Fitting dc2 vtir brakes to ek civic

[Hellomotog]

So I've got the whole trailing arm setup with hand brake cable etc.

Also have the brake booster and master cylinder.

I currently have drums on the rear

So everything lines up. Just my existing brake lines are too small. Do I get an adaptor? Do I have to get new brake lines? Any other issues i will run into?

Thanks in advance guys..

[Hellomotog]

No ones done this before?
What about 5 stud how do you guys do that?

[mocchi]

gotta use rear brake lines ffrom brake disc calipers

rear brake lines different between drums and discs

[Hellomotog]

But the brake lines on the car dont fit the brake lines on the brake booster

[Hellomotog]

I've been told ek4 lines will work ?

[impossi13le]

But the brake lines on the car dont fit the brake lines on the brake booster

are you sure? i had ek4 master cylinder and replaced with dc2r master and booster, all the lines matched up. the only thing that was different was the proprotioning valve. Take a picture and post it up, that way we can help out more haha

Also, you have to get rear handbrake cables from an ek with rear discs, handbrake cable from dc2 chassis' is about 2-3 cm shorter at the connection to the handbrake lever. unless you're very innovative and can make/weld custom brackets to suit id be sourcing out some ek handbrake cables lol

[dorikin]

be more specific when asking, there's lots of brake lines on a car....

to answer your question DC2 VTIR (ABS) brake master cylinder uses 12mm flare nut on the rear port.

need to either cut and re-flare with new nut, get adaptor or get new line made up.

[dorikin]

are you sure? i had ek4 master cylinder and replaced with dc2r master and booster, all the lines matched up. the only thing that was different was the proprotioning valve. Take a picture and post it up, that way we can help out more haha

Also, you have to get rear handbrake cables from an ek with rear discs, handbrake cable from dc2 chassis' is about 2-3 cm shorter at the connection to the handbrake lever. unless you're very innovative and can make/weld custom brackets to suit id be sourcing out some ek handbrake cables lol

EK4 and DC2R BMC lines will mate but DC2 VTIR is an oddball

Did you try and fit DC2R handbrake cables when you did the 5-lug conversion and they came up too short? Interesting if that's the case, I need to take some measurements. If you get the chance can you give me the part no. on your DC2R handbrake cable so I can compare to mine, it's printed on the cable itself

[mugen_ctr]

I used DC2R on my EJ with zero problems, so im wondering how would goin to DC2 master+booster be having troubles fitting ???

If its the 98 - 00 VTir they are 1 inch master an booster, an it should fit fine with zero modifications to the brake lines, no flaring nothing, though im not sure about the 93 - 97, they mite be 15/16 master cylinder correct if im wrong... which might explain it, but i wouldnt know lol, but even than ive seen ppl run those ones in ek's

[mugen_ctr]

are you sure? i had ek4 master cylinder and replaced with dc2r master and booster, all the lines matched up. the only thing that was different was the proprotioning valve. Take a picture and post it up, that way we can help out more haha

Also, you have to get rear handbrake cables from an ek with rear discs, handbrake cable from dc2 chassis' is about 2-3 cm shorter at the connection to the handbrake lever. unless you're very innovative and can make/weld custom brackets to suit id be sourcing out some ek handbrake cables lol

actually i tried a custom bracket wouldnt even fit at all if ur using dc2 ebrakes like me, its that much of a tight fitting lol... i just left my lines with no brackets as there was hardly any play or movement haha

[Hellomotog]

Adaptor? Sounds good.. How about the calliper side? Where do I go about getting one of these

[dorikin]

I used DC2R on my EJ with zero problems, so im wondering how would goin to DC2 master+booster be having troubles fitting ???

If its the 98 - 00 VTir they are 1 inch master an booster, an it should fit fine with zero modifications to the brake lines, no flaring nothing, though im not sure about the 93 - 97, they mite be 15/16 master cylinder correct if im wrong... which might explain it, but i wouldnt know lol, but even than ive seen ppl run those ones in ek's

I already explained it and it's been covered before. DC2 VTIR is DIFFERENT, don't just assume they are the same as DC2R

[mugen_ctr]

I already explained it and it's been covered before. DC2 VTIR is DIFFERENT, don't just assume they are the same as DC2R

Actually a mate of mine went that route, but a 1 inch boost + BMC from VTIR, and fitted all fine so again, my point still stands, booster and MC, went we fitted all the lines, from his ek it fitted fine, no flaring of any lines....

AND as far as im aware, from all the web sites on Honda-tech, d-series.org etc etc..

Brake Booster
Upgrading your brake booster to the Integra (or maybe other) sized one has the only drawback of pushing the MC forward, so the hardlines aren't going to be in the same place as they were. So bending hardlines may be in order. What a bigger booster does is the same thing as increasing the pedal length, it increases the force on the MC linearly. Like it may may push on it 40% harder or so at any given point. So this basically makes your foot do less work. This is for people who have a really soft foot and want to make their car brake 'harder'. This can be done, but given the weight of the civic chassis, if you use the right sized MC with its paired caliper, no upgrade to the booster is necessary. It gets to the point where its just personal preference.

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=3044628

BUT since ur the expert is this true or not?

[Hellomotog]

So just to clarify


I have

An ek1 cxi (242 front, drum rear)
Integra dc2 VtiR trailing arm, discs, callipers, etc
Integra dc2 VtiR brake booster and master cylinder.

[dorikin]

Actually a mate of mine went that route, but a 1 inch boost + BMC from VTIR, and fitted all fine so again, my point still stands, booster and MC, went we fitted all the lines, from his ek it fitted fine, no flaring of any lines....

AND as far as im aware, from all the web sites on Honda-tech, d-series.org etc etc..

Brake Booster
Upgrading your brake booster to the Integra (or maybe other) sized one has the only drawback of pushing the MC forward, so the hardlines aren't going to be in the same place as they were. So bending hardlines may be in order. What a bigger booster does is the same thing as increasing the pedal length, it increases the force on the MC linearly. Like it may may push on it 40% harder or so at any given point. So this basically makes your foot do less work. This is for people who have a really soft foot and want to make their car brake 'harder'. This can be done, but given the weight of the civic chassis, if you use the right sized MC with its paired caliper, no upgrade to the booster is necessary. It gets to the point where its just personal preference.

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=3044628

BUT since ur the expert is this true or not?


yeh honda-tech

http://honda-tech.com/showpost.php?p=22800173&postcount=4

http://honda-tech.com/showpost.php?p=38470078&postcount=3

http://honda-tech.com/showpost.php?p=36573830&postcount=3

http://www.google.com.au/#q=site:honda-tech.com+gsr+brake+master+12mm&hl=en&prmd=imvns&ei=vm0sUM7zDoauiAeRvYGgDw&start=0&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=59125a52a671d2d0&biw=1034&bih=612

[Hellomotog]

So anyway.

I'm gonna use my stock brake booster and cylinder.. Just got new hoses for rear because of disc conversion 50$ from hobbits.

Apparently I can use my existing lines and banjo bolts will be the same size.

Will let you guys know