you will not be able to run more than 8 pounds boost without eventually blowing your motor. E.g a standard k24 euro with full motor built NA will keep up if you do not do it properly and by properly you would be spending upwards of 10K EASY

While true, a S/C kit will give around "50hp" at wheels, or something like 70kw at flywheel? An NA tune of similar state will cost easily twice as much. Even at low boost, it's enough, I don't see the point of having crazy HP for a FWD car anyway.

[Rudy]

Everyone wants supercharger till they see the price lol.

[MR_LATE]

get a golf!

[ChaosMaster]

Sell the car or trade it in and get one which has a factory turbo, ie WRX, XR6, EVO!!

None of those are as classy and comfortable as a Euro though... XR6, especially in BA spec is asking for headaches. You'll spend more fixing it than S/C a Euro.

[snYpz]

U get what u pay for.
What about liberty gt or a 6 mps? Both sedan and luxury-ish and being FI, easier to get more power with basic bolt-ons.
Don't waste your time on the euro if ur not sure what your up for especially with custom fab work. With reliable FI, you will need to sleeve your motor, upgrade to stronger rods and pistons....plus others possibly to keep it reliable besides install of turbo, intercooler and accessories. The torque steer will take away any fun with the car IMO..or any heavy fwd car for that matter.

U have auto or manual?
Auto you have probs with torque converter, manual need heavy duty clutch.
Don't forget about engine management costs and tuning lol :wave:

[natnat]

yes, get a Golf GTI!

unless you have big $$,$$$ to get it done properly you could end up going in and out of workshops trying to rectify this and that... plus you will need engineering certificates / mod plates blah blah to stay legal.

but, i doubt you will get any of the $$,$$$ or $,$$$ you spend on the turbo or supercharger mods when you need to sell.

[MR_LATE]

yes, get a Golf GTI!

unless you have big $$,$$$ to get it done properly you could end up going in and out of workshops trying to rectify this and that... plus you will need engineering certificates / mod plates blah blah to stay legal.

but, i doubt you will get any of the $$,$$$ or $,$$$ you spend on the turbo or supercharger mods when you need to sell.

i second ur second! go OEM turbo and then go from there with certified/reviewed/approved bolt ons. saves u the head ache IMH2GO

[Fredoops]

RENAULTSPORT MEGANE RS250 CUP

8:07 N-ring laptime.

1/2 minute faster than GTi.... 2 secs fater than a Merc C63 AMG
Nuff said.

[ChaosMaster]

If you do get a Golf though, beware the DSG, it's plagued with problems. I know 3 people with VW all with the DSG and it's absolute rubbish. And the gear box isn't the only problem they have with it. Euro still can't match the Japs for reliability.

[Fredoops]

If you do get a Golf though, beware the DSG, it's plagued with problems. I know 3 people with VW all with the DSG and it's absolute rubbish. And the gear box isn't the only problem they have with it. Euro still can't match the Japs for reliability.

Honda auto tranny *Cough*

[adis]

Bmw m3/toyota trd if you want
Luxury with balls

[MR_LATE]

But the megane isnt the nicest looking (prove me wrong please :))

[DreadAngel]

RENAULTSPORT MEGANE RS250 CUP

8:07 N-ring laptime.

1/2 minute faster than GTi.... 2 secs fater than a Merc C63 AMG
Nuff said.

That's a bit silly comparison...

Looks at the specs, tires and setup of the RS250 CUP then compare it to both the GTi and the C63 AMG =|

GTi is just a commuters hot hatch that won't mess up their hair or groceries, the C63 AMG is a scary thing that I doubt you'd track hard. Given you're going to the N-ring I doubt most of us can make it around without going off.

Compare it to the other hot/track special versions, you won't find that much of a difference.

[Fredoops]

That's a bit silly comparison...

Looks at the specs, tires and setup of the RS250 CUP then compare it to both the GTi and the C63 AMG =|

GTi is just a commuters hot hatch that won't mess up their hair or groceries, the C63 AMG is a scary thing that I doubt you'd track hard. Given you're going to the N-ring I doubt most of us can make it around without going off.

Compare it to the other hot/track special versions, you won't find that much of a difference.

The rs250 used on the n-ring is about the same as the one you pick up from the dealer. Australia don't get the non-cup chassis dude. All rs250s sold here are Cup chassis.... So its not a "special track version"....... Except the rubber, which I think the n-ring had Bridgestones and the AUDM gets Michelin pilot sport.

The times were done by professional drivers btw. I didn't use the c63 as a comparison but as a yard stick.

Btw if you read the local reviews around youd see it's just as comfortable as the Golf/Scricco.

Hell even the VW fans concede the frog kicks ass:
http://www.vwgolf.net.au/archive/index.php/t-3356.html

[aaronng]

Megane RS250 is one of the few cars that I would buy if I wanted a fun car and was willing to put up with the european reputation of reliability. I'd buy it over a Scirocco.

[ChaosMaster]

Megane RS250 is one of the few cars that I would buy if I wanted a fun car and was willing to put up with the european reputation of reliability. I'd buy it over a Scirocco.

There's European, then there's French. Surprisingly, there's a difference.

[Nathn]

I have been contemplating and looking at the gti's, wrx's and mazda 3 mps.. there fun and all but the euro is serving me well and I get to have a bit of fun here and there with the 6sp MT.

[Rudy]

I used to think the scirocco was cool, but it was meh in the flesh..its very small. I think they waited too long to bring it here.

[natnat]

If you do get a Golf though, beware the DSG, it's plagued with problems. I know 3 people with VW all with the DSG and it's absolute rubbish. And the gear box isn't the only problem they have with it. Euro still can't match the Japs for reliability.

DSG... mmm yes there have been issues with the 7 speed dry clutch DSG, found in lower Golf models.

the GTI / R use the old 6 speed wet clutch DSG that has been around for a while. the same one found in Audi S3. in stock form it is designed to handle up to 350nm.. but a lot of ppl are pushing it hard. i have not heard any major dramas with Mk6 owners in both wwatercooled and vwgolf.net forums.

this is currently the fastest Golf R in Australia, 300kw atw and 855nm of torque:

http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?6488-FRANKENSTEIN-S-MONSTER-THE-650HP-AWD-GOLF-Speedhunters-Feature-Article


and this is currently the fastest Golf R32... R36 actually, and his is DSG:

http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?7660-REVO-Stage-4-The-GTX3071R-BUILD/page74

but both of these guys have upgraded clutch pack and DSG tunes.

VW group is now the biggest car maker company in the world, no doubt you will hear more problems compared to other manufacturers, given the number of cars they make ;-) yet there are still months of waiting to get certain models with specific factory options.

[grifty]

Get a TRD Aurion lol

[MR_LATE]

trd aurion = .=

[xenonkuraz]

Sell the car or trade it in and get one which has a factory turbo, ie WRX, XR6, EVO!!

defeats the purpose of wanting to turbo a honda.

some people just wouldn't understand.

there's a difference in buying a car factory boosted, and buying a naturally aspirated car and boosting it.

the latter = win

[Fredoops]

defeats the purpose of wanting to turbo a honda.

some people just wouldn't understand.

there's a difference in buying a car factory boosted, and buying a naturally aspirated car and boosting it.

the latter = win

Not when you consider ownership.

Remember whatever you do to boos a NA car. The pre boosted can do better at the same cost.

[ChaosMaster]

Not when you consider ownership.

Remember whatever you do to boos a NA car. The pre boosted can do better at the same cost.

The same would apply in terms of tuning in general.

[xenonkuraz]

you still don't get it

it's not about having the fastest car, or the easiest/cheapest way to getting a boosted car..

its about being able to enjoy the rarity of a boosted VTEC-equipped vehicle, all the while having luxuries like sunroof, leather, creature comforts, great styling, etc.

Try getting a WRX with sunroof + leather + cruise control + CD stacker, etc.

[Fredoops]

you still don't get it

it's not about having the fastest car, or the easiest/cheapest way to getting a boosted car..

its about being able to enjoy the rarity of a boosted VTEC-equipped vehicle, all the while having luxuries like sunroof, leather, creature comforts, great styling, etc.

Try getting a WRX with sunroof + leather + cruise control + CD stacker, etc.

Why do you even need VTEC if you are boosting? It defeats the purpose of having Vtec altogether, FI would make Vtec engagement obsolete

Serious question, because the other honda turbo (K23A1 in the Acura RDX), actually removed all exhaust Vtec components, and intake side is not a true vtec operation either.

[natnat]

btw the OP did not even mention which Euro he has.. CU2 or CL9?

if it is a CL9, I would seriously get a BBK (Big Brake Kit) to complement the turbo kit. the stock CL9 brakes are tiny.

in the end, it all depends on how deep your pocket is to spend on engine mods along with suspension, bushing, brakes, clutch pack, ECU tune, proper intake, proper exhaust front to back, proper intercooler, wheels, tyres, etc... well that's how I look at modifying.

it also takes experience, knowledge, the right parts and the right workshop to do things right and achieve results.

its about being able to enjoy the rarity of a boosted VTEC-equipped vehicle, all the while having luxuries like sunroof, leather, creature comforts, great styling, etc... a BMW M3 has it all, for $150k ;p

[xenonkuraz]

btw the OP did not even mention which Euro he has.. CU2 or CL9?

if it is a CL9, I would seriously get a BBK (Big Brake Kit) to complement the turbo kit. the stock CL9 brakes are tiny.

in the end, it all depends on how deep your pocket is to spend on engine mods along with suspension, bushing, brakes, clutch pack, ECU tune, proper intake, proper exhaust front to back, proper intercooler, wheels, tyres, etc... well that's how I look at modifying.

it also takes experience, knowledge, the right parts and the right workshop to do things right and achieve results.

its about being able to enjoy the rarity of a boosted VTEC-equipped vehicle, all the while having luxuries like sunroof, leather, creature comforts, great styling, etc... a BMW M3 has it all, for $150k ;p

VTEC bimmer? ;p


Why do you even need VTEC if you are boosting? It defeats the purpose of having Vtec altogether, FI would make Vtec engagement obsolete

Serious question, because the other honda turbo (K23A1 in the Acura RDX), actually removed all exhaust Vtec components, and intake side is not a true vtec operation either.

Comparatively, on my previous turbocharged integra with vtec disengaged my torque curve was noticeably lower for bottom to mid-range power. I wonder why?

VTEC would almost always engage after boost kicked in and I loved it.

However with my current setup there is no VTEC crossover as there are no supporting cam profiles.