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Grayfox
01-11-2012, 01:19 PM
I heard somewhere that police are now cracking down in not indicating left on the exit of a roundabout.

Is this true?

duzy
01-11-2012, 01:31 PM
Not sure, but does this only apply to two laned roundabouts and large ones?

They also implemented changes to road rules as of 1st november.
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/usingroads/downloads/nsw_road_rules_2012.pdf

curtis265
01-11-2012, 01:40 PM
hasn't this always been the case?

trism
01-11-2012, 03:55 PM
hasn't this always been the case?

I thought so too, it was a rule, but not policed, now there is fines and demerits, as of today

joeyybruh
01-11-2012, 03:59 PM
go on the rta , download the PDF file and read.

new laws on overtaking , giving way to pedestrians , mobile phone laws , the roundabout issue and U turns .

not so much new laws but edited with fines and demerit points .

stay safe peeps :)

kenny07
02-11-2012, 11:35 AM
it was always a rule but never really enforced i think...

i was taught that you had to signal left always when you exit a double round-about.. but now you really DO HAVE TO signal left if you gonna exit...

my question is.. the PDf above shows it the diagram of a double round-about..

how about a single lane round about... do we need to still signal left to exit???

???/

Grayfox
02-11-2012, 12:26 PM
yes, on all roundabouts.

It is stupid in my view.

It is bad enough when people do not signal when entering but now we will have people who will signal and leave the bloody blinker on which will confuse you on 2 lanes as you wont know if they are merging lanes or just have the blinker stuck.

And the PDF is the first i have read about it, nothing on the TV or radio about the roundabout rule change, only mobile phones.

DLO01
02-11-2012, 12:29 PM
The rules of indicating for dual and single lane round abouts would be the same.

kenny07
03-11-2012, 01:25 PM
oh okay.. so for both single and double round abouts...

mmmmm

i think its a bit stupid for single, but i can understand for double..

and1_hotsauce
28-12-2012, 08:34 PM
very very silly rule. Another revenue booster i guess...

rossirider
28-12-2012, 09:10 PM
Ever tried signaling out when turning right in a small round about and your arms are all crossed up? It makes you feel all retarded

Jiblet
26-01-2013, 05:06 PM
Not sure if it's any different over there, but in WA the actual regulation says to indicate upon exit "if practicable". This is what I will use and will fight if I ever get done for not indicating.

http://www.ors.wa.gov.au/Documents/Road-Rules/roadrules-roadcraft-roundabouts.aspx
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/consol_reg/rtc2000113/s99.html
A driver driving in a roundabout shall, if practicable, give a left turn signal when leaving the roundabout.

Edit: Looking through the NSW Road Rules 2008 (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_reg/rr2008104/) it appears you have the same "if practicable" but your rules have must. So unfortunately you have nothing to stand on and have to indicate.
If practicable, a driver driving in a roundabout must give a left change of direction signal when leaving the roundabout.

curtis265
27-01-2013, 12:40 PM
Not sure if it's any different over there, but in WA the actual regulation says to indicate upon exit "if practicable". This is what I will use and will fight if I ever get done for not indicating.

http://www.ors.wa.gov.au/Documents/Road-Rules/roadrules-roadcraft-roundabouts.aspx
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/consol_reg/rtc2000113/s99.html

Edit: Looking through the NSW Road Rules 2008 (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_reg/rr2008104/) it appears you have the same "if practicable" but your rules have must. So unfortunately you have nothing to stand on and have to indicate.

that's interesting, i thought it was compulsory in WA too.

cos i hate it when people go really slow in a roundabout and don't indicate out so you wait for no reason

actually in WA people don't understand the concept of indicators as a whole... but that's a completely different argument

Jiblet
27-01-2013, 12:50 PM
that's interesting, i thought it was compulsory in WA too.

cos i hate it when people go really slow in a roundabout and don't indicate out so you wait for no reason

actually in WA people don't understand the concept of indicators as a whole... but that's a completely different argument
Looking through legal definitions, "Shall" and "must" are effectively the same term. "Shall" is currently being replaced in regulations with "must" but WA is a little behind the times (no way, really?).

So technically, it is compulsary but there is the little leeway or "loop hole" of it being practical to do so.

It would be interesting the see how hard it would be to convince a judge that it wasn't practicable to use your indicator whilst travelling straight through a RAB (i believe it is not necessary when going straight through, but it is when you are exiting after turning around the RAB). On a big RAB i think you wouldn't get off, but on a small one with all the weaving gutters and islands that WA has I think it would be a bit easier to fight.

Setanta
02-02-2013, 02:15 PM
"if practicable" is a great escape. I got called out on this by a police officer. I told him that I had both hands on the steering wheel controlling the car in a safe manner and that due to the reset mechanism I was endangering others by changing my hand position to hold an indicator down. He looked me in the eye, told me I was full of shit but it was the best reason he'd heard all day and then let me on my merry way