flashed when avoiding puddle :(

[cihanvtec]

so on my way to work today, i got flashed by a red light camera while trying to avoid a puddle.. so this is what happened..

my lane was going straight, and the right lane was a turning lane.
i was probably the second or third car in line waiting at the red light. it was a green arrow for the people turning right. the arrow turned red, and after a few seconds, i had a green light to go straight.
as we moved forward the car infront of me went through what looked to be a pretty deep puddle splashing all over the place. as i approached, i saw that the puddle was covering more than half my lane.. i checked to make sure there were no cars on my right and proceeded around the puddle, when i realised i had been flashed.. im guessing i set the sensor off as half my car was in the turning lane.

what are my options here? i definately dont want to lose 3 demerit points and pay up to $300.

is this worth disputing? im hoping that the puddle will be visible in the photo taken, and also hoping that the angle of the car looks as though in going straight. i dont want them saying i decided to turn right afterwards.

do i have much of a chance here? i dont feel as though i should have to go through a puddle that deep, and risk damaging something on my car just because the councils drainage system sucks balls.

wat do you guys recommend?

[trism]

What happens is, two photos are taken, one when you cross the line, and another as you are turning the corner.

What will happen with you, is the 2nd photo will show you going straight, so it won't get sent.

If it does, you can appeal it

[cihanvtec]

oh really? wow thanks for that man, there were definately 2 flashes, i thought the second one was for the car behind me because they did a similar thing.

so theres a good chance i wont actually recieve it?

[TypeS]

Yeah I've done the same thing before, you will be fine.

But if you're paranoid you can frequently ring the automated Vic Roads Hotline below to check if any points have been recorded against your license;

13 11 71

[cihanvtec]

haha thanks man!
im pretty paranoid! i just got my licence back in december! ive been driving like a granny ever since i lost it. i would be devestated to accumulate points for something like this.

[dougie_504]

What happens is, two photos are taken, one when you cross the line, and another as you are turning the corner.

What will happen with you, is the 2nd photo will show you going straight, so it won't get sent.

If it does, you can appeal it

Right as always. This exact thing has happened to me (not puddle though, the guy on my left drifted to his right into my lane).

[cihanvtec]

thanks for the input guys! was stressing out so bad! hopefully i dont revieve anything and dot have to bother with it!!!

[WATAJK]

Just something for you buddy.
Seriously watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc7oTrGF2kY&feature=player_embedded

And Read
http://www.camerassavelives.vic.gov.au/home/cameras/how+cameras+work/

Hope this helps you.

By the way, points don't register against your name till the fine is paid.

[cihanvtec]

Just something for you buddy.
Seriously watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc7oTrGF2kY&feature=player_embedded

And Read
http://www.camerassavelives.vic.gov.au/home/cameras/how+cameras+work/

Hope this helps you.

By the way, points don't register against your name till the fine is paid.

thanks for that mate. pretty interesting.

thats got me a little worried now though. technically i continued through the intersection, setting off the second sensor. so that being said, im guessing i will recieve a fine? i highly doubt that each photo is reviewed before it is sent out? theyre not
going to care whether i went straight or completed a turn. in their minds, the second sensor was triggered, indicating i followed through!

arghhh jeezzzz!!!!! im gna have to deal with a whole lot of crap now, and most likely have to spend more money through the courts just to have my side heard!!!

[trism]

What I'd do if I were you, ring up VicRoads, they will be able to tell you who to call, it might even be them, tell them the situation and they will tell you how it will work.

[WATAJK]

thanks for that mate. pretty interesting.

thats got me a little worried now though. technically i continued through the intersection, setting off the second sensor. so that being said, im guessing i will recieve a fine? i highly doubt that each photo is reviewed before it is sent out? theyre not
going to care whether i went straight or completed a turn. in their minds, the second sensor was triggered, indicating i followed through!

arghhh jeezzzz!!!!! im gna have to deal with a whole lot of crap now, and most likely have to spend more money through the courts just to have my side heard!!!

All cases are meant to be reviewed first hand BEFORE a notice is issued so this is why if you believe you have wrongly been issued a fine you then have the opportunity to fight it in court if you so please to.

Trism's suggestion is probably the best way to go BUT in the saying that they probably won't say much as VicRoads don't check the photos or have anything to do with speed cameras (All they do is do road maintenance, license testing, license information, demerit points etc) You need to speak to Civic Compliance (Traffic Camera Office) but they will tell you nothing as whatever they say might cause damaging evidence against the fine if you are issued it (if they do tell you stuff, right down the name of the operator and what ever else he may have told you)
At the end of the day mate, your going to have be playing the waiting game, if nothing comes in 4-6 weeks, I'd say your alright.

[namtaro]

should be fine, once i was in the turning lane, but it didnt turn green, only the straight lane did, so i was cbf and went straight, got flashed by the camera but never got anything in the mail. its been like more than half a year now. hope that helps ish =S

[CrystalSkull]

wat do you guys recommend?

For driving technique?
If you can't avoid a puddle and adhere to road rules, I'd recommend slowing down. ;)
Besides is your car that low a 'puddle' will damage your car? If midget and driving midget car please ignore all.

[cihanvtec]

For driving technique?
If you can't avoid a puddle and adhere to road rules, I'd recommend slowing down. ;)
Besides is your car that low a 'puddle' will damage your car? If midget and driving midget car please ignore all.

the car is lowered to a legal height. and i was going at max 10km/h. if you bothered to read, i was stationary at the lights. i didnt hit 100kmh in 2 meters mate. i didnt say it will definately damage the car, but i didnt want to 'risk' it. i shouldnt have to.

[eg5civic]

Yeah I don't blame you about dodging puddle man, ( I know this is irrelevant to topic) but some puddles may cover a pothole, I would know as I hit a little puddle as I was moving forwards to turn and it turned out there was a massive pothole underneath that made my ute drop into it a good 100mm and put my alignment out a fair whack

On topic, I can't see you being fined as said about taking two photos, they should see you went straight, if not I'm sure your side of the story will hold up in court and the judge would most likely rule in your favor

[clayton4115]

did you receive the ticket?