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Low Toy
27-04-2012, 10:09 PM
Hey guys, I went to Autobarn to buy new headlight bulbs recently and the guy behind the counter tried telling me that my base model '05 Euro has HID's and I haven't had time to pull anything apart but is there an easy way to tell? From what i've read on here they were only standard on the Lux model.
Anyway, the reason I've had problems with my headlights is one night after a bad storm I noticed water in my drivers side headlight and a few days later when I turned on my lights I noticed that it was out, a couple of times after that it worked but then would randomly flicker out and now it hasn't worked at all for months... The water is still in there, it just looks like condensation on the inside of the headlight every morning... Is it possible to pull the headlight apart and get all the water out and it will come good or replace the bulb or whole headlight?

roony
27-04-2012, 10:30 PM
Luxury models will have hids, base will not.

You have a crack or something that water went in? Well generally the cl9 headlights suffered from a poor seal that would get condensation. Mine also get. Best place to get fixed is headlight plus in moorabin. They have fixed alot of euro headlights. After fix no more condensarion. They open the headlight, clean and reseal better. Cost should be 80$ per light

I CU2
27-04-2012, 10:33 PM
Water condensation is a known problem in CL9's, you can try to take it all apart yourself and get out the moisture but when your reseal it chances are that it won't make a 100% seal and will eventually build up water again in there - try looking at finding a professional who will do this.

The base Euro's don't have HID's, nor the projectors, auto-levellers and washers that you'll need if you do choose to go the after-market path (and want a legal, road worthy car).

If you do get your headlight working again then the Osram Night Breaker Plus has very good reviews as being one of the best halogen bulbs available.

EG52NV
27-04-2012, 11:06 PM
+1 for night breakers! Best halogen bulb I've ever used! Have switched to them after getting sick of dealing with uneven HID glare on the ground produced by EK stock reflectors.

Not to mention the FM interference produced by el cheapo eBay ballasts

Low Toy
27-04-2012, 11:12 PM
Thanks for confirmation guys, I was 99% sure i didn't have HID's, I'll be sure to go to that place roony, Moorabin is pretty close by... Where would I find these Night breakers you speak of? The legal, road worthy ship has sailed unfortunately, my missus is a cop and she cringes everytime she gets in my stupidly lowered car with T5 window tint... lol

roony
27-04-2012, 11:18 PM
This is the site

http://www.skyetrading.com/

sensei_
28-04-2012, 12:18 AM
ebay (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=Osram+Night+Breaker+Plus+H4&_sacat=0&_odkw=Osram+Night+Breaker+Plus&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313) has some for "cheap" too. anyone care to share what they retail for in the local shops?

Fredoops
28-04-2012, 12:27 AM
I got a Aftermarket HID conversion kit if you want.... I got no use for it now.

Low Toy
28-04-2012, 11:33 AM
What brand Fredoops and how much you want for it?

EG52NV
30-04-2012, 01:31 PM
ebay (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=Osram+Night+Breaker+Plus+H4&_sacat=0&_odkw=Osram+Night+Breaker+Plus&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313) has some for "cheap" too. anyone care to share what they retail for in the local shops?

bought mine from ebay too havent seen them in AUS retail stores

curtis265
30-04-2012, 01:33 PM
ur mrs is a cop and you drive a defectable car?

naice

Also try crystal visions if u want a slightly whiter globe. I don't htink theyre brighter than nightbrakers

Fredoops
30-04-2012, 02:29 PM
ur mrs is a cop and you drive a defectable car?

naice

Also try crystal visions if u want a slightly whiter globe. I don't htink theyre brighter than nightbrakers

Balls of steel. Lols

sensei_
30-04-2012, 03:26 PM
ur mrs is a cop and you drive a defectable car? ...

sorry if im not catching any ball here, but nightbreakers arent legal?

curtis265
30-04-2012, 03:37 PM
talking about that lowness

tonysalib
30-04-2012, 05:55 PM
Also try crystal visions if u want a slightly whiter globe. I don't htink theyre brighter than nightbrakers

+1 on Crystal Visions. I have them and very happy with them, they're a nice white colour that looks similar to HIDs yet brightness is not compromised.

sensei_
30-04-2012, 09:17 PM
talking about that lowness

ah ok.

back on topic, i shall be waiting for my globes to burn out before i upgrade them to something like nightbreakers.

curtis265
30-04-2012, 09:20 PM
+1 on Crystal Visions. I have them and very happy with them, they're a nice white colour that looks similar to HIDs yet brightness is not compromised.
i woudln't say it's not compromised, it's still not as bright as those ugly yellow stock bulbs but much more pleasing on the eye

I'm running PIAA 5100k southern star white

now they look like HID's! but are definitely not bright.. :(

NightKids
30-04-2012, 09:44 PM
Philips XTreme or Osram Nightbreakers you cannot go wrong with either one.

http://www.powerbulbs.com/au

This site offers free shipping and I've got excellent service from them

However there is brighter, if you're interested then post in here. I can link you to it.

sensei_
30-04-2012, 10:13 PM
brighter is always good. but not to the point where you get the blue tint in the light

NightKids
30-04-2012, 10:23 PM
I would never recommend a blue tint in the light as they are dangerous in bad conditions, e.g. Raining

curtis265
01-05-2012, 01:13 AM
brighter is always good. but not to the point where you get the blue tint in the light

there is no such thing as brighter with a tint in the light

6000k is not brighter than 4300k.

sensei_
01-05-2012, 01:50 AM
i thought the K value referred to the temperature, and therefore reflected the brightness of the light??

excuse the lack of knowledge. always willing to learn more.

EG52NV
01-05-2012, 08:45 AM
Lumens measure brightness abd kelvin measures color tempreture

tonysalib
01-05-2012, 09:29 AM
i thought the K value referred to the temperature, and therefore reflected the brightness of the light??

excuse the lack of knowledge. always willing to learn more.

It's actually the opposite. The higher the temperature, the less bright it is.

NightKids
01-05-2012, 10:54 AM
There is an exception to the rule. A 55W 6000K HID will be brighter than a 35W 4300K HID.

Apart from this scenario, the above statement holds true.

curtis265
01-05-2012, 10:57 AM
ok, it should say this then

for a given power output, 4300k will produce the greatest lumen output

sensei_
01-05-2012, 11:34 AM
thanks for clearing it up guys... looks like my next set of bulbs will be something along the 4300K mark. based on my "research" it seems to be the safe point without going into the extremes.

Adrian128
01-05-2012, 11:39 AM
Philips XTreme or Osram Nightbreakers you cannot go wrong with either one.

http://www.powerbulbs.com/au

This site offers free shipping and I've got excellent service from them


+1 for Powerbulbs..highly recommended...

tron07
01-05-2012, 12:43 PM
the CL9 facelifted version does not have issues with water going into the headlamps. so if you want to fix it for good, change em.

EG52NV
01-05-2012, 07:35 PM
There is an exception to the rule. A 55W 6000K HID will be brighter than a 35W 4300K HID.

Apart from this scenario, the above statement holds true.

lol thats like comparing my 4000k LED hand torch to 10,000k HID

NightKids
02-05-2012, 12:36 PM
lol thats like comparing my 4000k LED hand torch to 10,000k HID

Oh i'm a collector myself... what flashlight do you have?

EG52NV
02-05-2012, 05:07 PM
Oh i'm a collector myself... what flashlight do you have?

have given up trying to keep up with the trends so only got 2 flash lights left

http://dx.com/torch-light-c78-flood-to-throw-zooming-cree-q3-wc-130-lumen-led-flashlight-1-aa-29095?item=25 (Love the zoomable torches) and
http://dx.com/cree-6500k-100lm-ipx8-1-led-diving-flashlight-4-x-aa-112889 (for maximum runtime!)

MR_LATE
02-05-2012, 07:20 PM
did someone say flashlight??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkkU0UO3sek&feature=share%27%2C%29

NightKids
02-05-2012, 08:40 PM
Back to topic... this is one of the best H1 bulbs you can get.

http://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/philips-xtreme-vision-h1-car-headlight-bulbs

And off topic this is my collection... lol What can I say, i love lights..

http://oi47.tinypic.com/2m5ay3b.jpg

EG52NV
02-05-2012, 09:15 PM
You have 2 e05s? What a hoarder lol

NightKids
03-05-2012, 10:54 AM
I gave one to my friend as a present, but I do have 2 x LD10s as can be seen in the picture..

Low Toy
04-05-2012, 08:39 PM
ur mrs is a cop and you drive a defectable car?

naice

Haha, yes...


Philips XTreme or Osram Nightbreakers you cannot go wrong with either one.

http://www.powerbulbs.com/au

This site offers free shipping and I've got excellent service from them

However there is brighter, if you're interested then post in here. I can link you to it.

Excellent site, thanks for the link, I'm going with the Nightbreakers... Hopefully I get my headlight out and resealed before they get delivered...

Low Toy
09-06-2012, 03:06 AM
Well I pulled my headlight out and poured the water out of it, seriously like half a litre, and let it dry out for 24 hours, replaced the silica gel sachet that was in the headlight (obviously Honda knew this was a problem when they installed these) and replaced my bulbs. It's been two weeks and my headlights are still dry, been driving in rain almost every day since (I live in Melbourne). And Nightbreakers are great...

Fredoops
17-06-2012, 11:20 PM
hey Low Toy

did you use those nightbreakers? just wanna make sure I get the right one's lol

http://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/osram-night-breaker-plus-h1-two-bulbs

Zenki
17-06-2012, 11:54 PM
Back to topic... this is one of the best H1 bulbs you can get.

http://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/philips-xtreme-vision-h1-car-headlight-bulbs

And off topic this is my collection... lol What can I say, i love lights..

http://oi47.tinypic.com/2m5ay3b.jpg

Sorry for going off topic but which torch would you recommend? I am thinking about getting one as I havent got any atm

curtis265
17-06-2012, 11:58 PM
Sorry for going off topic but which torch would you recommend? I am thinking about getting one as I havent got any atm

fleshlight for sure

Fredoops
18-06-2012, 12:08 AM
fleshlight for sure

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2xm3xomwp1qdketio3_400.png

caudex
18-06-2012, 08:59 AM
sorry if im not catching any ball here, but nightbreakers arent legal?
The Osram Nightbreakers are Rebadged to Narva BluePower (Should be available at Repco).

They reworded some of the package so it says ADR Approved.