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95331140
08-08-2012, 09:32 PM
New images just released of the new USA Accord:

Read the article here:
http://www.insideline.com/honda/accord/2013/2013-honda-accord-gets-new-look-smaller-size.html

The beginning of the turnaround! Now with Direct Injection and CVT.

Looks smart....I like

ctx
08-08-2012, 09:53 PM
I like everything about it. Looks very Honda-ey. Can't wait to see it VIP'd in black :p

chunky
08-08-2012, 09:58 PM
honda's turning into toyota

YOanthony
08-08-2012, 10:29 PM
honda's turning into toyota
dat rear looks Camry. :/

Front looks good though.

CarAdvice
09-08-2012, 09:55 AM
The new Honda Accord sedan will be roughly 70mm shorter than before, which Honda says makes it easier to park and creates a “sportier driving character”, while smarter interior packaging means there is actually more passenger space in the cabin and more room for luggage in the boot.

Honda has also redesigned the car’s 3.5-litre V6 petrol engine, setting its sights on becoming the class leader in efficiency while also offering more power than before (the current model produces 202kW/339Nm). The engine will come with the option of six-speed manual and automatic transmissions.

Launching in the US in the coming months, Honda Australia says the new Accord sedan will arrive in local showrooms in mid-2013. The North America-only Honda Accord Coupe, also revealed overnight, will not be sold here.

Article & Pics: http://www.caradvice.com.au/185445/honda-accord-smaller-sedan-coming-in-mid-2013/

CarAdvice
09-08-2012, 09:57 AM
The Coupe looks like a kia: http://www.caradvice.com.au/185456/honda-accord-coupe-first-look-at-us-only-two-door/

The new coupe shows Honda’s commitment to fresh design as it almost mirrors the Honda Accord Coupe concept car seen at the Detroit motor show in January.

The new Honda Accord Coupe heads into US showrooms later this year but will not reach Australian shores, leaving the all-new 2013 Honda Accord sedan to take centre stage when it lands in mid-2013.

VT3C
14-08-2012, 10:08 AM
not a whole lot different from the old model.. which I liked anyway :)

http://mycarblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/accord2.jpg

sensei_
14-08-2012, 02:01 PM
is it me or the rear corner tail lights remind me of the E class/sonata (esp at night) and viewed from the side

UNLS1
15-08-2012, 12:02 PM
hmmm to me it looks boring and will date very quickly. Ill wait to see it in the flesh. I see Honda has kept up with the most boring alloys ever!

Jasemas
15-08-2012, 04:10 PM
Not excited really
But the new power trains that theyve displayed/tested seem cool

Rage King
15-08-2012, 05:48 PM
Sedan looks likes around--er version of the current euro luxury..

But the coupe is one sexy muffakka!

The good thing is three versions of engine outputs which means a k20R transplant can be done and ditch that POS gas 2.0L hybrid version lol

Rudy
16-08-2012, 06:00 AM
I'm liking the 6 speed, smaller size, direct injection and more powerful v6, more gadgets...tempting

Leezozo
16-08-2012, 07:32 PM
Comments???

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp41/leezozo/HyundaivsHonda.jpg

ChaosMaster
16-08-2012, 08:08 PM
Looks typical US style car. More of a facelift than anything special. I don't mind it, but it's nothing to get excited about. And "Sporty" is about the last word in the US market, although having said that, I get the feeling Honda will eventually make an Accord for all markets instead of 2 accords (i.e. US accord and Accord Euro). Upgraded engine and they only finally caught up to Toyota's V6 which has been out for over half a decade. Should be able to do way better than that.

curtis265
21-08-2012, 01:23 PM
the epitome of boring and conservative..

then again the 320i and C200 are equally boring looking..

Hans Bond
22-08-2012, 10:21 AM
Another Camry/Hyundai-like Honda? :eek: I like the earlier version (2008 - 2010) better

Rudy
22-08-2012, 07:56 PM
the epitome of boring and conservative..



Thats always been what the accord is about though, never pushing the envelope...saw a recent post where someone compared the accords of yesteryear to the competitors at the time eg camry etc, and the accord was the only one that wouldn't look out of place on the road today, whereas the others age really badly. A currently example would be Hyundai design eg i45, which will go stale real quick imo.

Fredoops
23-08-2012, 01:31 AM
CVT...
After 10 million US auto tranny recalls. About time they get rid of that stupid "hondamatic" BS.

Still, This is about as exciting as the current Nissan Maxima, hell, even the drive train sounds similar.

SPQR
23-08-2012, 11:04 PM
Some more recent and better photos:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rMIVcPPyaSQ/UDB1_n8Mv2I/AAAAAAAAB7E/rFAgcjG33eY/s1600/2013-honda-accord-sedan-photo-front-bumper-side-profile.jpg

and

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-h8JnYmswrNw/UDB2CPAMmNI/AAAAAAAAB7g/tObtd8nlhko/s1600/2013-honda-accord-sedan-photo-wallpaper-looking-good-4cylinder-rear-balloons.jpg

Which all came from:

http://www.hondasacuras.com/2012/08/gallery-of-uncovered-accord-sedan-4cyl.html#!/2012/08/gallery-of-uncovered-accord-sedan-4cyl.html

SPQR
06-09-2012, 10:22 PM
More information from TOV:

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=1091517

138kW for the 2.4 I4 with 6-speed manual or CVT and 207kW for the 3.5 V6 6-speed auto in the USA. Also lots of goodies that we probably won't get in OZ.

Specifications at:

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=1091576

Photos at:

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=1091408

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=1091405

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=1091432

Wallpapers from here (multiple pages and resolutions):

http://www.netcarshow.com/honda/2013-accord/

Jasemas
06-09-2012, 10:46 PM
No double wish bone... Interesting to see how the handling quality goes

Fredoops
06-09-2012, 11:07 PM
http://sohc.vtec.net/article_files/1091432/13acc_phev_pr-007.jpg

OH SWEET MOTHER OF GOD THATS UGLY!!! WTF DID THEY DO TO THE GRILL?!?!?!

SPQR
06-09-2012, 11:54 PM
Which grille, the ordinary Accord grille or the plug-in hybrid grille?

Fredoops
06-09-2012, 11:59 PM
Which grille, the ordinary Accord grille or the plug-in hybrid grille?
whatever the hell that pic is.

SPQR
07-09-2012, 12:20 AM
Pic doesn't appear in my web browsers...

Fredoops
07-09-2012, 12:35 AM
Pic doesn't appear in my web browsers...

In here

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=1091432

sensei_
07-09-2012, 12:57 AM
the interior looks quite nice, but im finding it abit plastic-y

SPQR
08-09-2012, 07:43 PM
In here

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=1091432

That's the plug-in hybrid version. Its front end is completely different to the regular Accord and there are other body detail differences. I don't think OZ will get that one.

This is a pre test-drive embargo review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WF_gnkBOiE

This is some stock Honda footage of the new Accord: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwD7_aQFI8o&feature=related

A fanboy reviews: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpC8wOZBF5Y&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wdA16mwBpQ&feature=channel&list=UL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drJtEqFru_8&feature=channel&list=UL

We probably won't get all the goodies that the Americans get.



This is the new bigger Mazda 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tFEDcp2vGQ&feature=relmfu The Americans got a bigger version than the rest of the world of the current version and now it looks like everyone is getting the big version of the new one. The wheelbase is longer than the Accord and the Falcon.

ryaan
18-09-2012, 08:20 PM
cant believe it comes standard with 8" high res screen.... thats a first for this segment !

Hans Bond
26-09-2012, 01:25 PM
Tail light design for:
- Accord 2006-2007: similar to mercedes
- Accord 2008-2012: similar to BMW 7 Series
- Accord 2013-: back to mercedes - but this time more like toyota?

SPQR
16-12-2012, 08:08 PM
The new Accord is due in Australia in April-May 2013...Is everyone excited?

The Euro version is due in Australia in September-October 2013...Getting more excited.

95331140
17-12-2012, 05:59 AM
The Euro version is due in Australia in September-October 2013...Getting more excited.

I've heard nothing about a new Euro Accord overseas. In fact I've heard that they may not release a new version.
What is your source for the Euro?
I'm interested...

SPQR
17-12-2012, 11:02 AM
It's the Acura TSX they're thinking of phasing out towards the end of 2013 (there's a hint...). But the car is in reality the Accord for the rest of the world. Honda wouldn't get rid of this car for the rest of the world just because it sells in small numbers in the USA and nor would they substitute the very American style USA Accord for the rest of the world as it would flop stylistically. Except maybe in Russia.

It's likely that the Acura TSX will be phased out in the USA when it comes to the end of its model cycle and replaced with a downsized 'TLX'. This is estimated to occur in September-October 2013, which coincides with the release of the world Accord (Euro in OZ).

Apart from the logic above, I do have a good source.

Fredoops
17-12-2012, 12:14 PM
It's the Acura TSX they're thinking of phasing out towards the end of 2013 (there's a hint...). But the car is in reality the Accord for the rest of the world. Honda wouldn't get rid of this car for the rest of the world just because it sells in small numbers in the USA and nor would they substitute the very American style USA Accord for the rest of the world as it would flop stylistically. Except maybe in Russia.

It's likely that the Acura TSX will be phased out in the USA when it comes to the end of its model cycle and replaced with a downsized 'TLX'. This is estimated to occur in September-October 2013, which coincides with the release of the world Accord (Euro in OZ).

Apart from the logic above, I do have a good source.

Rest of the world? hardly, outside of Americas:

Europe:
Honda Europe is looking at discontinuing the Accord (Euro) form their range since sales had dropped to 2500 per YEAR in the UK for example (75% drop from 2005)

Hardly surprising since the Mid-size (or full size EU speak) sales had plummeted since the GFC in EU, also doesn't help when the c-segment sector is very crowded.

ASIA
Most either dont have the accord at all, or have the big accord

The only other country (apart for us) that sells the European Accord in numbers is China as the Honda Spirior (made locally). the Sprior sales were 50% below expectations (or more), 1500 cars a month is not enough to justify a whole assembly line.... Doesn't help when a Sprior cost almost the same as a BMW 3... in China.... Theres a lengthy discussion on a Chinese forum on the poor Honda Spirior sales (if you read Chinese) http://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thread-c-859-10088285-1.html

Russia is a wild card, however since Acura is in Russia now I dont see them having 2 premium mid-sizers cannibalising sales off each other.

Japan: they need to keep the nameplate alive somehow.

Africa
South Africa, 50 Accord Euros a month... hardly relevant.

Oceania
So that leaves Oceania (OZ/NZ), we probably consume more Accord Euros in a year than the entire EU over the past 2-3 years....


So this leaves the new model accord euro with 50% less expected demand on the Sayama Plant than the previous model (since US is going for a locally built TLX instead).

This would be a problem for Honda Australia, since the Euro had been their lifeline.

I have no doubt another Accord Euro would be made, it'll likely to be more JDM than ever, but unlikely to be a money maker.

antony
17-12-2012, 03:11 PM
The new Euro will probably be the 2014 Acura TLX,which will be the Spirior /Concept C as well.

The Euro sells very well in the USA,over 30 000 units per year.

The smaller,newer Acura ILX has battled,as it cannot compete with the TSX/Euro.

Another possability for the new Euro could be the ILX,although that is Civic,and not Accord based...

SPQR
18-12-2012, 05:49 AM
The only other country (apart for us) that sells the European Accord in numbers is China as the Honda Spirior (made locally). the Sprior sales were 50% below expectations (or more), 1500 cars a month is not enough to justify a whole assembly line.... Doesn't help when a Sprior cost almost the same as a BMW 3... in China.... Theres a lengthy discussion on a Chinese forum on the poor Honda Spirior sales (if you read Chinese) http://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thread-c-859-10088285-1.html


Japan: they need to keep the nameplate alive somehow.

Sales of anything Japanese as well as sales of the Honda Sprior (Superior) have been affected by the China-Japan dispute over rocks in the middle of seas. If you recall the Chinese were burning effigies earlier this year. That might not settle down so soon since a conservative government won the Japanese elections yesterday but I'm sure that the Japanese industrial companies will put pressure on the new conservative government to behave. As you conceded, the nameplate will live on and since it will be in right-hand-drive Japan, that means we'll be getting the new, probably downsized, Euro.

antony
18-12-2012, 06:16 AM
I am looking forward to the next Euro,whatever it may be.

It better be brilliant,or else I am off to Mazda to look at the all new 6.

Fredoops
20-12-2012, 10:40 AM
This is a good article to read

http://backfires.caranddriver.com/forums/53/posts/343993-459189

SPQR
21-12-2012, 05:59 AM
This is a good article to read

http://backfires.caranddriver.com/forums/53/posts/343993-459189

All I saw was a lot of diatribe about nothing much. Any chance of a link to the article?

Fredoops
21-12-2012, 07:16 AM
All I saw was a lot of diatribe about nothing much. Any chance of a link to the article?

http://m.caranddriver.com/www/blog/why-honda-is-in-even-more-trouble-than-you-think-deep-thoughts/

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