View Full Version : Taking out air con to improve performance!
CarbyDave606
20-05-2012, 01:20 PM
Does any one here know how to remove all air con and if possible power steering parts from the engine bay of a 1991 honda civic gl with the D15b4 engine?
Help much appreciated! :thumbsup:
Glocker
20-05-2012, 01:42 PM
Just turn it off when you are hitting VTEC.
Just cut the belts, That said it does **** all. So don't cut the belts
u mad?
20-05-2012, 04:24 PM
so not worth doing in a d15b
CRXDEL501
20-05-2012, 04:34 PM
To increase performance on d15... Lol of the day
Keep your air con
Azn Boi RiceR
20-05-2012, 06:39 PM
you be sorry after you cut the air con once summer hits again
getm_up
20-05-2012, 06:52 PM
my aircon will be coming out once i boost my engine.
just put all windows down and breeze !!!
FAITHLESS
20-05-2012, 09:31 PM
http://fillyourplate.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/horse-laugh-300x286.jpg
hmetro24
21-05-2012, 06:52 AM
U will not lose power if the ac is connected unless its On. Removing power steering will give u a bit more power , taking ac is kinda useless unless u want a room for big turbo charger
CarbyDave606
21-05-2012, 09:30 AM
i know it sounds funny guys but I am doing a vtec mini me conversion eventually. I am just doing free mods at the moment.
I have had a b16 CRX SIR I ain't new to honda :thumbsup:
I done it now anyway I meant take the whole lot out not just stop them working. Weight reduction and removing all the hoses etc. Tidying the engine bay ;)
FAITHLESS
21-05-2012, 09:37 AM
They are good comforts man. Dis dun make sense.
sebtoombs
21-05-2012, 04:35 PM
as hmetro24 said, removing the a/c won't really make any difference except from a weight reduction perspective. The a/c compressor uses an electric clutch (i.e. a magnet) so when its not on its not using any power.
If you wish to remove the power steering, you will either need to open up the steering rack, and remove all of the vanes from the pump within the rack, fill the assembly with fluid and close it all up. Alternatively you can make a line that loops the input and output of the rack, but again, ensure its full of p/s fluid. Then to remove the rest simply remove the p/s belt, unbolt the pump, reservoir, and remove the lines connecting the pump and rack.
But like everyone else has said, its not really worth it.
~Sp33~
21-05-2012, 04:51 PM
I took out the whole A/C system. I'd be surprised if it was 10-12kg. The only thing that weighs anything is the compressor. If your AC works, not worth it.
CRXDEL501
21-05-2012, 05:01 PM
It's d15b end of story lol
Hope you have a cup holder. It was the reason I hooked my PS back up lol I only disconnected it because Ive never had it and don't really like it but went soft and hooked it back up.
CarbyDave606
23-05-2012, 11:19 AM
actually the main one for making a difference was the power steering. I prefer the feel of a car without it and it is now way more fun to drive. Air con did feck all really just wanted something to do on a sunny day ha!
trism
23-05-2012, 01:15 PM
Silly. After driving the past 5 summers with no aircon, I'll never live without it again.
jase89
23-05-2012, 02:17 PM
aircon is essential.. :thumbsup: no matter where you are, from either defogging your windows or just plain stinking hot during summer time its like your in an oven. So would never take mine off.
Bludger
23-05-2012, 02:23 PM
aircon is essential.. :thumbsup: no matter where you are, from either defogging your windows or just plain stinking hot during summer time its like your in an oven. So would never take mine off.
tell that to steer^gimic
CarbyDave606
23-05-2012, 05:21 PM
all gone. Weight reduction
Every little helps ha
~Sp33~
23-05-2012, 07:39 PM
12kg from AC
5kg from perspiration and sweat.
^LOL
Took mine out as when i did my swap i didnt have the right bracket/compressor combination. Since then, it sucked in summer BIG TIME.
Now my car isnt a streeter it doesnt matter i'd have ripped it out anyway for weight loss and to free up a little parasitic drag on the crankshaft.
I reccomend hunting down an oem ac delete kit as the condenser box under the dash is quite heavy and in combination with the brackets, compressor, lines and hoses, you're saving about 20kgs in total.
P.s. if u cant get a kit, remove the condenser box and open it up and gut out all the core etc and then TAPE UP THE BOX and re-install. Airflow wont be as powefull for your fan/blower but good enough and u save most of the weight.
marquee
23-05-2012, 09:34 PM
Problem Solved :P but serious should've kept it
http://www.p-wholesale.com/upimg/9/426a1/mini-car-fan-df-4-316.jpg
~Sp33~
23-05-2012, 09:58 PM
as the condenser box under the dash is quite heavy
This is a giant lie.
Mine was about 6kg, i weigh everything that i rip out.. maybe yours was lighter? Lol
CarbyDave606
24-05-2012, 08:45 AM
Cheers for the help guys. That fan idea LOL awesome
~Sp33~
24-05-2012, 10:57 PM
Mine was about 6kg, i weigh everything that i rip out.. maybe yours was lighter? Lol
Are you talking about the evaporator? I doubt it would be 1 kg, let alone 6. I'll weigh it next time i'm in my shed.
grifty
25-05-2012, 11:54 AM
Are you talking about the evaporator? I doubt it would be 1 kg, let alone 6. I'll weigh it next time i'm in my shed.
Evaporator is about 1.5-2KG, the compressor and the compressor bracket weigh the most.
JDM-derek
25-05-2012, 07:52 PM
cut every belt LOL
what happens when your windscreen fogs up?
Bludger
25-05-2012, 09:21 PM
what happens when your windscreen fogs up?
heat + windows down.
FAITHLESS
25-05-2012, 09:26 PM
heat + windows down.
yup.
my car came without aircon from the factory LOL
Bludger
25-05-2012, 09:29 PM
yup.
my car came without aircon from the factory LOL
using the A/C gets rid of the fog fast, but also causes the fog to appear faster.
I try use the A/C as little as possible to defog the screen.
FAITHLESS
25-05-2012, 09:41 PM
using the A/C gets rid of the fog fast, but also causes the fog to appear faster.
I try use the A/C as little as possible to defog the screen.
even when i had a/c i tried to use it as little as possible
rb25 guzzled enough fuel as it was
still miss a/c tho
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