bmc and brake booster

[jayeg]

i have done an integra 5 stud and now pedal is soft could i use either crv brake booster and mc or integra vtir as a cheaper opition or do i need to use the type r setup its weird the car the 5 stud come off was only using a standard eg brake booster and mc and it was braking fine on that

[na-118]

sounds like you're doing it all wrong

re bleed the system from furthest point

[bennjamin]

That

And make sure the bleeding pipe is submerged in a container- easy to do but easy to stuff up if you are a novice

[jayeg]

so a stock vti booster and mc should give me some brakes because i have nothing at the moment

[mocchi]

no brakes = bleed properly
spongy = get bigger bmc

[Evok]

no brakes = bleed properly
spongy = get bigger bmc

no brakes = not bled at all
spongy = bleed brakes

[na-118]

peddle sinking to floor = it's by passing somewhere in the system

[mocchi]

no brakes = not bled at all
spongy = bleed brakes

hes using bigger brakes with stock eg bmc which is like 13/16/
lots of pedal travel there

[EKVTIR-T]

its like having a 10inch schlong and weak heart,not enough power to pump it well

[mocchi]

its like having a 10inch schlong and weak heart,not enough power to pump it well

just do this

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar2484_204.gif

[hoojee]

also like to add, if you didnt bench bleed the bmc before installing, it does take a bit more bleed cylces to completely bleed all the air out within the bmc. that could exhibit soft pedal feeling.

[connorling]

i changed mine brakes to bb4 (282mm, very similar to your dc2r brakes) on my EG using stock bmc and booster, and it was so soft and spongy no matter how many times i bleed, i even took it to the shop and bleed the system thinking i was doing it wrong.

then i got myself the brake booster and bmc (1") from a bb4 , and the brake padles are so firm after that.

i am not saying thats your issue, but it would be a good idea to change the bmc and booster to a bigger one even when the paddle is not spongy after installing bigger brakes. and hopefully that fix your problem.

[.Dave]

another question.... i have all standard eg brakes at the moment, have noticed recently that sitting in traffic or at lights whatever, i push the pedal till its hard and then it kinda gives slowly and sinks down a bit more, havent been loosing any fluid, but any ideas as to how i can fix this....

[connorling]

another question.... i have all standard eg brakes at the moment, have noticed recently that sitting in traffic or at lights whatever, i push the pedal till its hard and then it kinda gives slowly and sinks down a bit more, havent been loosing any fluid, but any ideas as to how i can fix this....


two possibilities.

1)losing pressure in the system, can be a leak somewhere like brake hoses

2) lot of air in the system, you are pushing the brake fluids around as there is lot of air trap inside, have to bleed all the air out.

[jayeg]

so could i use crv or vtir integra booster and bmc or just type r

[.Dave]

two possibilities.

1)losing pressure in the system, can be a leak somewhere like brake hoses

2) lot of air in the system, you are pushing the brake fluids around as there is lot of air trap inside, have to bleed all the air out.

cheers, i bled it when i installed new pads and im sure there was no air... ill try it again to be sure...

[mocchi]

another question.... i have all standard eg brakes at the moment, have noticed recently that sitting in traffic or at lights whatever, i push the pedal till its hard and then it kinda gives slowly and sinks down a bit more, havent been loosing any fluid, but any ideas as to how i can fix this....

does it keep sinking?
usually the bmc need replacing

[connorling]

cheers, i bled it when i installed new pads and im sure there was no air... ill try it again to be sure...
like i said, it happened to me, i even took out the bmc and booster and get professional clean and rebuild it too.
and it still feel spongy.

i replace the bmc and bb with BB4 items, it went so much better.

[.Dave]

does it keep sinking?
usually the bmc need replacing
yeah sinks a fair way.... cheers, ill get onto replacing it... need a bigger one anyway

[GU357]

LOL everyone forgot about OP

[EG8 CIVIC]

ive also got the same issue.

connorling - did u also change pv to 40/40?

ive gota 96 itr bmc - it doesnt brake until the last 4cms of braking

[GU357]

how is your fluid level, and what booster?

[EG8 CIVIC]

if ur talking to me:

fluids are all good. booster is itr 96 spec.. no air in lines. bled twice

[GU357]

your pads wouldnt be worn, or sitting far from the disc surface?

[EG8 CIVIC]

Pads are still good, disc to pad distance is good

[GU357]

does the pedal come back up properly? and does it feel stiff?

[EG8 CIVIC]

Pedal returns fine, the pedal is not stil.. Only to a point of the brakes biting. Besides that it feels like crap

[connorling]

I didn't change to 40/40.

[connorling]

Sounds like the bb or BMC not holding pressure. When did u change it? Did they banch bleed the system before putting into the car?

[EG8 CIVIC]

Thats the thing. I didnt bench bleed it. I did the conversion couple days ago

[GU357]

weird, my car had pretty soft brakes, and tok a while to bite, i put a brake stopper on and its a bit better, maybe u could try that

[EG8 CIVIC]

Im thinking bout juat replacing 1" bmc and 4040 pv.. For future sake... Hoping it would fix the issue.. If not ill try that next

Thanks mate

[GU357]

wait do u have the right prop valve?