View Full Version : Hydro Vtir and Cable GSI gearbox internals swapable?
SLOBRO
30-05-2012, 10:51 PM
Hey guys just wanted to ask if the Hydro Vtir and Cable GSI gearbox internals are swapable?
Thanks
SLOBRO
30-05-2012, 11:07 PM
anyone? lol
SLOBRO
31-05-2012, 07:29 AM
hmmmm :)
infurNOS
31-05-2012, 05:53 PM
no idea lol
post up on www.honda-tech.com, they may know.
GSi_PSi
31-05-2012, 05:58 PM
there is no such thing as a cable gsi gearbox
only da9 cable gearbox b18a1
and yes they are interchangeable
bitch ass
mooshie
31-05-2012, 10:06 PM
Early model cable gearboxes from the CRX and DA9-6 with S1,Y1,J1 designations are not fully interchangeable with the hydro internals although some parts may swap over. A YS1 housing from the 92-93 DA is the only cable housing that can take hydro internals although it will take a bit of modification(shaving internal ribs)to fit the diff/final drive.
Anyway, your question is confusing.. The GSi and VTiR both have hydro gearboxes.
All B-series gearboxes will bolt on to any B engine, just need to get the right clutch to fit the different spline on the input shaft that the early versions have compared to the 92 onwards boxes, plus the different type of clutch actuation obviously but this relates to chassis not engine.
What are you looking to do?
SLOBRO
01-06-2012, 12:54 AM
thanks everyone
SLOBRO
01-06-2012, 01:08 AM
Early model cable gearboxes from the CRX and DA9-6 with S1,Y1,J1 designations are not fully interchangeable with the hydro internals although some parts may swap over. A YS1 housing from the 92-93 DA is the only cable housing that can take hydro internals although it will take a bit of modification(shaving internal ribs)to fit the diff/final drive.
Anyway, your question is confusing.. The GSi and VTiR both have hydro gearboxes.
All B-series gearboxes will bolt on to any B engine, just need to get the right clutch to fit the different spline on the input shaft that the early versions have compared to the 92 onwards boxes, plus the different type of clutch actuation obviously but this relates to chassis not engine.
What are you looking to do?
http://www.knology.net/jediklc/gearatiosbseries.htm
looking at this site the older vtir box the YS1 has similar 1st, 2nd and 3rd as the 98+ type r box and better 4th and 5th
i wanted to swap these into my 99 vtir S80 box and at the same time getting LSD and 4.9 Final drive
thanx for your help :)
mooshie
01-06-2012, 07:42 AM
I was gonna post that link!
The YS1 on that sheet is not relating to the US VTiR version. YS1 boxes only came in the gen 2 integras.
Anyhow, if you did want to use those internals then yes they would fit. You would be going with very old stuff however and it would need a full refresh costing a lot!
SLOBRO
01-06-2012, 10:05 PM
so which model integras have the YS1 box in aussie
gen2 CRX
01-06-2012, 10:59 PM
The YS1 gearbox is found in the 92-93 DA9/DA6 Integra. The YS1 is basically a hydraulic 92-00 b series gearbox in cable form and is the only cable box that will except the hydraulic internals. The DA9 YS1 has the DC4 GSi gear set (long ratio) and the JDM DA6 YS1 has the EG6/EK4 gear set (short ratio). There is no way to identify a short ratio and a long ratio YS1 without opening up the gearbox and the short ratio is even more rare as the DA6 was not Aus delivered, So if you do find a YS1 it will most likely have worse gear ratios then your DC2 Vtir gearbox.
SLOBRO
01-06-2012, 11:04 PM
lol dam ok thank man
gen2 CRX
01-06-2012, 11:19 PM
http://www.knology.net/jediklc/gearatiosbseries.htm
looking at this site the older vtir box the YS1 has similar 1st, 2nd and 3rd as the 98+ type r box and better 4th and 5th
i wanted to swap these into my 99 vtir S80 box and at the same time getting LSD and 4.9 Final drive
thanx for your help :)
You basically are saying you want a hydro B16A gearbox with 4.9 final drive and LSD. B16A 5TH with a 4.9 final drive will suck on the motorway. Stick with your Vti-r 5th.
SLOBRO
01-06-2012, 11:51 PM
yea haha 5th will be sitting at 4000 rpm and yes i think thats exactly wat i'm looking to do soo will need a B16 box, LSD and 4.9 and don't need to worry bout highway driving lol no licence for a while and its a track only car so yea thanks for helpin out US and Aus specs get confusing a little
ericl33
05-06-2012, 11:20 PM
Early model cable gearboxes from the CRX and DA9-6 with S1,Y1,J1 designations are not fully interchangeable with the hydro internals although some parts may swap over. A YS1 housing from the 92-93 DA is the only cable housing that can take hydro internals although it will take a bit of modification(shaving internal ribs)to fit the diff/final drive.
Anyway, your question is confusing.. The GSi and VTiR both have hydro gearboxes.
All B-series gearboxes will bolt on to any B engine, just need to get the right clutch to fit the different spline on the input shaft that the early versions have compared to the 92 onwards boxes, plus the different type of clutch actuation obviously but this relates to chassis not engine.
What are you looking to do?
you still got that cable box?
needing it soon.
lol
mooshie
06-06-2012, 08:51 PM
Sure! Was thinking about taking the 5th from it and putting it in my YS1 with TypeR internals to give me the slightly lower cruising revs but not looking to do anything just yet. Will still have it for a while! I did pull it apart and just chucked it back together so it would need to be checked and new seals etc.
ericl33
07-06-2012, 10:31 PM
how much to syd?
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