[CU2][CL9] Redline 5w30 from Amazon

[EuroGraphite]

Important bits:
1. Group 5 Fully synthetic oil from Redline. Other synthetics typically use Group 3 or 4 basestock.
2. 5w30 SAE - Recommended viscosity for Accord Euro in Australian conditions
3. ZDDP additives for minimising wear of engine components
4. At $130 (+$8 shipping) for 12 quarts (approx 11 Litres), this is insanely cheap!! This works out to be around $12per litre. For comparison, 5 litres of Mobil 1 (5w30) will cost about $85 from supercheapauto. The Mobil 1, using Group 3 basestock, works out to be $17 per litre.

Link http://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-5W30-Synthetic-Oil/dp/B000T9TLZM/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1335190475&sr=1-1

Anyways, as the other thread became slightly heated and was shut down, I hope this one can avoid the same fate! I bought 24 quarts for my euro, but then bought another lot for my missus' car. Using this oil will cost about $15-20 more per oil change but is much much much better than the mineral oil normally used. Motor oil do have a shelf life (typically 4-5 years max for synthetics) so keep that in mind if you are planning to stockpile!

I just completed my 1000km checkup and requested the servicing dept to change the oil and oil filter. Even at this stage, you can 'feel' the improved smoothness and response. Note that this oil is overkill for our cars, but our engines WILL benefit from it. At the current prices, its money well spent imho.... Short of doing an oil analysis and dyno run, I can't verify it, so its just my opinion.

hth...

[Rudy]

Thanks for reviving this and great summary. Just received my 12 quarts in the mail the other day..very fast turnaround! And just a reminder for people wanting to browse other oils on amazon, this deal is just for the Redline mentioned above as they have a pricing error so shipping is $8 (for every 12 bottles) to Aus. Any other oils will have the usual costly shipping.

[roony]

Group V? Anyone know how this woukd hold up on the track?

I remember someone saying before that group v oils will not last as long as group IV oil in terms of longer change intervals?

[Fredoops]

Group V? Anyone know how this woukd hold up on the track?

I remember someone saying before that group v oils will not last as long as group IV oil in terms of longer change intervals?

http://www.motor-oil-engineers.com/Motor%20Oil%20Engineers%20PDF.pdf

^^ that might help

or this thread from the good old bitog.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1249719

[EuroGraphite]

http://www.motor-oil-engineers.com/Motor%20Oil%20Engineers%20PDF.pdf

^^ that might help

or this thread from the good old bitog.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1249719

Thanks for the links, especially the first one. Great read, very comprehensive.

For those interested, here are a couple of really good web pages on oil certifications (http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible_amsoilFAQ.html) and general info on oils (http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html).

[roony]

http://www.motor-oil-engineers.com/Motor%20Oil%20Engineers%20PDF.pdf

^^ that might help



Ill have to print that lol, and I know the perfect time to read it in one go

[Fredoops]

Ill have to print that lol, and I know the perfect time to read it in one go
If you meaning reading it while number 2 then you must be getting diarrhea :-D
its 120 pages

[roony]

If you meaning reading it while number 2 then you must be getting diarrhea :-D
its 120 pages

Hahaha. Well ill b going overseas soon and ill have at least 9-13 hours transit time. Now I have something useful to do lol.

[roony]

Just reading more into it, this redline has the same HTHS of 3.8 to the mobil 1 0w-40 (but redline 5w 30 is a bit thicker than the mobile one esp at higher operating temps). So Given that the redline could be had cheaper than buying mobil1 here locally, its an easy choice. Ill be ordering this soon.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2001169&page=1

http://205.243.146.146/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2362943

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2446599

[Fredoops]

^^ so it's easier flowing while being thicker at higher operating temp...

It's a no brainer is it.

[tron07]

I think its too early at 1000km to use full syn oils.

[aaronng]

I bought this a few months ago from Amazon. Was good.

[Datuk]

Will give Redline a try for sure!!

[Fredoops]

I just ordered 12 quarts.

Next is to find the $$$ for 12 qrts of their d4 tranny fluid.

[roony]

how long is expected shipping?

[Fredoops]

how long is expected shipping?
20 days.

[ryaan]

got mine in just over a week ! :)

[Rudy]

Yep i also got mine in 6-7 days.

[EuroGraphite]

My first batch was also delivered in about a week. This time round, its estimating 3 weeks. Am guessing they saw how much it costs to ship via expedited DHL?!

The 2nd batch is still 'custom clearance delay'...still in the u.s. bugger.

[ryaan]

when was your first batch? i got mine like last week and it still took a week

[EuroGraphite]

First batch was about 3wks ago. The 2nd was ordered 5 days ago.

I just sent an email to Amazon asking them to check up on it...not really fussed as I still have a few in the coat closet...lol.

[Fredoops]

... Just ordered 12 qrts of redline d4 auto tranny fluid
$200 bucks, works out to be Approx $17.50 per liter

It's only 10% more than atf-z1 from te dealer.

Will see how I go.

[Fredoops]

... Just ordered 12 qrts of redline d4 auto tranny fluid
$200 bucks, works out to be Approx $17.50 per liter

It's only 10% more than atf-z1 from te dealer.

Will see how I go.

Update....

All my fluids are stuck in US customs... For the last 3 days....

Parcel status: customs delay... In new jersey.

[sensei_]

Anyone in perth want to share an order with me? I dont have room for 11L of that stuff.

[EuroGraphite]

Update....

All my fluids are stuck in US customs... For the last 3 days....

Parcel status: customs delay... In new jersey.

is it through i-parcel?

[Rudy]

Maybe with the recent mass ordering from ozhonda members, US customs suspects a drug ring and are having the bottles tested at an FBI lab. But it all seriousness, hope it clears soon man.

[Fredoops]

is it through i-parcel?
Yep, I parcel it is.

[EuroGraphite]

Yep, I parcel it is.

Mine is in the same situation, except its stuck in carlstad. The amazon helpdesk replied to my email, saying its normal and will be delivered as per the schedule. We shall see!

In any case, mine was just updated to say it has received some info from the shipper electronically. This iparcel mob is significantly slower than the DHL service used last time. I am guessing these guys would be a lot cheaper too. Not going to worry about it too much, as i paid through paypal and amazon tends to be pretty good customer service wise.

[Fredoops]

Maybe with the recent mass ordering from ozhonda members, US customs suspects a drug ring and are having the bottles tested at an FBI lab. But it all seriousness, hope it clears soon man.

You are actually correct:

"your shipment had been flagged for review of contents before export"

Looks like FBI is giving my shipment the airport security pat down.

[opilot87]

Just ordered 24 quarts. Think I worked it out to be under $60 an oil change. Bargain

Ollie

[Fredoops]

looks up i-Parcel... they seems to be a nightmare.

... great.

[Nuggety Nugget]

I just ordered 12 quarts. I've heard nothing but good things about this oil. Hopefully it gets rid of the vibration and roughness I'm experiencing. I'm currently using Motul 8100 and it was good to begin with, but after about just 1,000kms the car feels a bit rough again. There have been a number of people complaining about Motul 8100 breaking down too quickly and I'm beginning to think they're right. Please Redline, make my engine smooth!!

[sensei_]

anyone with experiences with a Purolator PureONE Oil Filter or Bosch Premium FILTECH Oil Filter (apparently made in the usa). im considering buying a couple to go with the 12 quarts so that i can have two oil changes

[Fredoops]

Sounds like I may never get my shipment....

This is the email I got between Iparel amazon manager and their foreman down at the warehouse.


Will,
*
Can you confirm that*XXXXXXXXXXXX is the correct tracking numkber?* It does not appear in our system, neither is it on hold.
*
*
David
*
*


*
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Amazon Group <amazongroup@i-parcel.com> wrote:
Dave, can you please check the above Amazon shipment.

System seems to show me both:

1. On hold since the beginning of the week
2. Never received by us from Amazon

Can you advise?

Thx
WILL



--
David Archibald
Compliance Manager
i-parcel
310 Paterson Plank Road
Carlstadt NJ 07072
Phone: 201-549-1533
Cell: 201-744-7518
Fax:* 201-549-1599
*

[10KRPM]

sounds like either the tracking label has been damaged or missing OR iparcel have scanned the wrong number.

Either way...someone has to physically check that its there.

[opilot87]

My 24 quarts arrived today. Ordered midnight on Wednesday and got here Monday, and that's to Perth. Not bad hey Fredroops ;)

Ollie

[Fredoops]

My 24 quarts arrived today. Ordered midnight on Wednesday and got here Monday, and that's to Perth. Not bad hey Fredroops ;)

Ollie
Up yours lol mine are now in LA waiting for a plane!!!!

[ChaosMaster]

Redline make Brake Fluid as well? Although I highly doubt I need DOT5 for road use. Some good DOT3 would do the trick.

[roony]

Honda brake fluid is DOT4

[aaronng]

Redline make Brake Fluid as well? Although I highly doubt I need DOT5 for road use. Some good DOT3 would do the trick.

Just use DOT4 as you need to use an equivalent or higher rated fluid. DOT5 is incompatible with other fluids. DoOT5.1 is compatible but it tends to absorb water moisture very quickly, not much point on a car driven on the street.

[ChaosMaster]

Ah, alright. I'm gonna give my brakes a flush this weekend. You guys have any recommendations and where to get?

[sensei_]

My 24 quarts arrived today. Ordered midnight on Wednesday and got here Monday, and that's to Perth. Not bad hey Fredroops ;)

Ollie

standard shipping? or express?

[opilot87]

standard shipping? or express?

Just the cheapest standard shipping for far less than it should be!

[sensei_]

mine is coming up as ~$8 for 12 bottles

[aaronng]

Ah, alright. I'm gonna give my brakes a flush this weekend. You guys have any recommendations and where to get?

Honda brake fluid is DOT4 and guaranteed to be compatible with the seals. Otherwise, I have used Castrol Super Response DOT4 as well in my Euro. But mine is a 2004, so it is still too soon to tell if I have damaged the seals.

[sensei_]

My shipment is stuck in NJ pending customs clearance.

ETA: 25/5/12

[Fredoops]

My shipment is stuck in NJ pending customs clearance.

ETA: 25/5/12

that means its actually never left Amazon warehouse.... and that the shipping company is also waiting for the MDS to approve export.

[sensei_]

thanks for that. first time ordering from amazon.

by the way what does MDS stand for?

[Fredoops]

material data sheet or something

to see if it goes BOOM! during flight.

[sensei_]

oh that. ive known it to be MSDS = material safety data sheet (my dad was in chemicals industry before)

[Fredoops]

oh that. ive known it to be MSDS = material safety data sheet (my dad was in chemicals industry before)

yeah that thing.

[I CU2]

Is 5W30 a bit thin for the Euro?

[ChaosMaster]

Is 5W30 a bit thin for the Euro?

If you look in the manual (at least for the CL9), it's the recommended thickness. Of course, it'll take thicker oils, which the service centre will use anyway because their cheaper but nothing wrong with 5w-30.

[roony]

Is 5W30 a bit thin for the Euro?

have a read of this http://www.upmpg.com/tech_articles/motoroil_viscosity/

[Nuggety Nugget]

Group V (5) based synthetics are usually not compatible with petroleum or petroleum fuels and have poor seal swell. These are used for air compressors, hydraulics, etc. It's the Group IV (4) PAO based synthetics that make the best motor oils. They are compatible with petroleum based oils and fuels plus they have better seal swell than petroleum. Typically PAO based motor oils use no Viscosity Additives yet pass the multi-grade viscosity requirements as a straight weight! This makes them ideal under a greater temperature range. One advantage of not having to employ Viscosity Improving additives is having a more pure undiluted lubricant that can be loaded with more longevity and performance additives to keep the oil cleaner longer with better mileage/horsepower.


Isn't Redline a Group V oil?

[sensei_]

Group V (5) based synthetics are usually not compatible with petroleum or petroleum fuels and have poor seal swell. These are used for air compressors, hydraulics, etc. It's the Group IV (4) PAO based synthetics that make the best motor oils. They are compatible with petroleum based oils and fuels plus they have better seal swell than petroleum. Typically PAO based motor oils use no Viscosity Additives yet pass the multi-grade viscosity requirements as a straight weight! This makes them ideal under a greater temperature range. One advantage of not having to employ Viscosity Improving additives is having a more pure undiluted lubricant that can be loaded with more longevity and performance additives to keep the oil cleaner longer with better mileage/horsepower.


Isn't Redline a Group V oil?

yes the redline should be a group V oil. as for its compatibility with our cars id be willing to listen to anyone else who has had experiences.

[EuroGraphite]

By itself, that may well be the case. However, just because the oil use Group 5 basestocks doesn't mean it won't have additives and other basestock to provide the desired performance characteristics. This oil has been used in the u.s. market for many years with great results. You only need to have a look at forums such as http://www.bobistheoilguy.com to gauge its performance.

This Redline oil far exceeds what we need on a day-to-day basis. The stock honda euro engine is unlikely to stress the oil, especially with the recommended oil drain intervals. Unless your engine is super funky (supercharged, turbo charged, super cams, etc) this oil will be perfectly suitable.

[Fredoops]

My redline d4 auto tranny fluid just arrived.




Group V (5) based synthetics are usually not compatible with petroleum or petroleum fuels and have poor seal swell. These are used for air compressors, hydraulics, etc. It's the Group IV (4) PAO based synthetics that make the best motor oils. They are compatible with petroleum based oils and fuels plus they have better seal swell than petroleum. Typically PAO based motor oils use no Viscosity Additives yet pass the multi-grade viscosity requirements as a straight weight! This makes them ideal under a greater temperature range. One advantage of not having to employ Viscosity Improving additives is having a more pure undiluted lubricant that can be loaded with more longevity and performance additives to keep the oil cleaner longer with better mileage/horsepower.


Isn't Redline a Group V oil?
That statement is misleading. Group 5 means any fluid that not group 1/2/3/4 as such... It could be *anything* so it's a pretty big stretch to say that ALL group 5 causes burns/leaks an shit.

[sensei_]

mine is showing up as delayed.... hasnt changed status since day one.

[Fredoops]

mine is showing up as delayed.... hasnt changed status since day one.

How many days?

First ask amazon.... If u used iparcel, chances are the thig is still
In amazon warehouse....

[sensei_]

since 9/5/12. so not that many days esp once exclude weekends.

yes ive used iparcel. im not worried about amazon taking my money and running with it. but it is my first time shopping with amazon hence the anxious wait.

[Fredoops]

since 9/5/12. so not that many days esp once exclude weekends.

yes ive used iparcel. im not worried about amazon taking my money and running with it. but it is my first time shopping with amazon hence the anxious wait.

from my experience I-Parcel only uses offpeak shipping, so your package may stay in the warehouse for over a week before it's even moved.

[Nuggety Nugget]

I placed my order 04/05/12, cleared Customs 08/05/12, arrived in Australia 11/05/12 (Friday), delivered today.

I can't believe I got it delivered from the U.S for $8! Can't wait for my next service in 3,000kms, my engine is so rough and noisey atm.

[peetah]

I ended up ordering 3 boxes, 1 in one order and 2 in another.

1 box shipped via i-parcel, the 2 box order shipped via UPS. Below is the tracking history if anyone is interested.

UPS Order:
Date Time Location Event Details
April 16, 2012 02:13:00 PM Bonnyrigg AU Delivered
April 16, 2012 12:09:00 AM Botany AU Departure Scan
April 15, 2012 05:42:00 PM Botany AU Arrival Scan
April 15, 2012 05:36:00 PM Botany AU Arrived at destination country
April 14, 2012 02:32:00 PM Botany AU Arrival Scan
April 13, 2012 04:23:00 PM Botany AU Initiated customs clearance process
April 13, 2012 04:23:00 PM Botany AU Completed customs clearance process
April 13, 2012 04:23:00 PM Botany AU Initiated customs clearance process
April 13, 2012 04:23:00 PM Botany AU Completed customs clearance process
April 13, 2012 08:33:00 AM Honolulu HI US Departure Scan
April 13, 2012 06:53:00 AM Honolulu HI US Arrival Scan
April 13, 2012 03:48:00 AM Louisville KY US Departure Scan
April 13, 2012 12:38:00 AM Louisville KY US Arrival Scan
April 13, 2012 12:19:00 AM Louisville KY US Shipment received by carrier
April 12, 2012 03:02:20 PM Plainfield IN US Shipment has left seller facility and is in transit

i-Parcel order
April 19, 2012 09:41:11 AM Mosman Post Shop AU Delivered
April 19, 2012 04:07:58 AM AU Out for delivery
April 18, 2012 08:20:06 PM AU Transfer to local carrier for final delivery.
April 16, 2012 11:34:31 PM AU Arrived at destination country
April 13, 2012 09:16:00 PM AU Arrived at destination country
April 11, 2012 09:22:00 AM Carlstadt NJ US Departure Scan
April 10, 2012 02:09:30 PM Carlstadt NJ US Arrival Scan
April 6, 2012 06:10:59 PM Carlstadt NJ US Customs Clearance delay

[sensei_]

from my experience I-Parcel only uses offpeak shipping, so your package may stay in the warehouse for over a week before it's even moved.

fair enough.... im in no rush, but i would like to get my things faster. having said that $8 to ship is very cheap no matter how you put it.


I placed my order 04/05/12, cleared Customs 08/05/12, arrived in Australia 11/05/12 (Friday), delivered today.

I can't believe I got it delivered from the U.S for $8! Can't wait for my next service in 3,000kms, my engine is so rough and noisey atm.

using iparcel? that is very fast!!

[Nuggety Nugget]

Yeah that was with i-parcel, but from peetah's post UPS is bloody fast as. How much did you pay for UPS delivery Peetah?

[peetah]

Same price... didn't change anything. Seems 2 boxes are too much for Iparcel. Mate also ordered 2 and ups as well.

[EuroGraphite]

My first shipment was via Fedex, and that took 4 days in total. Didn't cost any extra.

My 2nd shipment was through i-parcel. Unfortunately, it was stuck in customs for 2wks, at which point I asked Amazon to resend it. I also requested that they send it through Fedex/usps/etc but they couldn't manually select it (??). In any case, will see if this occasion is any better.

[sensei_]

interesting if i buy 24 bottles, shipping is close to $80

[EuroGraphite]

interesting if i buy 24 bottles, shipping is close to $80

Still approx $8 shipping per 12 bottles... I think you may have selected a different 'seller'. Needs to be via "Amazon Exports Inc". Did you use the link in my first post?

[sensei_]

definitely the correct link as per the OP, i even cleared out my cart and made sure i didnt get it wrong.

if i use standard shipping its $8.83/12 bottles. choose express and that figure goes up $37.46

[EuroGraphite]

ah ok. The $8 is for standard shipping which could mean any one of dhl/fedex/ups/iparcel. However, it would seem the iparcel version of standard shipping is much worse than the others. :(

[peetah]

I just selected standard shipping. If I were to take a stab in the dark I'd say when ordering 2 boxes it could go by anyone but iParcel (guessing it's too heavy for them).

[ChaosMaster]

Damn, I should have ordered earlier. Now AUD is below the USD. Won't make that much of a difference though.

[sensei_]

still a very good price regardless

[EuroGraphite]

My order for my 1st and 2nd shipment was for 24 bottles, (i.e. 2 boxes). First was sent through via dhl/fedex, i forget which one... But for the 2nd shipment, it was through iparcel. Amazon said it was pretty random....?

[peetah]

My order for my 1st and 2nd shipment was for 24 bottles, (i.e. 2 boxes). First was sent through via dhl/fedex, i forget which one... But for the 2nd shipment, it was through iparcel. Amazon said it was pretty random....?

That's interesting... guessing it's all random then.

[Fredoops]

Get all my oils as well


They are 1 day late.

[sensei_]

my oils were just received at iparcel. now waiting for the export bit to happen

[sensei_]

Just a record, amazon is no longer shipping those oils to australia :(.

I was sitting on the fence whether to get another 12 quarts. Guess its too late now.

[EKVTIR-T]

Just a record, amazon is no longer shipping those oils to australia :(.

I was sitting on the fence whether to get another 12 quarts. Guess its too late now.
What the hell?

[sensei_]

yeah that is what im thinking.

[Fredoops]

What the hell?
Probably realised they are losing $$$ over it lol

[sensei_]

Seems like they are back for sale again... Looking to get a set of bolt grips, and bundle it together with my order.

[pitiek]

Done the 10k service with Redline oil change a week ago..
The engine runs a lot smoother and I'm now getting 850k from a full tank 98 fuel..
Definitely worth the extra penny...

[Nuggety Nugget]

Just did my 40,000km service with Redline oil. Definitely smoother and quieter than Motul 8100, but it didn't get rid of the vibration in the gas pedal at low revs like I had hoped. I guess I'll have to live with that because a full gearbox flush with Redline D4 didn't help with it either. Still a noticeable difference but I don't know if I'd pay the regular aus price.

[10KRPM]

anyone bought any more oil via amazon?

shipping is still around 8 dollars!

[sensei_]

wierdly, its only on the 5w-30. got a second car that needs 10w-40 but shipping is $66 for that.

[ChaosMaster]

Yeah, it's a shipping error on the 5w30. Even the D4 is charging $66.

[sensei_]

if only i could use the same 5w-30 in the other car. save me a pretty penny in shipping :D

having said that, it is still cheaper to buy from amazon then from the sharks here down under.

[Fredoops]

Mines running redline now.

Looovvvviiinnngg it

[Softcox]

Holy crap this is cheap, just ordered the 12 pack for $139.94 AUD delivered! :O

[Nuggety Nugget]

Mines running redline now.

Looovvvviiinnngg it
What improvements have you seen?

[I CU2]

What's a good oil filter to go with this?

[sensei_]

Im using these filters (http://www.pureoil.com) because they are made in the usa. i found out the honda filters are made in thailand but with the japanese price tag, i decided enough is enough and ill just use some quality one instead.

[Nuggety Nugget]

I got the K&N pro series (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HONDA-ACCORD-EURO-K-N-PRO-SERIES-OIL-FILTER-PS-1010-MOST-MODELS-2003-CURRENT-/260968245793?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cc2eb6a21) for my last service. Works out really cheap if you order a few of them.

[Fredoops]

What improvements have you seen?

Revs smoother and quieter than the mobil one I had before.
Much quieter.


I use mobil one extended performance filter, 20 bucks, Double the capacity.

[EKVTIR-T]

You can still find japanese oem filters around rather than settle for thailand ones

^ That k&n above is good price for aussie seller

[Softcox]

Anyone else get this when tracking their parcel from Amazon?

22888

I guess it just means it'll be delayed a while :secret:

[Fredoops]

Anyone else get this when tracking their parcel from Amazon?

22888

I guess it just means it'll be delayed a while :secret:

I got that from mine. It's a one week delay.

[sensei_]

You can still find japanese oem filters around rather than settle for thailand ones

^ That k&n above is good price for aussie seller

ive looked around at dealerships in perth, and everyone has thai made ones. where can i find some jap ones?


Anyone else get this when tracking their parcel from Amazon?

22888

I guess it just means it'll be delayed a while :secret:

thats pretty normal. expect that to see that for about 5-7 days before you see them shipped out to you

[Softcox]

Thanks guys, not in any hurry so all good!

[ChaosMaster]

Just thinking, how does Royal Purple compare to Redline?

[Fredoops]

Just thinking, how does Royal Purple compare to Redline?

group4 vs group5.

[ChaosMaster]

Hmmm, from memory, Group 4 was better suited for Racing was it?

[Fredoops]

Hmmm, from memory, Group 4 was better suited for Racing was it?
other way around, group5 is more race oriented like Motul

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/esters-in-synthetic-lubricants/

this is a bit advertising but good info nonetheless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGirwUAMnDE

[Nuggety Nugget]

I'm thinking of trying Royal Purple next. Redline didn't make my engine as smooth as I'd hoped and it already feels like it's breaking down after about 1,000kms. If Royal Purple isn't any better I'll have to accept Redline is as good as it's gonna get.

[ChaosMaster]

other way around, group5 is more race oriented like Motul

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/esters-in-synthetic-lubricants/

this is a bit advertising but good info nonetheless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGirwUAMnDE

Nice video. Ah yeah, keep getting mixed up. Think it was the G5 had more of some chemical which was bad for the cat or something.

[racerwannabe]

Just bought some...hope it will be good.

[racerwannabe]

Just bought some...hope it will be good.

Super fast shipping. Ordered on the 11th and it arrived today on the 18th! Very happy.

[sensei_]

lucky you. i waited like almost 3 weeks.

[Fredoops]

Looks like redline has got competition


Repco.
Penrite racing 5 5w30: $57 <---- PAO and Ester oil!!! REAL GROUP 4 & 5 synthetic.

[sensei_]

only for 5w30? or does the special extend to other grades of oil too.

[Fredoops]

only for 5w30? or does the special extend to other grades of oil too.
Look at the latest repco catalogue.

Penrite racing all for $56.99 (group 4 and 5)
5w30
0w40
15w50

HPR5 5w40 (group 3): $43.99

[sensei_]

dont have one, and couldnt find one on the website :(

[natnat]

http://images.lasoomedia1.com.au/imageicon/rep/prod/j00522088/c_001/rep_prod_j00522088_c_001_r01.pdf

i am seeing some oil priced at really good prices for the last 8 years!

[sensei_]

thanks for that. looks like i was looking at the wrong site.

[Fredoops]

Had a more detailed look at the Penrite racing oils, they are about the same (or slightly cheaper) than the redlines

http://www.penriteoil.com.au/engineoils-products.php?id_categ=1&id_products=276

So much zinc in that oils it'll rival redline for protection.

Redline does have a higher flashpoint due to its full Group 5 base compared to a group 4&5 mix in the Penrite.

[sensei_]

Looks like the penrite is a highly competitive oil compared to the redline.

Just loaded up the brochure, looks like ill be doing a decent shop there (clay bar, wash,wax, etc)

[Fredoops]

Looks like the penrite is a highly competitive oil compared to the redline.

Just loaded up the brochure, looks like ill be doing a decent shop there (clay bar, wash,wax, etc)

Penrite also makes a Honda specific (full synthetic) power steering fluid: Penrite HPSO

[rom5]

Had a more detailed look at the Penrite racing oils, they are about the same (or slightly cheaper) than the redlines

http://www.penriteoil.com.au/engineoils-products.php?id_categ=1&id_products=276

So much zinc in that oils it'll rival redline for protection.

Redline does have a higher flashpoint due to its full Group 5 base compared to a group 4&5 mix in the Penrite.


can you please create a list of the oils and which category (group 3,4 or 5) for us noobs so we can relate to when purchasing?

[Fredoops]

can you please create a list of the oils and which category (group 3,4 or 5) for us noobs so we can relate to when purchasing?

As much as I want to, the oil companies rarely display the type of base stock they are using and it's usually a mix.

But as a general rule, unless specified on the bottle, the cheaper synthetics Shell Helix Ultra/Castrol Titanium etc are group 3, even then there's rare exceptions depend on oil weight, for example, 0w40 synthetic oils normally require a good portion of group 4 or 5 in the mix to reach that grade.

So it's really complex sadly. But whenever a brand actually displays their base stock as group 4 &5 (Redline/Amsoil/Mutol/Penrite), we jump on it if its a good price.

[ChaosMaster]

Damn, was hoping for some 10w30, which seems rare in Aus for some reason.

[Fredoops]

Damn, was hoping for some 10w30, which seems rare in Aus for some reason.

Why 10w in particular?

[ChaosMaster]

For older engines. At least that's what the manual suggest. 5w30 also works, but they recommend it for 25° down.

[I CU2]

Is "Racing" oil alright for everyday run around cars (like our Euros)?

[Fredoops]

Is "Racing" oil alright for everyday run around cars (like our Euros)?

Wer'e using redline which is a racing fluid anyway.

[ChaosMaster]

Is "Racing" oil alright for everyday run around cars (like our Euros)?

I would say so. "Racing" stuff are usually made to much lower tolerances, and is designed to deal with much higher stress and temps. Rated for higher mileage as well.

[ExpressCoffee]

Is it too late for this?

[sensei_]

too late for what?

if you are referring to using race oils. it is never too late.

[ExpressCoffee]

For the deal! haha
or is it a permanent thing?


edit: oh it's around $142.. so i can still get it!

[Fredoops]

For the deal! haha
or is it a permanent thing?


edit: oh it's around $142.. so i can still get it!

... Or you could get Penrite Racing 5w-30 from repco right now for slightly less per liter.

And not having to deal with international shipping.

[ExpressCoffee]

... Or you could get Penrite Racing 5w-30 from repco right now for slightly less per liter.

And not having to deal with international shipping.

Penrith and redline are pretty similar in performance yeah?

Repco have some good sales at the moment I see.

Speaking of Penrite.. I got a free bottle of their brake fluid. Should I switch from the Honda one to theirs?

[sensei_]

well the racing oil is based on similar basestocks so how bad can it be. (thats my take on it anyway)

[Fredoops]

well the racing oil is based on similar basestocks so how bad can it be. (thats my take on it anyway)
^^^^ pretty much that.

Don't get me wrong I love my redlines, but the shipping was a nightmare for me.

[ExpressCoffee]

Ok thanks guys!

[pitiek]

FYI Amazon has fixed the shipping calculator error.. It is now $66 shipping for 12 quart... Bugger...
I cannot change my oil to a lower spec since the engine is now running super smooth...

Any idea where to get the same oil for the same money or similar grade oil?

[ChaosMaster]

FYI Amazon has fixed the shipping calculator error.. It is now $66 shipping for 12 quart... Bugger...
I cannot change my oil to a lower spec since the engine is now running super smooth...

Any idea where to get the same oil for the same money or similar grade oil?

Although I hate to say it, Honda FEO will be just as smooth, especially 0w20. RedLine is really only beneficial if you RedLine a lot.

[Nuggety Nugget]

Now that the Redline "deal" is no longer available, can anyone recommend another good fully synthetic oil for a smooth, quiet engine? I'm leading towards Royal Purple for my next service. I might look into Honda FEO as Chaos mentioned.

[Fredoops]

or even Penrite.

[ChaosMaster]

I'm still praying for the deal to come back again. I think it went away one time only to come back a few months later. Here's hoping.

[Nuggety Nugget]

or even Penrite.

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Penrite-10-Tenths-Racing-5-Engine-Oil-5W-30-5-Litre.aspx?pid=339061&menuFrom=60103#Cross

This?


I'm still praying for the deal to come back again. I think it went away one time only to come back a few months later. Here's hoping.
Haha let it go man, they're onto us.

[alex804]

i am going to sell my cl9 as i need to get back to home country. i have a full 1 quart 12 bottle red line synthetic oil for sale. If someone is interested just pm me :)