EJ1/EG coupe headlight conversion for EM1

[EJ1]

Interested in making a purchase for a civic soon. Currently own a 1999 Nissan Stagea (rare factory manual) which is up for sale at the moment.

Like the look of the EJ1 coupe quite a lot and was wondering if a EJ1/EG coupe headlight conversion was possible on the EM1's without any structural modification/body modification as far I know these are only available for personal import and not on the SEVS list.

Was thinking to myself both these different models should be based primarily on the same chassis shape and as long as the supporting parts i.e bumper, reo, bonnet, headlights ect ect were purchased it should be a direct bolt on.

Could someone please shed some more light on this topic and correct me if I'am wrong.

Best regards Chris.

[mugen_ctr]

worlds apart the two cars hahaha, different chassis, different body panels and dimensions

Ive only ever come across Ek front end on eg, but never other way around but anythings possible with money, and bit of fabrication ;)

Someone here has done the ek face on eg conversion, maybe they can shed more light on it, and thus u do the same for eg front end onto ek, :)

If ek front end fits onto eg, i dont see why it wouldnt work vice versa

[NeedVtec]

would require lots of work.

not straight fit as mentioned above.

would look sick.



i dont even know anymore..

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[EJ1]

Thanks guys. Will wait for some more responses...

[FAITHLESS]

Why would you convert the front end of an em1?? They so beautiful

[mugen_ctr]

Ej1 = Original Civic coupe, since we cant get em, make one hahahaha

[EJ1]

Ej1 = Original Civic coupe, since we cant get em, make one hahahaha

That's right. The EJ1 had such a unique look the EM1 front end just doesn't cut it/seem JDM enough for me. I bought the RS four S Stagea to be somewhat different and unique now I'm looking at starting another project soon the Stagea are just such an easy car to modify and extract power from.

I like myself a bit of a challenge in life, Things that come easy to me I tend to get sick of very easy.

[FAITHLESS]

Define: JDM

[NeedVtec]

Define: JDM

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[FAITHLESS]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3orkn8ORA1rn2llbo1_400.gif

revelations

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/075/873/Raisins_Face.jpg?1318992465

[mugen_ctr]

That's right. The EJ1 had such a unique look the EM1 front end just doesn't cut it/seem JDM enough for me. I bought the RS four S Stagea to be somewhat different and unique now I'm looking at starting another project soon the Stagea are just such an easy car to modify and extract power from.

I like myself a bit of a challenge in life, Things that come easy to me I tend to get sick of very easy.

i do believe theres is maybe 1 or 2 jdm import EJ1 floating around, Brisbane or Sydney, not sure, but there is definite one out there haha

But it would be a challenge, maybe cutting and extending panels to fit an re shaping the rad support bar to fit the headlights an all, should b an interesting build if it ever gets the green light

[mugen_ctr]

Define: JDM

Japanese domestic Market??? LOL

speaking of that, all coupes are indeed built in the USA, and intended for US market only so it doesnt make sense to really call it jdm hahaha, but i guess japan honda didnt wanna miss out on the crazed 90's 2 door sports car era that nissan, toyota dominated so much, so they wanted a piece of USA honda coupe civic to make up the coupe segment with the likes of the EJ1, which made way for EJ8 than Em1 which we got in RHD, the born of the SI model :D

Its a shame that the EM1 was the last RHD civic coupe we got here and in japan :(

[croolies]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/croolies/powershot/IMG_0073Large.jpg

so your telling me you dont have many of ej1 coupes here? jeez, makes me wish i was bak in nz, ive picked up two over there for a grand each, then picked up two eg6's for the b16a conversions (both 1 grand)

on a side note, look up dc2 front on a eg, theres threads on honda-tech,

youd need top and bottem radi supports, guards headlights etc bonnet rah rah usual bits

but the tricky part is you have to use the ek guard and cut it in the middle and join it to the front half of the eg guard (so it matches around the indicators, if you grab a spare guard or 3, waz your old one off and have a practise and joining them (before you buy all the bits) that way you can see if you really want to go down that line, and i'd hope you can weld yourself as otherwise it will be very expensive for a shop to do trial and error fitting parts

[FAITHLESS]

Japanese domestic Market??? LOL
this was JK

[EJ1]

By saying JDM meaning the front end (headlights) having more of a authentic JDM look to me a far more aggressive look in my eyes. Correct the EJ1 was built in USA but it was a Japanese design, Correct me if I'am wrong.... EJ1 was a JDM design hence the EM1 and various other models.

Welding is no issue here have been brought up around the areas of metal fabrication so therefore the conversion is only a matter of trial and error as usual. With well placed measurements and a sharp eye the conversion should go smoothly. Sourcing the parts would be the only difficult part of the conversion.

[NeedVtec]

EG front Stagea.

[EJ1]

Does anyone have a paper bag please I think I'm feeling sick...


Stag front on EG anyone?

[croolies]

^^ eww, finding pasrts would be easy any eg hatch front

[FAITHLESS]

Stagea front on rear of eg

[EJ1]

^^ eww, finding pasrts would be easy any eg hatch front


Stagea front on rear of eg

hahaha.. Yeah I was reading something about the sedan eg's headlights being longer in length or something but the eg hatch's parts match the eg coupe.

[PGB]

All EG headlights are the same EJ1. Corner lamps, bonnet,front bar and guards are different.
If you want a hatch bar you'll need to use hatch corner lamps and hatch guards for your cut. Want a sedan front bar then vice versa, obviously ;) Have a hatch front on my sedan :cool:
Good luck with whatever path you choose. I'd be happy as larry with an EM1 to be honest even though I love EG's. Coupes are all over The Netherlands. Kills me when I visit there haha

[EJ1]

Thanks pal, Great to hear you guys on the Honda forums are supportive and very easy to get along with. Might be a bit of a change from a turbocharged inline 6 but cant wait until I join the world of Honda's and start my project.

[VT3C]

I saw a red mx coupe in perth, 20-something girl driving it, bone stock.. i was trying to wait for the driver to return to the car to ask to buy but i missed her and only got a phone photo as it drove off.

I can understand your though process on this one, can be done with a big mallet and a bucket of washers lol. U need an eg hatch front radiator support and bumper support plus hood, fenders etc. Get an empty frontcut and be prepared to get messy on the ej8 chassis lol.

[EJ1]

By bumper support you mean reinforcement bar correct?

[croolies]

Said pieces, are the horizontal welded pieces, the bumper has 5 bolts that go onto this piece, easiest fore to explain, if you need a photo I can provide

[EJ1]

Yes thanks that would be fantastic if it's not of too much trouble to ask.

[croolies]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/croolies/13th155.jpg

yea ok the pictures from a b16 sol, but that doesnt matter two circled pieces, i havent really played with a EK front end, but i beleave they have a metal bracket(with polystyrene foam) for bumper support) EG chassis doesnt have this, and dont put a sedan EG front on, Hatch fronts are so much nicer

also the top section actually goes right to the guards aswell, for got to highlight them

and for a poster up the chain, EG headlights are differeant between Hatch and sedan also (not by much)

random fact, that delsol was towed 200km by a caravan whilst in 1st gear, would have been forced to do like 1500rpm :(

still good for pedal box and manual conversion parts for ($20) **** i love NZ :)

[PGB]

Sorry EJ1. Just had to ask..

Croolies, How are the headlights different. Cosmetic or structurally?
Interested to know for future reference. Thanks

[croolies]

pgb, i was under the the thought that where the indicatiors slide onto the headlight bracket that that was differant, but from what ive just been told, im wrong! haha, mine could have been bent, ahwell

[NeedVtec]

Sorry EJ1. Just had to ask..

Croolies, How are the headlights different. Cosmetic or structurally?
Interested to know for future reference. Thanks

The corner lights are different from the hatch and sedan.

ie. Amber corners from an EG hatch will not fit on the sedan variant

pretty sure, the headlight might be a tad longer iirc.

dont quote me on this though.

[PGB]

Yeah the corner lamp issue is pretty well documented. I've done a hatch conversion myself with the headlights that were on the car. Curious to know if when buying another set of headlights is it going to throw out my fitment.
Sorry again Ej1 but I guess this info will be useful to you I guess :)

Edit: Sorry Croolies, Didnt see your reply there dude. Anyone want to measure the width of thier hatch headlights for knowledge sake? lol

[NeedVtec]

Alright

just did a bit of a search

all eg/eh headlights are the same, only problems are the corners.

[EJ1]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/croolies/13th155.jpg

yea ok the pictures from a b16 sol, but that doesnt matter two circled pieces, i havent really played with a EK front end, but i beleave they have a metal bracket(with polystyrene foam) for bumper support) EG chassis doesnt have this, and dont put a sedan EG front on, Hatch fronts are so much nicer

also the top section actually goes right to the guards aswell, for got to highlight them

and for a poster up the chain, EG headlights are differeant between Hatch and sedan also (not by much)

random fact, that delsol was towed 200km by a caravan whilst in 1st gear, would have been forced to do like 1500rpm :(

still good for pedal box and manual conversion parts for ($20) **** i love NZ :)

It could then come back to guard issues couldn't it not necessarily the corner indicators?

Thanks for the picture croolies I was assuming that's what you meant by the radiator support... top and bottom. All this information is great and I'm learning more as the days progress.

Managed to find a EJ8 with the D16 which the owner is willing to swap as well as a cash adjustment my way. Will probably do the B16A2 conversion as soon as I receive the car with the cash adjustment I'll be receiving, I'm assuming loom, engine and gearbox will be some of the parts required correct? Could anyone steer me in the right direction with this conversion and possibly providing some information and a link to a thread which this conversion has been performed on.

Best regards and thanks for everyone's input and help.

[oemjdmftw]

I know this is a late reply.

But the EJ1 is essentially a Japanese designed car. the rear is almost identical to the eg8/eg9 except for the boot, and the front end is the same as a eg6.
The em1 however only shares the front end to the EK1/EK5

[84AAP]

EJ1's are rarer than seeing a monkey have sex with a frog, Iv seen it once! EG8 CIVIC may be able to help you out when it comes to talking bout EJ1's, he owns one...

[EJ1]

Thanks for the responses guys appreciate it a lot!

[cihanvtec]

theres one for sale in melb at a workshop in my area. right hand drive, rolling shell, hit from the front.. wish i had some extra cashh!!!