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Honda
20-09-2012, 07:03 AM
Good morning guys, I'm not sure if this is normal or not.
When I connect the positive on the battery and then when I attempt to put the negative terminal on, it sparks once.
- Grounds are secure on amp (stripped the paint too) solid connection
- Positive terminal on battery is secure
- Negative terminal on battery is secure
When I turn the key to II or start the car I can hear the sparks sound (once). There are no warning lights that I noticed or anything.
It happens if the power cable (amp) is connected AND if it is not connected.
Any ideas?
grifty
20-09-2012, 07:22 AM
Check the positive cable for the amp, sounds like its shorting to ground somewhere along the way...
CRXDEL501
20-09-2012, 07:48 AM
Make sure you have the amp wired correctly
Might have put power into ground and vice versa
Sounds silly but easy to do, I've done it before lol
Honda
20-09-2012, 08:38 AM
Everything is wired correctly, here is what I done:
battery --> FUSE --> positive battery terminal
ground --> metal of the car, bolt that holds back seat in place
remote --> remote hu
rca --> rca hu
The sound is still there even if I dissconnect the power cable (amp) out of the battery.
It's hard to explain the correct sound. Its like a click sound (that sounds like the sound when the sparks occur with negative) (just one) it sounds like its a connection with the battery (maybe due to the paint they put on the battery terminal? you know the blue and red stuff).
I've only notice it when I pay attention (would explain why I didn't notice it in the past from the driver seat or maybe it wasn't already like that- no idea).
na-118
20-09-2012, 08:58 AM
the "PAINT" they put on the battery terminals are only there to protect from corrosion on the battery terminals and premature wear.
what fuse are you using?
Honda
20-09-2012, 09:18 AM
120A Fuse (it came with the amp kit)
After closely diagnosing it. I think the sound is coming from the fuse box next to the battery.
na-118
20-09-2012, 09:21 AM
check if it's grounded properly,
Honda
20-09-2012, 10:45 AM
I think I got paranoid. It seems like a normal thing.
I've tried it on 3 different cars and all of them had a clicking sound on the fuse box when turned to II (I think it's the relay)
Honda
20-09-2012, 10:48 AM
the "PAINT" they put on the battery terminals are only there to protect from corrosion on the battery terminals and premature wear.
Is there a special type of paint that I can buy? When I took the battery out, 90% of the paint stripped away and I think I should coat it with the same paint.
CRXDEL501
20-09-2012, 12:01 PM
So you are sure you have the ground cable going into the ground port or whatever on the amp?
And power going to power not the ground?
Honda
20-09-2012, 03:17 PM
So you are sure you have the ground cable going into the ground port or whatever on the amp?
And power going to power not the ground?
100% sure!
Now I've ran into some issues when everything is hooked up
Engine off - plays like a charm
Engine on - I hear alot of low frequency sounds like it my fronts were subwoofers
CRXDEL501
20-09-2012, 03:19 PM
100% sure!
Now I've ran into some issues when everything is hooked up
Engine off - plays like a charm
Engine on - I hear alot of low frequency sounds like it my fronts were subwoofers
Then you have the front speakers playing on low pass filter bud
Honda
20-09-2012, 04:30 PM
Filter is set on high- I tried to set it on low and its only getting bass.
I noticed that if I press the accelerator, the funny sounds adjust to it. When the engine is running with volume set to 0, it has a consistence sound.
na-118
20-09-2012, 04:34 PM
did you run power cable and rcas on seperate sides of the vehicle>?
Honda
20-09-2012, 04:51 PM
did you run power cable and rcas on seperate sides of the vehicle>?
Yes I did. There was a slight issue when wired to the amp.
My power is on the left side of the car while the power on the amp is on the right side. SO it had to cross rca, remote, speakers etc to get to its location
have you got an extra set of rcas?
check speaker cables arnt grounding to chassis. turn multi meter to ohms and connect one probe to the ground and press other on speaker wires(disconect from amp but leave on speaker), if any of them show resistance you have a problem.
THE 2BSEEN
20-09-2012, 07:00 PM
Bro how bigger amps are you running.
You might be due for a cap to keep a charge to all the amps
I run 2x 500w amps and a 800w mono amp plus a cap to keep the charge to the amps.. It should help you stop any power being taken when starting up. Also stop lights from flickering when the bass kicks in
You could need a bigger earth or shorter earth.
Same with fuses
How are you splitting your power cables?
Pm if you need help
Honda
20-09-2012, 07:29 PM
Bro how bigger amps are you running.
You might be due for a cap to keep a charge to all the amps
I run 2x 500w amps and a 800w mono amp plus a cap to keep the charge to the amps.. It should help you stop any power being taken when starting up. Also stop lights from flickering when the bass kicks in
You could need a bigger earth or shorter earth.
Same with fuses
How are you splitting your power cables?
Pm if you need help
WoahWoahWoah! I'm only running a 360W amp running to the front speakers (I over loaded the cable lol but plan to maybe upgrade later)
Here is the conclusions to the post that I created.
Spark were created when negative is connected: This was normal
I heard a click/spark sound when it is on II and when the car starts (with and without the system): I think this is normal too, it came near the fuse box area (I've done the same to 3 different cars and they had this similar click sound)
The weird noise I was hearing: It turns out that there was some sort of unwanted connection to the speaker terminal (I think) remounted the left speaker and the noise was gone. The sound enhanced when the engine was on possible due to the shaking causing it to go worse.
CRXDEL501
20-09-2012, 07:36 PM
Just take it to a stereo installer
If its all "set up " right then who knows
Maybe something is faulty
Honda
20-09-2012, 07:41 PM
It's solved by the way :D remounted the left speaker, possibly a wire got caught on the terminal or some unwanted signals.
I heard that people put Vaseline on their grounds to protect it from rust? lol has anyone tried this?
THE 2BSEEN
20-09-2012, 07:47 PM
It's solved by the way :D remounted the left speaker, possibly a wire got caught on the terminal or some unwanted signals.
I heard that people put Vaseline on their grounds to protect it from rust? lol has anyone tried this?
I haven't heard about it bro but once you set it up and it all works you can do what ever you like. You can paint it if you want.
It shouldn't rust up less it gets wet or something lol.
I have no problems at all
Killa From Manila
20-09-2012, 08:53 PM
its normal for the battery to spark, it just happens when you complete a DC circuit, they tend to arc. just put the connection on quickly in 1 go.
the clicking noise is just the main relay
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