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OGDC5R
31-08-2012, 11:28 AM
Hi Guys,
Planning on turbo for the Dc5r Audm, have basic parts like a buddy club pro spec IV catback, Injen Intake. Ive Seen a few complete turbo kits on ebay called Turbonetics etc.
The kits are about $1000-1500 max.
Firstly, Is this Kit reliable compared to a Greddy street kit ?
secondly, im all for the DIY install, So apart from that what kind of pricing would I be looking at for a tune, Some guys on this thread spent about 10-15k on turbo the DC5r , I want to know where these hidden costs come from, as far as I can tell,
Turbo kit - $1000-1200 (w intercooler & all hardware).
Kpro - 1000-1500 max
750 cc Injectors - 300
So thats about 2.8k.
What else would the costs be? Is the tuning the most expensive part ? or is that a further 1k, because I dont see how tuning would be 6k.
All help appreciated. :thumbsup:
Riced_Civic
31-08-2012, 12:13 PM
sum people dont use off the shelf exhaust and go custom, some also choose not to do it them self which is $$$ in labour. you also need to account for fluids and small various things that can add up and also some things dont go your way and you end up spending more then you would like.
OGDC5R
31-08-2012, 12:55 PM
sum people dont use off the shelf exhaust and go custom, some also choose not to do it them self which is $$$ in labour. you also need to account for fluids and small various things that can add up and also some things dont go your way and you end up spending more then you would like.
Thanks for that!, do you know what would be expected price range when it comes to tuning ? do you know if im looking at hundreds or thousands, also presuming the turbo fits nice, and extra few hundred dollars to account for other parts, would I still be looking at a 6-12k job, or could I finish it all off under <5k. Cheers man
Riced_Civic
31-08-2012, 01:05 PM
tuning can cost around the 1k mark, you can complete the turbo project under the 5k mark if everything does your way and get some good deals.
stndrd
31-08-2012, 01:07 PM
You will also need to remember fuel pump and adjustible fuel pressure reg
OGDC5R
31-08-2012, 01:10 PM
You will also need to remember fuel pump and adjustible fuel pressure reg
Thanks Ill be keeping that in mind !
OGDC5R
31-08-2012, 01:12 PM
tuning can cost around the 1k mark, you can complete the turbo project under the 5k mark if everything does your way and get some good deals.
Okay awesome, thats what I was hoping for. I dont see fit spending 5k> while trying to reach my saving plans for the future.
DakDak
31-08-2012, 01:22 PM
Are you going second hand turbo kits?
What turbo you thinking of running?
OGDC5R
31-08-2012, 01:39 PM
Are you going second hand turbo kits?
What turbo you thinking of running?
Hi Mate, Im thinking of either a turbonetics/Godspeed one of ebay, the kits are roughly around $1k-$1.3k, I dont really intend of building a race car, just something that will break into the low 13's or better I guess (If possible). As mentioned above Im looking to spend <5k. Personally I would go a second hand turbo if it was in that price range. Cheers mate.
DakDak
31-08-2012, 02:14 PM
Im not too familiar with godspeed or turbonetics.
How much PSI you planning on running? Im guessing about 8-10ish with a stock motor and you want it to last.
OGDC5R
31-08-2012, 02:19 PM
Im not too familiar with godspeed or turbonetics.
How much PSI you planning on running? Im guessing about 8-10ish with a stock motor and you want it to last.
yeah roughly 8-10PSI, do not want to push it with stock internals as I dont really want to spend the money I work for on rebuilding a blown engine, Im just pretty iffy about finding a right tuner, Ive had mechanics in the past who tried to rip me off, did not do jobs properly. How long do you rekon it could take to tune a turbo ? is it a matter of hours ? or leaving the car for days.
SHOGUNOVDDRK
31-08-2012, 02:40 PM
Anything and everything can happen when you DIY and I've seen it.
Your radiator can shit itself, you may have to fark around with intrusion bars for cooler, etc etc
You've got the spirit, just have a small buffer in case of tow trucks, radiators, pipes/manifolds cracking, etc.
It's not just turboing Hondas that it happens to, accidents and shit happening does not discriminate.
OGDC5R
31-08-2012, 03:11 PM
Anything and everything can happen when you DIY and I've seen it.
Your radiator can shit itself, you may have to fark around with intrusion bars for cooler, etc etc
You've got the spirit, just have a small buffer in case of tow trucks, radiators, pipes/manifolds cracking, etc.
It's not just turboing Hondas that it happens to, accidents and shit happening does not discriminate.
Thanks for the info & what to be weary of, Okay I hope all goes well, Does anybody know anyone in AUS whos done a Turbo kit Install, DIY or mechanically installed. I would like as much info before I throw myself into the pit. As the car is my daily, I was wondering If I begin the DIY on a friday night Id hope that I can drive to work on a monday morning.
stndrd
31-08-2012, 04:41 PM
I would not be leaving yourself such a small window for the car to be finished, especially if you have not done this before. You will also need to create a oil return feed to your sump & depending on if you are running a water cooled turbo, coolant feeds as well
JDM DC2R
31-08-2012, 06:47 PM
Id start by writing a list of what you need. Triple check the list then buy all the products. Set every thing up on the floor ensuring you have the right flanges between turbo header's, oil cooler lines and sand wedge plate ect. Depending if you weld you will need to take your slump to get a bung welded in for the return line. Or buy a MOROSO slump. Then allow a week for install and a couple of days for tune. Wouldn't drive car before tune!!!!
Good luck!
OGDC5R
31-08-2012, 07:03 PM
I would not be leaving yourself such a small window for the car to be finished, especially if you have not done this before. You will also need to create a oil return feed to your sump & depending on if you are running a water cooled turbo, coolant feeds as well
yeah true, man this actually might take a little longer than I thought. I definately need to do a little more research on the specific turbo kit I will purchase, and suss out which might actually be the easiest in terms of install.
OGDC5R
31-08-2012, 07:05 PM
Id start by writing a list of what you need. Triple check the list then buy all the products. Set every thing up on the floor ensuring you have the right flanges between turbo header's, oil cooler lines and sand wedge plate ect. Depending if you weld you will need to take your slump to get a bung welded in for the return line. Or buy a MOROSO slump. Then allow a week for install and a couple of days for tune. Wouldn't drive car before tune!!!!
Good luck!
ah thanks man, yeah It looks like I may need to do abit of sourcing on some products I didnt even know I needed, appreciate the help buddy! hopefully this all works out
HauLe_
02-09-2012, 12:51 AM
If you have not been on club rsx then i think you should. A lot of the guys in the states have turboed their dc5 (rsx over in the states) and there are a lot of threads on there. Have a read and you'll find what you need. You might have to make an account which isnt too hard.
r3ckless
02-09-2012, 07:41 AM
Slump.....
xenonkuraz
02-09-2012, 11:13 AM
I would definitely stray away from the "Godspeed" turbo kit. I also dare say the turbonetics kit is not genuine.
If a turbo kit is only going to cost you 1-1.3k, I can guarantee unless it's a well used kit it is pieced together with cheap components.
See if you can buy a reputable branded kit from the states and try to get it complete with ecu and loom.
Give it atleast two weeks if you're doing it yourself then extra time to get it towed and tuned.
I would rather pay a workshop 2-3k for install and tune for piece of mind unless I was really mechanically minded
mugen_ctr
02-09-2012, 12:12 PM
firstly, reasons why its 6k is the turbo kit, most ppl dont buy a cheap egay kit, odds are its infact a greddy kit or some other off the shelf kit, OR even a custom job
Stay away from cheap turbo kits, for a very good reason, they have very shit tolerances an chances are they will blow there seals after 15,000kms of driving, as advised by a turbo specialist
IMO go greddy kit, and be done with it... less headaches, its designed to be fitted with ppl who plan on DIY at home and it has everything u need, its designed for the stock block k20 in mind.
Turbonetics is okay, cant say im a fan of em, they just look so cheap, maybe that explains it all, cheap an from china jus rebranded who knows, but they are ppl who use em so cant really say they are bad turbo kit, the price says it all
AND also u didnt factor in the shipping cost, so add another 450 + custom duty an taxes so prbs a bit more than 1.2k
and also u factor in a new HD clutch to cope with the added power?
Though i dont own a k20 vehicle, all turbo honda's are in the same boat wen comes to turbocharging lol
xenonkuraz
02-09-2012, 12:51 PM
I am still using stock clutch and fuel pump.
Honda components good for up to 180kw!
OGDC5R
04-09-2012, 11:27 AM
Thanks! yeah Ive been checking it out, alot of greddy & HKS setups at the states, Just seems a little out of my ideal price range
OGDC5R
04-09-2012, 11:29 AM
yeah thats truee, so do you rekon its worth tryna get it all done under 5k, or just spend that 3-4 k else where on the car ?
OGDC5R
04-09-2012, 11:29 AM
what kit do you have and how much did it end up costing ? cheers, Oktay
xenonkuraz
08-09-2012, 11:55 PM
I have a Turbo Specialties kit from the US. I ended up upgrading most of the parts down the track for more performance and reliability, but it was a good starting point.
The kit was just over 4k delivered at the time, spent 3.5k on install and tuning and have since then spent atleast another 2k on individual components to enhance the kit.
so lets say 10k give or take so far.
DakDak
10-09-2012, 10:37 AM
Still keen op?
OGDC5R
13-09-2012, 11:31 AM
hey Guys, sorry for the late reply, I am still definately keen, just been going through some storys, I have come accross alot of people spending well over 5k for finished product, I would like to know if there is anyone out there who has made it under <5k If so I would really like to get in contact with them. Cheers Guys
stndrd
13-09-2012, 12:36 PM
If someone has, it wouldn't have lasted very long. Look into a Full Race turbo kit if you want quality
OGDC5R
13-09-2012, 12:49 PM
If someone has, it wouldn't have lasted very long. Look into a Full Race turbo kit if you want quality
Yes, thats what I am worried about. I really do want to spend around 7-10k, But I dont think I can put that kind of money towards the car at once like that. I might see how it goes though, I could possibly think about buying the kit seperate, let it sit at home for a while I gather some money for Kpro + Tuning.
eddie123
15-09-2012, 09:26 PM
buying cheap parts will not last you very long, especially a turbo kit for only 1500. would prob last you 10000km then parts will start to fail eg. turbo seals, crack mani/pipings, oil lines etc etc.
If you want it to last longer and you can't afford it in one big blow, best bet is for you to buy good (quality) parts slowly. With a budget of 10k you should have everything, and installed (DIY). I am in the process of turbocharging my aus dc5r and its not cheap but should be worth it, have already spent over 5k. Billet 6262 turbo, kpro, clutch and flywheel, custom manifold. let us know how you go, would be very interested to see power figures with what kind of money spent.
Hardguy
25-09-2013, 12:01 AM
Hi, sorry to dig this up from the grave but i was wondering whether you ended up turboing your dc5?
From my experience it cost me easily 10k after i got my kit installed. With that said i did not DIY, instead i paid a mechanic who knew what he was doing which ended up costing me roughly 3.5k
There are a lot of little things that will add up and you will pull your hair out cos stuff doesnt fit as it should etc. It took the mechanic over 1 month to finish the job.
Like they say: Do it once, do it right
I am making a conservative 370whp on 9psi with my Full race turbo kit....
amant02
25-09-2013, 12:31 AM
Lol <5k for forced induction, not to be a dick. I read this somewhere on this forum. CHEAP, POWER and RELIBILITY.
You can pick only 2 of them at a time. If your cheap and want power, your car wont be reliable, if your cheap and want reliability then your car wont be putting down the numbers your chasing....and so on so on.
I recently bought a very minty dc5r, very nice car.
I also crunched some numbers to see which way I would like to go in terms of modification.
SC Setup = easy 9.8k thats not even taking into account labour and what not road blocks I may encounter.
K24 Setup = easy 9k as well. This setup may not be able to put down the numbers i want.
But hey what do I know, this is only my 5th project car and its going to be the biggest yet or 1st Kseries!.
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