Is it best engine oil for Euro

[by-life]

After talking to some local mechanics specialist for MY06 euro 70,000km, three brands of engine oil have been recommended, which are Valvoline 5w-30, phoenix 5w-30 or Penrite 5w-30.

Which one is good?

Thx in advance.

[Fredoops]

After talking to some local mechanics specialist for MY06 euro 70,000km, three brands of engine oil have been recommended, which are Valvoline 5w-30, phoenix 5w-30 or Penrite 5w-30.

Which one is good?

Thx in advance.

Valvoline what?

Phonenix what?

Penrite what?

All you gave us are brands, not "models" of oil.

We gonna need more info.


but as general rule.
If it's Penrite, get HPR5 Full synthetic.
If Valvoline, use Synpower
If Phoenix use PX TECHNICIAN SERIES XTREME

[EKVTIR-T]

Any of the 3 are fine,don't overthink it

I know Freddy and others can and will analyse every molecule but at the end of the day its not going to make huge differences imo

[Fredoops]

Any of the 3 are fine,don't overthink it

I know Freddy and others can and will analyse every molecule but at the end of the day its not going to make huge differences imo

LOL MSDS gives me a hardon.

Semi synthetic are fine for 6mth drain intervals, but the OP's doing low kays so im suspecting 12mth+ intervals, hence recommending synthetic oil.

[felixd]

HONDA FEO Oil . period

[Fredoops]

HONDA FEO Ultra Oil . period

fixed

srsly tho, both FEO and FEO ultra are overpriced for what you get, even dealers dont use it.

[u mad?]

HONDA FEO Oil . period

Why? .

[Fredoops]

Why? .

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we'll be here all night
/popcorn

[DreadAngel]

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[by-life]

5w-30 is grade which has been told.

[Fredoops]

5w-30 is grade which has been told.

correct grade for a CL9, you can go up to 0w-40.
Still havent told us what type of Valvoline/Penrite oil you're using

also how often do you change the oil.

Otherwise just pick up a bottle or Penrite HPR5 or HPR0.

[by-life]

Thx for reply.

Engine Oil was replaced at every 5000km @ Dealer. But, looking for mechanic specialists to do logbook service this time, so talked to a few mechanics and only been told the limited information as above.

A ringwood mechanic mentioned semi-synthetic valvoline engine oil by email, then add 5w-30 by phone.

Don't know whether it concludes enough information.

Furthermore
Penrite oil 10w-50 full synthetic is good or not? (from its website, it will be HPR 10)

One mechanic in Nunawarding has recommended it at good price for minor service.

Please criticise it. Great thanks.


correct grade for a CL9, you can go up to 0w-40.
Still havent told us what type of Valvoline/Penrite oil you're using

also how often do you change the oil.

Otherwise just pick up a bottle or Penrite HPR5 or HPR0.

[Fredoops]

Furthermore
Penrite oil 10w-50 full synthetic is good or not? (from its website, it will be HPR 10)

One mechanic in Nunawarding has recommended it at good price for minor service.

Please criticise it. Great thanks.

Accord Euro's User Manual does NOT allow the usage of any 50 weight oil (ie: 10w-50), too thick.

40 weight is as high as you're allowed to go (eg: 0w-40, 5w-40, 10w-40)
- Therefore you should use HPR5 (5w-40) or HPR0 (0w-30), they are the same as HPR10 just different thickness/weighting.

Having said that, the full synthetic oils can easily last 12 mth 12k km, but if you change oil twice a year religiously (remember honda servicing is 10k km or 6mth which ever sooner). Then it's a bit of a waste using full synthetic since you'll be chucking away good oil.

In that case a bottle of cheap Valvoline engine armour oil (10w-30 or 10w-40) would be sufficient,since you are replacing it in 500km/6mth anyway.

[DreadAngel]

Please do remember though that although the oil can last 12mth/12k kms, its your oil filter that doesn't last the distance.

Fact is that oil technology [the good ones anyway] has far surprised the filtration tech [oil filter] so while your oil looks brilliant still after 5000km, your oil filter is already clogged full.

[by-life]

Thx Fredoops and DreadAgel.

The cheap one will be decided, 5w-40 or 10w-30 and call Mechanic tomorrow.

Great thx.

[Fredoops]

Please do remember though that although the oil can last 12mth/12k kms, its your oil filter that doesn't last the distance.

Fact is that oil technology [the good ones anyway] has far surprised the filtration tech [oil filter] so while your oil looks brilliant still after 5000km, your oil filter is already clogged full.

While I agree... The Honda log books does not change oil filter every service

Log book does filter change ever 20k /12mth (every 2nd service).

Not that I follow that, but since I got double capacity extended service filters I'm pretty comfortable with long drains.



Thx Fredoops and DreadAgel.

The cheap one will be decided, 5w-40 or 10w-30 and call Mechanic tomorrow.

Great thx.

Just ask for something 5w-30 or 10w-30 semi synthetic.

[Evok]

Half the shit is made in same factory. branded different
Penrite is better because its been out there longest with most reputable reviews , they offer the extra 10 zinc which is cool.
I use 10-50, i might go thicker because i burn oil.
Either way 0w, we ain't in the snow.

W is determined by your car's health, the weather, the way you drive and how long your car drive daily.

[Fredoops]

Half the shit is made in same factory. branded different
Penrite is better because its been out there longest with most reputable reviews , they offer the extra 10 zinc which is cool.
I use 10-50, i might go thicker because i burn oil.
Either way 0w, we ain't in the snow.

W is determined by your car's health, the weather, the way you drive and how long your car drive daily.

all the post 2001 made hondas dont use anything thicker than 40 as the engine build tolerance level is much narrower, all thicker oil going to do is produce extra friction and engine stress, especially the accord euro's

[DreadAngel]

While I agree... The Honda log books does not change oil filter every service

Log book does filter change ever 20k /12mth (every 2nd service).

Not that I follow that, but since I got double capacity extended service filters I'm pretty comfortable with long drains.

Cheater...

Broke my moment of glory LOL

JKS XD

[by-life]

Just ask for something 5w-30 or 10w-30 semi synthetic.

Penrite doesn't produce 5w-30 (HPR 5 is 5w-40 or enviro 5w-30 is full synthetic), the valvoline is only option.

[Fredoops]

Penrite doesn't produce 5w-30 (HPR 5 is 5w-40 or enviro 5w-30 is full synthetic), the valvoline is only option.

That's fine as well, if you change oil twice a year any semi synthetic oil would be fine for a daily driver.

[BigBen]

Half the shit is made in same factory. branded different
Penrite is better because its been out there longest with most reputable reviews , they offer the extra 10 zinc which is cool.
I use 10-50, i might go thicker because i burn oil.
Either way 0w, we ain't in the snow.

W is determined by your car's health, the weather, the way you drive and how long your car drive daily.


Extra Zinc is great in protecting the engine components, but zinc will clog/damage your cat converter and oxygen sensor. If you're running a high flow cat, ie a larger matrix cat and are changing the oxygen sensor every 100k km, then go for a higher zinc oil.

Most people flog off their car before 100k km anyway so a higher zinc oil does not matter much.

[azn_k3nt]

Martini Racing 5w30 i think O.o

[natnat]

Would the japanese made oem filter be a better quality than the thai made one?

I have used semi and full syn oils 5w-30 & 5w-40, castrol edge / shell helix utra in the under $65 price ranges, in both ex CL9 and the current CU2,.
For normal daily use, you'd have to be an expert to feel significant differences.

In my other car, i now use motul vw504.00 specific and it burnt less oil than the castrol edge pro slx 3 during a track day.

[akjdfnn]

Mugen oil? awesome...where can i buy that? im gonna mix it with scotch

[by-life]

Decide Penrite HPR 5, $42.99 @ Supercheapauto and $11.99 for oil filter @ Recop, then ask a mechanic to change for me.
Wait to see the result.

[honda73]

USA Honda oil 10L $58 e-bay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mobil-Honda-Genuine-HG-Engine-Motor-Oil-5W30-10-Quart-9-46-L-/170759723076?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27c2129844&_uhb=1

[ChaosMaster]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mobil-Super-Synthetic-Engine-Oil-5W30-6-Quart-/170654896096?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27bbd30fe0

Mobile Super Synthetic is pretty cheap, not sure what group or quality it is.

[Fredoops]

There's a Melbourne retailer that sells Redline Racing engine oil for less than $15 a quart.