ITB vs SC vs Turbo

[greek_rambos2k]

Hey guys i have been doing some reading between ITBs, SC and a turbo kit and i really cant decide. Anyone help? roughly what would each kit cost and powergains?

[DakDak]

Turbo will yield most gains then sc last is itb.

[trism]

So essentially what we are doing here is comparing potatoes, oranges and strawberries, and which one is the best.

Ie, its pointless. They're all different, achieve different things for different purposes.

[Riced_Civic]

y not get the ITB and use them with the turbo or SC

[DakDak]

y not get the ITB and use them with the turbo or SC

How does that work?

[ludecrs]

How does that work?

Like this:

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt29/s2krazy/gallery_9742_1356_1398113586467aee75f1faa.jpg

[ludecrs]

ITB's are just the throttle body, just individual for each cylinder stack.

[Riced_Civic]

^^^ what he said

[DreadAngel]

You mean NA v SC v Turbo no?

NA would mean mods like ITBs, Stroker Kit, Cams, etc

[greek_rambos2k]

basicaly i want to spend 4ish grand on a power upgrade. i was looking at first looking at toda ITBs then the greddy turbo kit and comptech supercharger and i really cant pick between. i use my s2k as a daily so i want power gains that can still be used in daily traffic and i have about 4grand ish to spend... can go a little more if i have to tho

[DakDak]

IF you go FI, there'd be alot of problems with S2k driveshafts with big power. All over the net. People get stronger aftermarket ones. I cant tell you what cause I dont really know but the info is there.

If you run like 8 psi you should be fine though. Maybe less. F20C are highly tuned from the factory with hi comp pistons, with FI you need low comp.

Also when you consider your upgrade, consider othe necessary upgrades to such as a HD clutch, ECU and tune. Installing a supercharger,turbo is simple as 'slapping' it on.
As I hear alot of tools say.

Think about how much power you want. Can your gb realistically handle that power? You may need to factor in a gearbox rebuilt with stronger parts.

-You will need good tyres to get that power on the ground.
-BRAKES, no point in going fast if you write yourself off in the first corner.

[DakDak]

ITB's are just the throttle body, just individual for each cylinder stack.

Wow. Baller.

[ericl33]

basicaly i want to spend 4ish grand on a power upgrade.

toda ITBs

greddy turbo kit

comptech supercharger
http://i.imgur.com/xgcBF.gif

[greek_rambos2k]

IF you go FI, there'd be alot of problems with S2k driveshafts with big power. All over the net. People get stronger aftermarket ones. I cant tell you what cause I dont really know but the info is there.

If you run like 8 psi you should be fine though. Maybe less. F20C are highly tuned from the factory with hi comp pistons, with FI you need low comp.

Also when you consider your upgrade, consider othe necessary upgrades to such as a HD clutch, ECU and tune. Installing a supercharger,turbo is simple as 'slapping' it on.
As I hear alot of tools say.

Think about how much power you want. Can your gb realistically handle that power? You may need to factor in a gearbox rebuilt with stronger parts.

-You will need good tyres to get that power on the ground.
-BRAKES, no point in going fast if you write yourself off in the first corner.

Well currently running ad08 tyres. 225 front and 255 rear so tyres are qute good. Also i have put better brake fluid in and ds2500 pads. Im getting a new exedy hd clutch soon as mine is slipping. I wanted around 300hp at the wheels. Ish

[duzy]

^^ LOL ericl33

Really stupid question to be honest. And 4k? you'd need to set your budget higher than that. Take note what DakDak posted before. And btw hows your rear diff? S2k rear diffs are known to be weak. Should set money aside for when it does blow. Also check your engine mounts.

First tell us what engine mods you have done to your s2k?
What I would do is go with turbo or supercharged. Get the kit, get an aftermarket ecu and get it tuned. You can run low boost on stock motor usually around 7-9psi? or something
Also depends on how good the tune is. Otherwise you'd be coming back to the tuner non stop regarding problems etc.

[greek_rambos2k]

which conversion is cheaper, turbo or sc? i would prefer a sc as i like smooth power over the turbo kicking in... if that makes sence. lol yeh i can spend more then 4 i just have 4 atm... lol. What would the build cost? my car mods so far include: "performance wise"

K&N replacement filter
cooling plate
HKS hi flow catback
hi flow cat 100cel (havent installed it yet tho)
eibach springs
js heat shield
torque damper
oz alegeritta rims 17x7.5 (225 tyre) and 17x8.5 (255 tyre)
yokohama ad08s
ds2500 brake pads

Yeah i know s2k difs arnt great. Mine is fine though atm. makes a little tiny bit of a noise but LSD works fine. I dont do burnouts or anything

[duzy]

I dont know much about turbo/supercharging f20c motors. If you're really serious maybe have a talk with some workshops that have done the work before, or other s2k owners who have done it. Look at some build threads and have a read through on what they have done.

Easiest way to achieve that 300hp is turbocharging. As for what kit is cheaper, gotta have a look around.
For that smooth power delivery a turbo kit would work great depending on what turbo you're running and how its tuned, you may have full boost kick in as early as 3-4k rpm for a more linear power curve. Same as a supercharger kit. I guess it all comes down to your decision, turbo or supercharged.

[dlai5552]

You can get a full turbo kit for like $7k+
but remember, you have to get it tuned as well, and also as someone mentioned before strong diff.

Why are you looking at more power anyways? What's your purpose?

[zhong]

In your case - the best option in my opinion is the S/C option.

Supercharging your vehicle can be done in your own garage over a weekend - most kits are BOLT ON. You will not NEED to think much about adding sophisticated fuel management, as most super charger kits come with RRFPR. These kits can be bought from the states for around 2-2.5k not incl. shipping give or take quality and completeness of the kit. Well when I was looking at this route anyway.

It'll be more suited to daily driving as it doesn't stress your motor too much if your on a 5psi pulley and you won't be breaking axles on a daily basis!

Oh, and you don't need to modify anything in the bay - so you can return it to stock if you decide to sell the kit for a turbo kit couple months later. :P

Peace.

[ericl33]

save more money

[ludecrs]

420whp.
Stock diff.
Stock axles.
Stock clutch.
No issues.

[Chulos2k]

I really dont understand why people are so negative to FI.. been boosted for over a year at around 250rkw, stock everything apart from clutch and my car takes a beating day in day out.

get a base SC kit if you want to make around 290-300whp.. can be done for 4-5k if you do the install yourself..

you shouldn't break a thing at that power level..

[RIHIA]

From what I have read the standard f20c can handle 14 psi... Done a bit of reading on s2ki and ppl are putting down over 400 hp atw... This would be insane to drive over stock :)

Check out the mase turbo kit for some inspiration !

Strengthening your drivetrain would be costly, like ludecrs said he was running stock gear and held up fine... If you upgrade what you think might break budget for 20k lol... Just repair as you go.

Turbo itttt

[butterfingers]

You can get a full turbo kit for like $7k+
but remember, you have to get it tuned as well, and also as someone mentioned before strong diff.

Why are you looking at more power anyways? What's your purpose?

smug self-satisfaction of owning and driving a 300 rwkw convertible

[sae]

The most common problem in Australia with our cars is that noone really knows how to tune them [oh and haltech costs an arm and a leg]. The same goes for basic n/a mods and FI tuning.

But yeah, out of all three ITB's seem so gangster. Not the best with Australia's weather; hot and cold every second day but if you go through with it i'm sure it'd have merits of its own.

Definitely +1 for being unique

[chauster]

Sell your s and get an Evo.

[simmy]

Turbo a d15

[ericl33]

the only thing wrong with this thread is the 4k budget.

[dlai5552]

The most common problem in Australia with our cars is that noone really knows how to tune them [oh and haltech costs an arm and a leg].

Have you ever gotten a tune from haltech. Coz you are quite wrong there.

[greek_rambos2k]

would you get much gains from an e85 conversion? (keeping it NA)

[XB-16-AX]

would you get much gains from an e85 conversion? (keeping it NA)

Yes.
Gains are normally 15-20kw more than your normal 98ron.

This will also depend on your supporting mods and tune.

Selected caltex supplies these but during winter they mix the ethanol blend to suit the winter season. (less ethanol ron)

Something to think about

[DakDak]

Yes.
Gains are normally 15-20kw more than your normal 98ron.

This will also depend on your supporting mods and tune.

Selected caltex supplies these but during winter they mix the ethanol blend to suit the winter season. (less ethanol ron)

Something to think about

There are gains with e85 on na but not 15+ like you mentooned. Tgats on fi cars. On na its more like 5kw peak with gains through rev range.

[Jccck]

Have you ever gotten a tune from haltech. Coz you are quite wrong there.

Based on the prices of their Computers alone, i'll happily say that they're bloody expensive.

[XB-16-AX]

There are gains with e85 on na but not 15+ like you mentooned. Tgats on fi cars. On na its more like 5kw peak with gains through rev range.

Maybe but check out an example that BYP tuned on that yellow DC2R with the K20/24 combo.

He has a tune of 98ron vs e85 and it was like approx 15-20kw difference (NA).

[DakDak]

I think I know what graph ur.talking abput. There are mid range gains of.about.20kw but peak was only about 5 ish.

[Wru]

If you're sticking NA you won't get much out of your ITB's without atleast all other supporting bolt ons and preferably some head work done as a starter.

You'll need an airbox made up for them to or be destroyed by the first cop to look under the bonnet. Also good idea to have as you can run your ITB's but still have a single big filter for all the air to come through, do not run them unfiltered or you'll **** your shit eventually.

Also you will need an aftermarket computer to run them.

[AusS2000]

Ethanol has lower calorific content than petrol so that's a negative. On the positive side it has a higher octane (resistance to pre-ignition) so you can run more timing and compression. But compression is a physical change to the engine so requires a rebuild and I don't see how timing alone with give you gains over petrol.

So if you want NA ethanol be prepared for some engine work. At least shaving the head.

[AusS2000]

BTW, when you read through this thread weight posters opinions by what level of experience they have personally had. I note one poster suggested a turbo will kill your gearbox, diff and driveshafts yet drives a DC5 type R. Not saying he hasn't built an FI S2000 but still...

FI doesn't kill your gearbox, diff or driveshafts, stupidity kills them. FI just gives you the tools to do it quicker. Ask me how I know?

[senna]

Ethanol has lower calorific content than petrol so that's a negative. On the positive side it has a higher octane (resistance to pre-ignition) so you can run more timing and compression. But compression is a physical change to the engine so requires a rebuild and I don't see how timing alone with give you gains over petrol.

So if you want NA ethanol be prepared for some engine work. At least shaving the head.

This is good info...

Timing alone can gain power IF the engine combo has been running retarded timing due to using fuel with a low octane rating. Although if this is the case someone has wasted their time...

E85 can provide good gains on N/A motors, however they need to be high comp ratio (higher than stock Honda comp) to see the gains.

F/I motors work so well on E85 due to their Effective compression. An example is my turbo falcon, normal comp is 8.8:1 but with 19psi peak boost it is running 20.2:1 comp.

Use this calculator if you are interested: http://www.dragsource.com/index.php?navselect=calculators&calctoview=3

[XB-16-AX]

I think I know what graph ur.talking abput. There are mid range gains of.about.20kw but peak was only about 5 ish.

For mid range u mentioned then yes.

But overall power gains then its 15-20kw gains :)

[Snoop_gee]

tested on a private road.
Supercharger - FTW!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G0jhL0ItlU

[unl3a5h]

FI just gives you the tools to do it quicker. Ask me how I know?

how do you know? :P

[AusS2000]

You had to ask didn't you!

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/799804-diff-destruction/page__hl__diff+destruction

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/704000-broke-an-axle/page__hl__axle+aus

[gbpracing]

Wow. Baller.
With 4K you wont get a hell of a lot.... basic power upgrades.. every change has a knock on effect as already mentioned by Dakbak.
Read as many forums as you can, learn from these, look at other engine builds ask more questions. Sort out the bull shit from the facts.
Some guys love turbo some are more purist and love the high reving all motor builds as I do. I have driven them all, from Porsche GT2's GT3, Honda S2000 turbo with 420whp to All motor race engines of every make. Each gives you a different sensation when driving hard.
Take your time to decide and do it once dont cut corners and do things on the cheap because it will end up costing you way more...

[AusS2000]

some are more purist

Or wimps. ;)

[greek_rambos2k]

noooo dont talk about diffs. mine is making noises :( but it has been for a yr and my LSD still works so meh

[AusS2000]

If I were you I'd pick up jowjeh's dud diff and have it sorted before yours blows.

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/948020-s2k-dud-diff/

[connorling]

Well currently running ad08 tyres. 225 front and 255 rear so tyres are qute good. Also i have put better brake fluid in and ds2500 pads. Im getting a new exedy hd clutch soon as mine is slipping. I wanted around 300hp at the wheels. Ish

let me know where and what i can get to achieve 300 rwhp safely with 4k budget, i would like that much power for that little money. Thanks

LOL

[stndrd]

If you want to make 300hp, put nos on it

[ludecrs]

Greddy turbo kit. DIY install. $4k w/pre tuned ecu.

[greek_rambos2k]

hmmm im thinking of going for the greddy kit. i do like it

[s2kjn]

Maybe have a good thorough read of this if you still want to go with the Greddy kit, not to mention the # of greddy kit owners that do change onto more expensive & powerful kits out there. I hate to sound like one of those ppl who talk crap coz I don't own one, but I have been doing extensive research on kits, particularly on RHD ones, and have come down to two. Anyways, each to their own, here's some reading that should put u to sleep :)

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/647911-the-ultimate-greddy-turbo-kit-thread/

[greek_rambos2k]

thanks for the link s2kjn, interesting read..

[s2kjn]

So u still gna go for the Greddy kit?

[greek_rambos2k]

yeah i think i might...

[VeYzZii]

SC ftw

[AusS2000]

SC ftw

A rational and well thought out argument. :rolleyes:

[barefootbonzai]

A rationale and well thought out argument. :rolleyes:
lmao!

[jooboo]

SC ftw

is this like how 9" +22 wheels wont fit our cars? lol

[VeYzZii]

is this like how 9" +22 wheels wont fit our cars? lol

Spot on. Your learning mate.

[VeYzZii]

A rational and well thought out argument. :rolleyes:

LOL nothing is rational or well thought out at 2am.

[alessioo]

Check out Steve from msc performance turbo built s2000.
When I was at his shop the other day he just finished supercharging a s2.

Best guy to speak too

Tuned my car also and did a great job

[AusS2000]

Yeah, what could be better than talking to a guy who has built both an SC'd and turbocharged S2000!

[thebob]

Yeah, what could be better than talking to a guy who has built both an SC'd and turbocharged S2000!

Taking advice from someone on the internet that has read about it and now knows.

[ludecrs]

Taking advice from someone on the internet that has read about it and now knows.

ROFL


Yeah, what could be better than talking to a guy who has built both an SC'd and turbocharged S2000!

ROFLs

[alessioo]

Lol.
Nar is all seriousness speak to Steve.
He will show u the cars and the setups and give u the best info in regards to making ur choice.

Information is power

[barefootbonzai]

Taking advice from someone on the internet that has read about it and now knows.

hahaha gold! THEN... do nothing cause you just wanted to post because it was a cool idea but then realized your too cheap to actually really do anything.

[ludecrs]

Lol.
Information is power

Do you work in IT?

[tripleuse]

basicaly i want to spend 4ish grand on a power upgrade. i was looking at first looking at toda ITBs then the greddy turbo kit and comptech supercharger and i really cant pick between. i use my s2k as a daily so i want power gains that can still be used in daily traffic and i have about 4grand ish to spend... can go a little more if i have to tho

4k wont get u far.

[greek_rambos2k]

yeah after reading that 4grand wont get me far ill just put more money in. it will just take me longer to get there lol

[AusS2000]

Stop wasting it on wings and valve covers. ;)

[sae]

^hahahhahah.

[tripleuse]

420whp.
Stock diff.
Stock axles.
Stock clutch.
No issues.


wasnt ur car a "hard parker"... someone had to say it.

[AusS2000]

Ooo, them's fighting words!

[greek_rambos2k]

lmao iv always wanted a wing though. its cool i dont mind spending more it just means i cant do it within the next 3 months lol ill do it end of the year instead.

[ludecrs]

Ooo, them's fighting words!

Werd.


wasnt ur car a "hard parker"... someone had to say it.

Get back to me when you have a car actually worth reading about.






LOL j/k - I hate integras.

[tripleuse]

Get back to me when you have a car actually worth reading about.
LOL j/k - I hate integras.

ill spend tens of thousands on my cars performance and track it





LOL j/k im ludecrs

[sae]

^grow up, lets keep on topic

[Simmoyo]

Check out Steve from msc performance turbo built s2000.
When I was at his shop the other day he just finished supercharging a s2.

Best guy to speak too

Tuned my car also and did a great job



That's my chariot hahaha, with Brad's Novi 1500 SC.

Steve is the man! He'll look after you well.

He isn't finished with my car yet but when he is I'll do a write up

[Chulos2k]

hurry up Simmoyo I want to see your numbers :)

[Simmoyo]

hurry up Simmoyo I want to see your numbers :)

I'll be rebuilding my engine in a year so I'm not boosting it hard until then.

BUT with:

- 1600cc ID Injectors
- biggest fuel pump you can get
- dual 2.5" remote controlled butterfly valve exhaust
- Hatlech Platinum Pro ECU
- wider throttle body

@ only 10psi

Steve got 275kw at the wheels without even trying hard!!

14psi will be over 300rwkw but probably not by much.


What is the best oil I should run with this setup? My car chewed oil before the SC, year 2000 100k kms

[Chulos2k]

Just use a quality FS oil something in 5w40 or 10w40. Ive been using Nulon 10w40 and haven't had any problems..

BTW congrats, awesome numbers.. you should hit 300rkw at 14 psi no problems!!

You have to let me ride shotgun in your beast, I want to see if it's worth upgrading my blower or I should just go a different route..

250rkw is boring in this car lol..

[Simmoyo]

Just use a quality FS oil something in 5w40 or 10w40. Ive been using Nulon 10w40 and haven't had any problems..

BTW congrats, awesome numbers.. you should hit 300rkw at 14 psi no problems!!

You have to let me ride shotgun in your beast, I want to see if it's worth upgrading my blower or I should just go a different route..

250rkw is boring in this car lol..

Haha thanks man, you can take it for a spin

[xenonkuraz]

Just use a quality FS oil something in 5w40 or 10w40. Ive been using Nulon 10w40 and haven't had any problems..

I switch between 5w40 and 10w40 depending on the weather and oil changes at normal intervals is still fine

[NeedVtec]

snip

Reality Check: Delivered.

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j480/tbmindustrys2/Terry-Crews-repped-6bb61e3b7bce0931da574d19d1d82c88-23.gif

[AusS2000]

http://s2000.byteserve.com.au/images/popcorn.gif

I can't tell you how refreshing it is to be neither a participant nor a mod and getting a ringside seat for the ensuing shit storm.

[mocchi]

:popcorn:

I can't tell you how refreshing it is to be neither a participant nor a mod and getting a ringside seat for the ensuing shit storm.

mate, you have innate ability as a spammer

[AusS2000]

LOL, yeah I'm the problem in this thread. ;)

[senna]

LOL, so much anger from ludecrs....

Its tru though, if you want to race your car - build a race car! Don't destroy a perfectly good street car and always have a compromise....

[AusS2000]

I think it's a bit simpler than that. Do what you want to do. And don't be threatened by someone who does something different. It's all a journey, we're all learning along the way. Live and let live I say.

Although I do like the hard parker comment. ;)

[senna]

I think it's a bit simpler than that. Do what you want to do. And don't be threatened by someone who does something different. It's all a journey, we're all learning along the way. Live and let live I say.

Although I do like the hard parker comment. ;)

Pretty much like life really...

[GSi_PSi]

I used to think like ludacris....



then i went to the track.

[vyets]

I like it in and around my mouth

[mocchi]

inb4 this is considered as personal attack to another user.

here we go again boise

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar11984_21.gif

[Chulos2k]

lmao @ reply

if you hate the forum so much just stay away :) noones begging for you to be here.

oh sorry you have a nsx and everyone else's car is a tacky piece of shit, take your own advice. Noone gives a ****

Amen!!

[aozora]

TypeS said it perfectly.

You can't have a go at somebody with "circle of wank" when you have a magazine cover of your own car as a dp.

You (well your tuner really) chased hp, track "wankers" chase seconds - and you're seemingly superior how?
Do whatever the **** you want. Just don't be an asshole about it.

[Chulos2k]

And to add to this, I really don't understand why you feel the need to make reference to someone's race which has little to do with anything really.. We are all enthusiasts here regardless of colour, sex, age whatever..

[AusS2000]

I really don't understand why you feel the need to make reference to someone's race

I think he was just trying to upset as many people and break as many rules in one thread as possible. If I were mod I'd be dusting off the ban hammer.

[senna]

Your hammer gets dust on it?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/conservativelife/flaming-ban-hammer.jpg

[AusS2000]

Only from all the carnage it creates.

[senna]

Niiiice

[NeedVtec]

that pedalstool

http://i56.tinypic.com/2iuz6vl.jpg


i dont even know anymore.

[barefootbonzai]

lmao! Some entertaining stuff right here!

[GSi_PSi]

nose up in the sky


suk me off at the next station please

[sae]

lmao @ reply

if you hate the forum so much just stay away :) noones begging for you to be here.

oh sorry you have a nsx and everyone else's car is a tacky piece of shit, take your own advice. Noone gives a ****

lol, but compared to a nsx all other cars are shitty ;)

[EKVTIR-T]

lol, but compared to a nsx all other cars are shitty ;)
I felt this perspective from dc2r owners also

[GSi_PSi]

lol, but compared to a nsx all other cars are shitty ;)


just cause u drive an nsx you dont have too look at everyone else and there cars asif they were gum stuck to the bottom of ur shoe
especially if its only a 30k nsx in baby poo green and auto


i know the owner of this nsx and hes the most down to earth person,
came up to me and complimented me on my old shit box crx...


http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318165_10150758550364122_199893579121_11373526_752 772275_n.jpg

[sae]

lol firstly, i don't own a nsx, only expressing my admiration for them. Secondly, you really have to learn to catch onto sarcasm!

[jooboo]

golden! lol

man thats a pimp ass nsx

[EKVTIR-T]

Looks like an abortion

[senna]

That photo isn't very flattering at all, however in the flesh it is very nice and personally i don't think it looks gawdy at all

Hard to convey with that pic though

[mocchi]

mate..

eg with jdm d15b shits all over anything

[NeedVtec]

mate..

eg with jdm d15b shits all over anything

i agry.

[GSi_PSi]

Looks like an abortion

m8 get fkd


who would of thought ? people actually drive there cars !



http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422152_317815958267434_157468440968854_792534_5415 61791_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/477120_428817447128757_402505589759943_1662506_404 738019_o.jpg

[greek_rambos2k]

it looks really big in that photo but in person they arnt haha

[mocchi]

it looks really big in that photo but in person they arnt haha

maybe cos he has small head not big like some ppl.

[FAITHLESS]

Wow. All respect lost for ludecris.
Some valid points but way too bitter.

[curtis265]

it looks really big in that photo but in person they arnt haha

i was thinking that too!

looks like a giant car

[Zilli]

Keep the rubbish out of here please...

[tamay_s2k]

hating on the moderator for this part of the forum??
a tad immature...

just cause u drive an nsx you dont have too look at everyone else and there cars asif they were gum stuck to the bottom of ur shoe
especially if its only a 30k nsx in baby poo green and auto


i know the owner of this nsx and hes the most down to earth person,
came up to me and complimented me on my old shit box crx...


http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318165_10150758550364122_199893579121_11373526_752 772275_n.jpg

[AusS2000]

hating on the moderator for this part of the forum??
a tad immature...

Just to set a few points straight, he ain't a moderator anymore, and HE STARTED IT! < said in an extremely childish voice ;)

[greek_rambos2k]

hey guys where is msc. i might go visit n fins more info on sc vs turbo. also need to get my clutch installed so if anyone knows a good cheap mechanic in melb hit me with details

[sae]

are women always this indecisive?

[greek_rambos2k]

well 9 grand is a large investment. im sure anyone would want to find out as much as possible before making a decision.

[Simmoyo]

hey guys where is msc. i might go visit n fins more info on sc vs turbo. also need to get my clutch installed so if anyone knows a good cheap mechanic in melb hit me with details

MSC Performance

43 Radford Road
Reservoir VIC 3073
(03) 9469 5282

Talk to Steve, he's the man!

[greek_rambos2k]

thanks simmoyo!

[AusS2000]

I've installed an SC with basic fuel management, upgraded to E-manage, then to AEM. Then I upgraded to turbo.

If you have any questions feel free to ask. No charge.

[Simmoyo]

Ask him to give you a ride in his turbo S2k, it's the fastest thing I've ever been in and he's only at 12psi. He'll be at 24psi when he's done!

He's done so much work on his engine it doesn't even sound like a honda

[AusS2000]

Oh, and if you're going FI make sure you consider it when you do your clutch.

[tamay_s2k]

Ask him to give you a ride in his turbo S2k, it's the fastest thing I've ever been in and he's only at 12psi. He'll be at 24psi when he's done!

He's done so much work on his engine it doesn't even sound like a honda
yea his s2k turbo is insane, my family friend at 'Powerlogic racing' built that car for him and end of this year mines going in for similar treatment =D

[Simmoyo]

yea his s2k turbo is insane, my family friend at 'Powerlogic racing' built that car for him and end of this year mines going in for similar treatment =D

That would cost so much.... let us know how it goes!

[tamay_s2k]

yea mines costing me a lot :/. my builds at around 9k excluding the r200 conversion i will be doing. will begin a build thread soon once i really get more parts in

[sae]

^looking forward to reading the build thread. 9k isn't all too bad considering the fun you'll gain knowing you can launch the car without breaking the diff, killing v8's on the track, for a solid reliable car [considered its tuned properly and taken care of] it'll last you years. Do it once, do it right, pay the price.

[Benson]

We recently installed a Science of Speed kit onto a S2000. Its a nice kit and makes good power from such a simple kit. Let me know if you guys want to see the dyno graph

[ducbui91]

I've installed an SC with basic fuel management, upgraded to E-manage, then to AEM. Then I upgraded to turbo.

If you have any questions feel free to ask. No charge.

how much did it cost you all up to turbo charge your s2k

[AusS2000]

Did you want me to put a value on life experience and grazed knuckles?

Priceless!

[curtis265]

how much did it cost you all up to turbo charge your s2k

never ask this question as it will give you unrealistic expectations

[AusS2000]

Beat ya!

[curtis265]

fak you're too quick

[AusS2000]

Seriously, if you have to pay to get it done, ask the guys you're going to be giving your money to.

[greek_rambos2k]

Hey guys i went and checked out MSC and met steve. Great guy. i ended up taking my car there and getting my clutch, brake pads, and spacers installed and he looked after me. thanks for the contact :)