More power please for a Euro 06 (AUTO)

[z0kkie]

Hey All,

Had my Euro for a while but and haven't done anything to it... any ideas how i can get a bit more power from it?

I'm a total n00b so I'll be taking it somewhere in Sydney to get installed.

Thanks,
z0kkie

[Fredoops]

Mines an auto.

I got intake header and CAT. As well as a bunch of chassis mods.

[DakDak]

If you wish to stay Naturally Aspirated

Cold Air Intake,
Headers
3 inch Hi Flow Catalytic converter to 3 inch system
RBC or RRC manifold with 70mm throttle body. ensure IM is bored out to TB
Hondata K-PRO
K20A2 50deg VTC
Lightened flywheel if an auto car uses one.

=High 140-ish ATW

Internals-
Camshafts
Valve Springs and retainers
Hi-Comp pistons and Rods

Or forced induction.
Centrifugal Supercharger
Aftermarket turbo kit

[z0kkie]

Thanks guys...

I probably should have been more specific, especially when it comes to budget. As much has I'd love to have a bucket load of extra power, unfortunately, i also do have a very strict budget.

I was thinking only putting in about 1k... I know it's not much, but i'm not going to be taking it to the track or racing anyone...

z0kkie

[Fredoops]

For $1k:

Headers
High flow cat
Intake

Thats about it.

[DakDak]

1K wont get you far.
My personal experience - Get a lightened flywheel if its possible. Way bigger gain than headers,hi-flow cat and intake untuned. Less noisey too.

[chauster]

1k? Get an intake you'll feel more response. Then put the rest in the bank and save more money.

[z0kkie]

Thanks for the honesty,

recommendations on intakes?
and
where can i go to get it installed in Sydney? (i'm a total n00b)

also, spark plugs make any difference?

z0kkie

[DakDak]

CAI- is better and more risky for hydrolock.
SRI- not as good but little risk of hydrolock.

I'll install it for you. In return for some McDonalds. =]

Dont worry about spark plugs. Just stick with OEM and replace them if you've reached the interval.

[curtis265]

IMO spark plugs are a waste of time unless there's aproblem with yours (i.e. not igniting the fuel properly), in which case you'd feel ultraslow and have a lot of popping and fuel smell from all the unburned fuel exiting the exhaust


for the intake it's probably a 'get together with mates' thing, it's pretty simplistic. Any mechanic should be able to do it though

[ChaosMaster]

Euro's are running the iridium sparks already, so really there's no upgrade above them unless you want to do the coils and firing system. If your new to tuning, I'ld say go for more torque. Try grabbing a Comptech IceBox instead of a CAI, will give more torque than power, but it's more usable. I wouldn't bother with the exhaust unless you want more sound, the stock system isn't that restrictive to begin with. If anything, headers would give a decent gain. With headers, your going to have to get an exhaust shop to install for ya. With the IceBox, you could DIY, there are threads that will show you how to install it yourself, or you could find someone off Ozhonda who'ld do it cheaper than an actual shop.

[Ando.L]

Thanks for the honesty,

recommendations on intakes?
and
where can i go to get it installed in Sydney? (i'm a total n00b

Injen CAI (whats with the 5 minimum character b*%!$^#t)

also, spark plugs make any difference?

z0kkie

Injen CAI its easy to install yourself comes with instructions. But if your not confident then get a someone who knows what their doing

[tony1234]

Euro's are running the iridium sparks already, so really there's no upgrade above them unless you want to do the coils and firing system. If your new to tuning, I'ld say go for more torque. Try grabbing a Comptech IceBox instead of a CAI, will give more torque than power, but it's more usable. I wouldn't bother with the exhaust unless you want more sound, the stock system isn't that restrictive to begin with. If anything, headers would give a decent gain. With headers, your going to have to get an exhaust shop to install for ya. With the IceBox, you could DIY, there are threads that will show you how to install it yourself, or you could find someone off Ozhonda who'ld do it cheaper than an actual shop.

^^^As above.Headers will give you the most gains for 1K then icebox if you have spare cash.Forget the CAI you lose low down torque and gain a bit in the upper rev range

[ChaosMaster]

I should also add, since your car is an 06 model, I'm assuming it's the facelifted one, which has a 400 Cell Cat from my memory, which isn't that bad. If it's a prefacelift, then it'ld have a 900 cell cat which is very restrictive, and changing that would give some gains as well. With a 400 Cell, I'ld say save your money, it's not worth it. As for a flywheel, which Dak has recommended, that will improve your engine's response, but won't do anything to increase your actual power. When Dak says bigger gains, he just means more noticeable difference/improvement vs 2hp gained @tw. Most of your 1k would go to labour though.

[Fredoops]

I should also add, since your car is an 06 model, I'm assuming it's the facelifted one, which has a 400 Cell Cat from my memory, which isn't that bad. If it's a prefacelift, then it'ld have a 900 cell cat which is very restrictive, and changing that would give some gains as well. With a 400 Cell, I'ld say save your money, it's not worth it. As for a flywheel, which Dak has recommended, that will improve your engine's response, but won't do anything to increase your actual power. When Dak says bigger gains, he just means more noticeable difference/improvement vs 2hp gained @tw. Most of your 1k would go to labour though.

flywheel on an auto? i dont remember you can do that.....

lightened pully could help.

[DakDak]

I should also add, since your car is an 06 model, I'm assuming it's the facelifted one, which has a 400 Cell Cat from my memory, which isn't that bad. If it's a prefacelift, then it'ld have a 900 cell cat which is very restrictive, and changing that would give some gains as well. With a 400 Cell, I'ld say save your money, it's not worth it. As for a flywheel, which Dak has recommended, that will improve your engine's response, but won't do anything to increase your actual power. When Dak says bigger gains, he just means more noticeable difference/improvement vs 2hp gained @tw. Most of your 1k would go to labour though.

Must spread rep around before giving to Chaosmaster again.


flywheel on an auto? i dont remember you can do that.....

lightened pully could help.

Its also called a flexplate. Tell you the truth Im not too sure but if it can be done it'd be the first thing I'd do.

Yea lightened pulley will definitely help. If I could replay time I would remove parasitic loss before considering IHE

[sodaz]

Can't do lightweight flywheel on an auto. Get lightweight pulleys instead.

Auto will make 7-10kw less atw than a manual due to drive-train loss.

[ChaosMaster]

Yeah, true. No flywheel on an Auto. Forgot to mention that, was just explaining what Dak meant by gains. Pulley could work, but depending which set, do note that your alternator maybe running a lower ratio thus making less power than it normally would. Just means that if you drive it short distances, you may want to charge your battery yourself every once in a while.

[Fredoops]

Yeah, true. No flywheel on an Auto. Forgot to mention that, was just explaining what Dak meant by gains. Pulley could work, but depending which set, do note that your alternator maybe running a lower ratio thus making less power than it normally would. Just means that if you drive it short distances, you may want to charge your battery yourself every once in a while.


I was talking lightened pulley, not lightened + underdriven pulleys.
They are 2 different things.