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eLtrix
31-12-2012, 03:36 PM
Can anyone shine some light on this? Would it be legal? Or would i need engineering?

Or could i just go straight to vic roads and they will just register it?

opinions would be greatly appreciated.

quangsuke
31-12-2012, 04:54 PM
legally it will need to be engineered as the engines initial 2.0l has been increased to 2.4l.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/PermitsModificationsAndDefects/Modifications/NotifyingVicRoadsOfChangesAndModifications.htm


but their are various loop holes in our VicRoads System.
Route 1. get a mechanic to supply a road worthy for the new motor where he will record the new engine number down.

route 2. go straight to VicRoads and help them you have put a new motor in your car. Make a dodgy receipt for the motor and depending on the person who is serving you, you will now have a registered motor to your car.

this is a hit and miss. keep trying till you succeed.

eLtrix
31-12-2012, 05:02 PM
Thanks. I'll try and do the hit and miss
!!

hmetro24
01-01-2013, 03:59 AM
legally it will need to be engineered as the engines initial 2.0l has been increased to 2.4l.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/PermitsModificationsAndDefects/Modifications/NotifyingVicRoadsOfChangesAndModifications.htm


but their are various loop holes in our VicRoads System.
Route 1. get a mechanic to supply a road worthy for the new motor where he will record the new engine number down.

route 2. go straight to VicRoads and help them you have put a new motor in your car. Make a dodgy receipt for the motor and depending on the person who is serving you, you will now have a registered motor to your car.

this is a hit and miss. keep trying till you succeed.

It would not work this easy, mechanics are not stupid either vic road.
when ever see that the car has diferrent engine. they will check online and see if the engine number is the same number registered to the car.
also in vic road they check if engine number meet the data they have, if it's different they will ask for receipt and rwc. if you have both, they will check if the the new engine is not registered to any car. if all is good it will be registered

eLtrix
01-01-2013, 09:16 AM
^ Good enough for me. I can do that :D

dougie_504
03-01-2013, 03:29 PM
Just get it properly engineered. You may need to address driveline, brakes, emissions, exhaust, suspension etc

IEVAQ8
03-01-2013, 08:46 PM
so much nonsense....

no RWC is required to do a engine number swap on ur vehicles registration...

all u need is a receipt for the engine with the engine number on it and vic roads will transfer this new engine number onto ur cars registration and away u go....

eLtrix
03-01-2013, 09:28 PM
Not that simple with a k24, since its not meant for that chassis.

u mad?
03-01-2013, 09:30 PM
so much nonsense....

no RWC is required to do a engine number swap on ur vehicles registration...

all u need is a receipt for the engine with the engine number on it and vic roads will transfer this new engine number onto ur cars registration and away u go....if only

PHO
03-01-2013, 09:32 PM
if only

There are some dumbkunts at vicroads who dont know shit.

Many people getting away with b18/k20 in their shitvics with just providing receipt. Its just luck really.

Some people say it came in the car in japan, worked many times. But yeah. Those were all 1-2 years ago. Dunno about now.

u mad?
03-01-2013, 09:34 PM
There are some dumbkunts at vicroads who dont know shit.

Many people getting away with b18/k20 in their shitvics with just providing receipt. Its just luck really.

Some people say it came in the car in japan, worked many times. But yeah. Those were all 1-2 years ago. Dunno about now.lmao fuk

eLtrix
03-01-2013, 09:42 PM
There are some dumbkunts at vicroads who dont know shit.

Many people getting away with b18/k20 in their shitvics with just providing receipt. Its just luck really.

Some people say it came in the car in japan, worked many times. But yeah. Those were all 1-2 years ago. Dunno about now.

What im going to do :D

dougie_504
03-01-2013, 09:42 PM
so much nonsense....

no RWC is required to do a engine number swap on ur vehicles registration...

all u need is a receipt for the engine with the engine number on it and vic roads will transfer this new engine number onto ur cars registration and away u go....


Lol.

Maybe if you're lucky but that's clearly not the Vic law.

ANY engine that was not available as an AUDM option needs to be engineered, whether it's larger, smaller, more or less powerful, available in the JDM market or not.

PHO
03-01-2013, 09:50 PM
What im going to do :D

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they did it.

A lot of the people at the counter are clueless to the real laws. Either have their own laws made up in their head, or just dont know. Same goes with calling vicroads. Is hopeless. Better off reading online.

IEVAQ8
03-01-2013, 09:53 PM
so how is it that we have walked into vic roads with a receipt for my bro's k20 purchase, they come out to check the engine number in the car its in...
s13 silvia............

i never said its a legal engine swap, or engineered, or the correct way to do it, but if your lucky enuf to find a dumb shit behind the counter (99% of vicroads officers), u will get it done...

PHO
03-01-2013, 09:56 PM
so how is it that we have walked into vic roads with a receipt for my bro's k20 purchase, they come out to check the engine number in the car its in...
s13 silvia............

i never said its a legal engine swap, or engineered, or the correct way to do it, but if your lucky enuf to find a dumb shit behind the counter (99% of vicroads officers), u will get it done...

And once its entered in the system. No more worries. haha

EKVTIR-T
03-01-2013, 10:01 PM
Instead of everyone talking shit why not look at the exact rules,not hearsay

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/PermitsModificationsAndDefects (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/PermitsModificationsAndDefects/Modifications/NotifyingVicRoadsOfChangesAndModifications.htm)


Change of engine
1. Replacement engine is identical to the original engine, or is an option allowed by the manufacturer for the same model vehicle
The optional engine must be offered in Australia by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle (or certified variants). The change of engine may be recorded by VicRoads provided that the registered operator or a motor mechanic, or dealer in that make of vehicle or an Automotive Engineer signs a declaration certifying the engine is optional for the vehicle model, and that all modifications made by the manufacturer for the same vehicle model with that optional engine have been completed.

You will need to attend a VicRoads Customer Service Centre to have the vehicle's engine inspected to confirm the new engine details. No appointment is required. You will also need to complete a Change of Vehicle Description form.


2. Replacement engine is not of a type offered by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle or where alterations, or changes to the vehicle's frame or structure are made, and/or specially fabricated supports or structures are used
You will need to attend a VicRoads Customer Service Centre for an inspection of the vehicle to confirm the new engine details. You will also need to complete a Change of Vehicle Description form and provide VicRoads with:
a VASS Approval Certificate from a VicRoads Vehicle Assessment Signatory
an original receipt for the purchase of the engine as proof of ownership of the engine

3. Replacement engine is not of a type and/or make offered by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle, but is equivalent in general configuration, power, mass, and emissions standard to that of the original or an optional engine for the vehicle model and can be installed without any structual alterations.
The change of engine may be recorded by VicRoads provided that the registered operator or a motor mechanic, or dealer in that make of vehicle or an Automotive Engineer signs a declaration certifying that all modifications made by the manufacturer for the same vehicle model with that engine, have been completed.
A Change of Vehicle Description form must be completed providing new engine details. An inspection to confirm engine details is also required unless a Certificate of Roadworthiness or VASS Approval Certificate including the new engine number is provided (only for a currently registered Victorian vehicle). An original receipt for the purchase of the engine must be provided as proof of ownership of the engine.
When a VASS Approval Certificate has been supplied for a replacement engine, then an equivalent replacement engine can be fitted without another VASS Approval Certificate being presented (eg 350 c.i. V8 engine replaced with 350 c.i. V8 engine).




thank

IEVAQ8
03-01-2013, 10:06 PM
we all no the rules and regulations, we just saying you can get away with it if ur lucky

trism
07-01-2013, 10:53 AM
number 3 to put a k24 into a dc5.

Should be easy as piss.