View Full Version : 200,000km major service
blabla
22-05-2012, 08:52 PM
Hey,
Can someone tell me what is involved in a 200,000km major service.
Car: 1996 ej8 civic coupe
Motor: b16a2
Thanks ahead.
hmetro24
22-05-2012, 08:58 PM
Timing belt water pump tensioner, thermostat coolant oil, oil filter, air filter, sparks you can do a clean up for ivac ,throttle body , check idle, tappets. Check brakes, pads, brakes oil transmission fluid , tyres wheel alignment ...
blabla
22-05-2012, 09:32 PM
Is there more what would be done by Honda.
kirin
22-05-2012, 09:33 PM
You're planning to do it yourself ?
blabla
22-05-2012, 09:40 PM
You're planning to do it yourself ?
Nope, I gave a few places a call today and it all different depending on who you call. Honda wants 1024, hannys around the same, my mechanic for my misses car said around the 800 mark, but the thing is I would like to gets done for piece of mind.
kirin
22-05-2012, 09:46 PM
Fair enough. Hannys is pretty honest IMO.
They wont do anything that is not necessary and only charge for the work the do, nothing extra.
Just my experience.
blabla
23-05-2012, 09:25 AM
A list of what is exactly done would be appriciated....
mocchi
23-05-2012, 09:30 AM
A list of what is exactly done would be appriciated....
a quick read in your owner or service manual would be appriciated....
blabla
23-05-2012, 09:42 AM
a quick read in your owner or service manual would be appriciated....
Ye did that doesnt give much.. thats why i posted... as previsouly stated in my other post.. Everyone that i call does it differently, so which is the correct way.
Honda dont change the water pump, hanny's change the water pump, hannys change cam shaft seals, honda dont
do you see where I am going with this???
mocchi
23-05-2012, 09:47 AM
Ye did that doesnt give much.. thats why i posted... as previsouly stated in my other post.. Everyone that i call does it differently, so which is the correct way.
Honda dont change the water pump, hanny's change the water pump, hannys change cam shaft seals, honda dont
do you see where I am going with this???
what make is your car?
mocchi
23-05-2012, 09:50 AM
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here you go byuddy.
i hope you can read this one
blabla
23-05-2012, 09:59 AM
what make is your car?
Car: 1996 ej8 civic coupe
Motor: b16a2
blabla
23-05-2012, 11:33 AM
anyone else?
mocchi
23-05-2012, 11:55 AM
Ye did that doesnt give much.. thats why i posted... as previsouly stated in my other post.. Everyone that i call does it differently, so which is the correct way.
Honda dont change the water pump, hanny's change the water pump, hannys change cam shaft seals, honda dont
do you see where I am going with this???
well considering hanny's made your car, i think it would make sense to follow hanny's suggestion.
ohwait
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Bludger
23-05-2012, 12:09 PM
anyone else?
you trolling or what?
curtis265
23-05-2012, 12:51 PM
anyone else?
moite
mochi posted what needs to be done as a standard recommendation by the manufacturer
You are free to do more or less as you wish. Some places will do other things based on their experiences etc. I would trust Hannys.
If you like, we can list ever single possible problem for you and recommend replacing everything, just to play with your balls if you like.
p3akin
23-05-2012, 12:54 PM
if hannys changes more stuff than honda and its roughly the same cost. go hannys
blabla
23-05-2012, 12:56 PM
honda services theory was if it aint broke don't fix it.. I would prefer not to say which place said this.
curtis265
23-05-2012, 01:00 PM
honda services theory was if it aint broke don't fix it.. I would prefer not to say which place said this.
interesting. that's really bad. I thought they always try to sell you things you don't need :S
do you have ties with them?
blabla
23-05-2012, 01:10 PM
interesting. that's really bad. I thought they always try to sell you things you don't need :S
do you have ties with them?
Na i dont. I just don't want to slander them
Bludger
23-05-2012, 02:10 PM
honda services theory was if it aint broke don't fix it.. I would prefer not to say which place said this.
mate, if you have the theory of replacing everything that doesn't need replacing, why don't you just replace every serviceable part then?
^^
please answer.....
and as for sending offensive pm's to people who are genuinely trying to help you?
get fkd m8
mocchi
23-05-2012, 02:20 PM
inb4anyoneelse
blabla
23-05-2012, 02:28 PM
Close this ****ing thread! Sick of these ozhonda wankers
Bludger
23-05-2012, 02:31 PM
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mocchi
23-05-2012, 02:34 PM
y u mad bro?
gave you service manual on what honda recommends at 200k kms service interval and you tell me to piss off.
blabla pls
simmy
23-05-2012, 02:36 PM
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blabla
23-05-2012, 02:39 PM
just close the thread.
Bludger
23-05-2012, 02:44 PM
mate, if you have the theory of replacing everything that doesn't need replacing, why don't you just replace every serviceable part then?
^^
please answer.....
still need to answer this before close m8.
blabla
23-05-2012, 02:51 PM
still need to answer this before close m8.
the answer would then why does hanny's change it when it doesn't need it then?
Bludger
23-05-2012, 02:54 PM
the answer would then why does hanny's change it when it doesn't need it then?
make more money.
blabla
23-05-2012, 03:04 PM
going to my local mechanics does the same for less thanks close thread
curtis265
23-05-2012, 03:04 PM
the answer would then why does hanny's change it when it doesn't need it then?
clearly, they are a bunch of scammers.
You can ask them not to if you have an issue with it
mocchi
23-05-2012, 03:13 PM
Nope, I gave a few places a call today and it all different depending on who you call. Honda wants 1024, hannys around the same, my mechanic for my misses car said around the 800 mark, but the thing is I would like to gets done for piece of mind.
A list of what is exactly done would be appriciated....
Ye did that doesnt give much.. thats why i posted... as previsouly stated in my other post.. Everyone that i call does it differently, so which is the correct way.
Honda dont change the water pump, hanny's change the water pump, hannys change cam shaft seals, honda dont
do you see where I am going with this???
honda services theory was if it aint broke don't fix it.. I would prefer not to say which place said this.
the answer would then why does hanny's change it when it doesn't need it then?
going to my local mechanics does the same for less thanks close thread
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NeedVtec
23-05-2012, 03:33 PM
hi bloke
can you pm me your local mechanic who does it cheaper, my major is coming up.
regards,
ezio
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infurNOS
23-05-2012, 06:16 PM
Im just pissing myself at all the bouncing ducks with the crowns
ROFL.
OP you can lock thread yourself if you do not want anymore people commenting/
Vvvtec
23-05-2012, 06:56 PM
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here you go byuddy.
i hope you can read this one
anyone else?
seriously? what more do you want? someone to give you a backrub while they change your sparkplugs?
Motsi
23-05-2012, 07:43 PM
Here goes for my 2 cents.
Full major service: Oil, oil filter, air filter, fuel filter, Throttle body clean, adjust tappets, clean IACV. as for replacing the water pump if it was at 100,000 i personally would inspect and go from there, but at 200,000km if it still had the original water pump in it id definitely change it as its rare for anycar to go to the next major which is 300,000km without the water pump deciding to spit it. Tensioner id definitely replace. Its all a peace of mind thing at the end of the day. And quit the bitching......if you didnt want opinions about what should be done and whats included in the service dont ask the question.
Bludger
23-05-2012, 07:47 PM
Here goes for my 2 cents.
Full major service: Oil, oil filter, air filter, fuel filter, Throttle body clean, adjust tappets, clean IACV. as for replacing the water pump if it was at 100,000 i personally would inspect and go from there, but at 200,000km if it still had the original water pump in it id definitely change it as its rare for anycar to go to the next major which is 300,000km without the water pump deciding to spit it. Tensioner id definitely replace. Its all a peace of mind thing at the end of the day. And quit the bitching......if you didnt want opinions about what should be done and whats included in the service dont ask the question.
water pump only spits it if you lax on the coolant changes in my experience.
Bulbasaur
23-05-2012, 07:49 PM
seriously? what more do you want? someone to give you a backrub while they change your sparkplugs?
i could give you a backrub while you change your spark plugs mate. pm me for further details
Vvvtec
23-05-2012, 07:54 PM
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here you go byuddy.
i hope you can read this one
anyone else?
i could give you a backrub while you change your spark plugs mate. pm me for further details
Already getting serviced by CB Auto's
impossi13le
23-05-2012, 08:25 PM
I'd go with hannys. Say Honda or whoever you get your car serviced with doesn't change your water pump, because either you requested not to or they don't think it needs replacing, and 2000km later it clonks out. You'd be paying for labour cost of removing timing belt just so you can access the water pump. If hannys can do all that Goethe same price as Honda but with more items, why not. Personal insurance IMO
TranceZiggy
24-05-2012, 02:00 PM
Just take it someone you trust, give them your maintenance schedule & say you want it done by the book (also known as a log book service - this is not only for cars under warranty).. The schedule details everything that needs to be done and even if you can't read it, they will be able to. You would expect Honda to do everything by the book, but in reality, from what i've seen, they over charge & under service. The only time you (well, *I*)deal with Honda is when you want OEM parts or an entirely new car straight off the production line.. For anything else, find an independent mechanic with real, honest experience.
Motsi
25-05-2012, 06:35 PM
hey BLUDGER.....with the whole coolant ruins water pumps i can and cant agree. i agree that not changing the coolant will somewhat determine the lifespan of the water pump but having been a mechanic for almost 15 years now i see cars that are 1-2 yrs old that require water pumps replacing due to premature wear. Namely Holden alloytecs are what i see. so for me id have to disagree on the whole keeping the coolant up to scratch to save your water pump. Youd also have to take into account that waterpumps run bearing and seals in them and it only takes a car to overheat good and proper to harden the seal in a waterpump and cause it to start leaking!! Im just talking from personal experience over my time as a day to day mechanic! not pun intended to anyone and not trying to sound like a hot head!
Bludger
25-05-2012, 06:43 PM
hey BLUDGER.....with the whole coolant ruins water pumps i can and cant agree. i agree that not changing the coolant will somewhat determine the lifespan of the water pump but having been a mechanic for almost 15 years now i see cars that are 1-2 yrs old that require water pumps replacing due to premature wear. Namely Holden alloytecs are what i see. so for me id have to disagree on the whole keeping the coolant up to scratch to save your water pump. Youd also have to take into account that waterpumps run bearing and seals in them and it only takes a car to overheat good and proper to harden the seal in a waterpump and cause it to start leaking!! Im just talking from personal experience over my time as a day to day mechanic! not pun intended to anyone and not trying to sound like a hot head!
no problem m8.
I'm just a nobody that gives my own personal experience.
so your 15 years as a pro > me.
personally I'm in two mind.
if on a budget and it's still goos, then leave it.
if money don't matter so much then replacing it while the timing belt is out is a good idea too.
either way works for me.:)
Motsi
25-05-2012, 06:50 PM
yeah and i agree with you on the whole if it aint broke dont fix it saga! well said
amant02
25-05-2012, 07:10 PM
I reckon if your already there, might as well do it. Think about the hassles it can cause later, and it will save you too much time later. Can we really put $ figure on time? Specially on higher KM cars, even if I'm broke ill still do w/e I can on the budget.
Just do it right the 1st time around.
migoreng
26-05-2012, 07:45 PM
Timing belt water pump tensioner, thermostat coolant oil, oil filter, air filter, sparks you can do a clean up for ivac ,throttle body , check idle, tappets. Check brakes, pads, brakes oil transmission fluid , tyres wheel alignment ...
200k is timing belt and relevant parts.
Brake fluid/transmission/ fuel filter etc should have been done around 180,000. Wheel alignment?
That can be done any time.
mugen_ctr
26-05-2012, 07:51 PM
IMO if ur doin the belt, water pump etc etc, and its sitting at 200,000kms replace the crank seal as well, as its gonna b a bitch later on if it starts leaking.... its known to happen, but again it may not leak at all in the future so 50/50, but like all things its gonna break eventually
migoreng
26-05-2012, 07:57 PM
Yes. When the timing belt is off, change ALL front seals. Those rubber seals should be good for 5 years/100,000km.
They won't leak straight away at 5 years. Maybe 6th year or so.
mugen_ctr
26-05-2012, 08:01 PM
i find it strange that honda doesnt mention anything about replacing those seals as major service especially if its sitting at that age or kms
Or do they actually change the seals without u knowing when goin in for the major service at Honda?
trism
26-05-2012, 09:53 PM
Its normally a given. Them seals come with a timing belt kit.
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