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GU357
20-06-2012, 04:30 PM
Hey as some know i have been using my dads jazz for some time now, and some ppl said it would be good to go for a different car rather then continuing to ball a CVT GD3.

so I've found a EG6, but as ive never bought a second hand car before im looking for tips, like problems that are known and have a big effect on the cars performance and reliability.

The price is reasonable but there are 2 faults he has told me of (may be other hidden ones)
1st is the the CEL light comes on after driving it for a while, he says that his mechanic reckons its the O2 sensor in the exhaust, and once it warms up it sends dodgy info back.
2nd the Cluster reads 10km+ the actual speed so u have do 60km/h on cluster to do 50km/h real speed.

Are these major issues? easy to fix?

thanks in advance.
im taking a look at the car this friday. So any help is much appreciated.

EKVTIR-T
20-06-2012, 04:32 PM
Can you PM me link to the car? I can see if it looks dodgy for you

GU357
20-06-2012, 04:34 PM
the paint is pretty dodgey (not a big deal thinking of sanding and wrapping) and the interior is starting to die but im going to source some new door sills.
but for the price it looks decent, but i dunno.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mandurah/cars/honda-civic-hatchback-b16-vtec/1003487191

dorikin
20-06-2012, 04:42 PM
lol that's not an EG6. do you even know what an EG6 is?

curtis265
20-06-2012, 04:44 PM
check for

remaining accident damage

revs history

get a compression test

it seems ok, i think it's worth taking to a mechanic for a proper inspection. (i was going to recommend cypher but zack's no longer around :( )

GU357
20-06-2012, 04:44 PM
well i thought it was but if it isnt, could u enlighten me. seems i have much to learn. it says b16 so i thought that would make it an EG6 as i heard somewhere only EG6's had them or something like that

curtis265
20-06-2012, 04:46 PM
well i thought it was but if it isnt, could u enlighten me. seems i have much to learn. it says b16 so i thought that would make it an EG6 as i heard somewhere only EG6's had them or something like that

it's a swap

actual eg6's are rare

GU357
20-06-2012, 04:57 PM
ok that was gonna be my next guess. but seemed just as unlikely why swap the d series to just a b16? is it common? i would of expected to go all the way like b18, but im not sure of the legalities.

CRXDEL501
20-06-2012, 05:00 PM
B series eg for that cheap doesn't seem right

GU357
20-06-2012, 05:02 PM
B series eg for that cheap doesn't seem right

thats my other concern is it too cheap?
but looking at the condition of the exterior it makes me think thats the reason.
but im also just being wishful

EKVTIR-T
20-06-2012, 05:03 PM
As said,its just a swap. Looks pretty rough but could clean up ok with some work

You could do an ecu error code check to see what shows up just to have a better idea and to confirm his claims

If its chassis and major mechanicals are fine then shoot for 2k and go from there

mocchi
20-06-2012, 05:03 PM
ok that was gonna be my next guess. but seemed just as unlikely why swap the d series to just a b16? is it common? i would of expected to go all the way like b18, but im not sure of the legalities.

buy a clean car, dont buy some banged up EG. even though its old car it can be a nice daily if treated with some good common sense.
i dont think you should buy the gumtree one.

well maybe owner thought b16 was better than jdm d15b, and cost wise cheaper than a c2/7.
inb4 infracted. ohwait.

CRXDEL501
20-06-2012, 05:07 PM
Agree with mocchi

I wouldn't buy it either

Spend a bit more and get something more worth the $$

GU357
20-06-2012, 05:11 PM
As said,its just a swap. Looks pretty rough but could clean up ok with some work

You could do an ecu error code check to see what shows up just to have a better idea and to confirm his claims

If its chassis and major mechanicals are fine then shoot for 2k and go from there

unless im mistaken this EG would have an OBD1, so would i use the CEL light counting method to check codes or is there an easier way.

EKVTIR-T
20-06-2012, 05:13 PM
Yeah same process

GU357
20-06-2012, 05:19 PM
so given that its the o2 sensor i should expect either 1 or 2 quick flashes yeah.
1 O2A - Oxygen sensor #1
2 O2B - Oxygen sensor #2
ill see how i go, and keep u posted.
chances are i wont get it. but if it really is a straight chassis and just a faulty o2 sensor i will give it serious thought

also anyone have any ideas for the cluster that over reads?

curtis265
20-06-2012, 05:21 PM
ok that was gonna be my next guess. but seemed just as unlikely why swap the d series to just a b16? is it common? i would of expected to go all the way like b18, but im not sure of the legalities.

because b16's are a cheaper

DreadAngel
20-06-2012, 05:56 PM
Its anyone's guess, but if the swap is old...

B16A were a much cheaper alternative than the B18C back in the day so unless you could fork out the big premium for B18C swap, you simply went with a B16A swap.

connorling
20-06-2012, 07:31 PM
Being in wa, b18 swap is hell expensive.

Hence people went for b16a few years back.

white_ep3_civic
21-06-2012, 03:59 PM
it's a swap

actual eg6's are rare

Are there even any EG6's in Aus?

grifty
21-06-2012, 04:04 PM
Are there even any EG6's in Aus?

sure are, not alot though.....

NightKids
22-06-2012, 12:19 PM
Don't buy that car man, wait for a cleaner example.

Indie
22-06-2012, 03:39 PM
This is a beaten-up piece of shit. Buy a clean, stock example for a similar price, or spend more on a swapped car.

GU357
22-06-2012, 04:58 PM
it is a swapped car?

MWAKU
22-06-2012, 06:00 PM
i personally think you should buy it for 1.5k :). all those problems are easy fixes and its a 18y/o car, what more can u expect. depending on the purposes for buying this car, go have a look to see if you can drive this thing daily without major issues, find out how strong the motor actually still is, because everything aside, if ur going to buy ANY 18/yo there are bound to be problems, regardless of engine life (being swapped or not), everything else on that car is nearly 20 years old. its always a risk, so figure it out, and sort out a reasonable price on the car. that's considering if you can be bothered to fix problems... if u can't, dont buy it.

GU357
22-06-2012, 08:49 PM
inspected the car today, it pulls good and the mechanical records were pretty good, but he said there was some foaming or something in the radiator. which might mean head gasket issues. how much is that to fix? to get an idea of how much less to pay, the body is in pretty good condition other then the paint.

muzukashi
23-06-2012, 12:20 AM
Anything under the 2k mark sounds like a good snap but each to their own and personal preference will play a part here as some people would prefer to buy clean examples and add the extra 2-3k ontop of market value while others don't mind the discrepancies and want to get away with a bargain price

I'd suggest you check out the head gasket issue further if you are really considering buying it as from my experiences head gaskets issues are headaches and expensive
None the less if you think its mechanically good-to-go, dont mind the rough body and fits what your after then i would say give him an offer of 1.7~9k and if he is cool with that then done deal :)

curtis265
23-06-2012, 12:52 AM
head gaskets are aroudn 1k unless you can DIY

MWAKU
23-06-2012, 02:19 AM
lol what an honest seller. imo now, don't even bother. sounds like too much work to own. its ok if u think like, yeah ill just fix all these current problems full stop. but in the case that something keeps occurring every few months, you'll wish you didn't buy it so yeah up. up to your discretion .

GU357
23-06-2012, 02:48 AM
yeh hes very upfront, ill get some quotes if its too expensive then ill just leave it.

GU357
23-06-2012, 04:12 AM
also are all the b16 head gaskets the same?
or does a b16a5 require a particular gasket?

dougie_504
23-06-2012, 09:43 AM
All same head gaskets.

connorling
23-06-2012, 12:19 PM
dont forget the paint works as well, u did say the paint is no good?
that cost a lot to paint in perth as i am still trying to find a paint shop within my reasonable budget.

curtis265
23-06-2012, 12:26 PM
DIY paint time

GU357
26-06-2012, 09:40 PM
i actually know a paint shop that are very resonably priced and the guy that runs it is like a condition nazi, he refuses to do patch ups, he always fixes it properly before painting.

SU-WOOP
29-06-2012, 01:21 AM
send me your jazz and ill send you my eg with the all the eg6 options and almost all the gathers options and honda acsess options

GU357
29-06-2012, 02:02 AM
... i already bought this EG dammit. plus i cant go sending that jazz off my mum wants it now :/ so i had to buy another car and got that eg for 2grand. will let myy dad do the headgasket, hes a mechanic i just dont like to trouble him usually.

mocchi
29-06-2012, 09:49 AM
... i already bought this EG dammit. plus i cant go sending that jazz off my mum wants it now :/ so i had to buy another car and got that eg for 2grand. will let myy dad do the headgasket, hes a mechanic i just dont like to trouble him usually.

you should start a build thread! hahah should be good fun DIY buddy
plus, it can centralise all your questions and or pics

GU357
30-06-2012, 02:18 AM
i cant post a thread in there for some reason, will check it out more tomorrow, and try keeping log of all my accomplishments.

GU357
30-06-2012, 03:56 AM
ok its made: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?165633-My-EG
already in need of assistance ahaha

dougie_504
02-07-2012, 11:02 PM
Have moved your other thread to the Build section. Will close this one and you can use your build thread from now on :)