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Stayxtrue
29-01-2013, 03:40 PM
Hey guys,

With this service, Honda advise it really should be done by them... But is this really necessary?? From what the manual says its fairly simple, other then checking to make sure everything else is in check.

Honda advised me it's 480 through them, when I can do it for a much cheaper price

Jasemas
29-01-2013, 03:49 PM
Make sure you do your transmission fluid too

Stayxtrue
29-01-2013, 03:51 PM
The manual says oil, oil filter and spark plugs. So a transmission fluid flush would need to be on the cards as well?? Honda didn't say tho would be a part of theirs =\

MR_LATE
29-01-2013, 04:14 PM
u should do a number of things and if there is no other choice than honda then i yeah, but if u can opt for someone you know is better then save money and buy more stuff to do for service e.g. trans oil, upper engine cleaner, airfilters. even a radiator flush might be dued

Stayxtrue
29-01-2013, 04:22 PM
Cheers guys I might have a chat to a few mechanics around my area and see what I can find... I am over in the south eastern suburbs of Melbourne

Jasemas
29-01-2013, 06:46 PM
Transmission oil in Euros doesn't get changed til... WAIT FOR IT 120,xxxkms. Yes that's at least 10 years of the same OIL in that poor transmission - get it done ASAP
Quiz Honda about the regular ATF/MTF oil changes and thay say 'follow the book'
But after the late 90's Honda started having transmission problems
Sorry TL;DR

MR_LATE
29-01-2013, 07:45 PM
had mine change at 60 free of charge by dealer

stndrd
29-01-2013, 08:37 PM
Drop me a PM in regards to pricing and getting the ATF changed. Im located in the eastern suburbs but offer onsite servicing as well

BigBen
29-01-2013, 10:19 PM
I drop my auto transmission fluid at 9 months old at 20,000 km on the clock. It was black and alot of metal debris stuck to the magnet. Note its not even 12 months old!!
The Honda DW1 is only $58.00 for 4 litres cheap insurance (I flush it 2 times) and dead easy to flush!!

Fredoops
29-01-2013, 10:42 PM
I drop my auto transmission fluid at 9 months old at 20,000 km on the clock. It was black and alot of metal debris stuck to the magnet. Note its not even 12 months old!!
The Honda DW1 is only $58.00 for 4 litres cheap insurance (I flush it 2 times) and dead easy to flush!!

Dont forget the $64 tranny filter

BigBen
29-01-2013, 10:50 PM
Yeah, good point, I'll change it at my next oil change (I've back ordered the part). They didn't have the filter in stock when I was getting the trans fluid.
I should have taken a picture of the old trans fluid and the magnet. I thought it would be still red in colour at that low 20,000km point. But it was black as black coffee and was really surprise.

I suppose its doing its job, just change it more often as its cheaper than a tranny rebuild.

Fredoops
29-01-2013, 10:54 PM
^^^Totally

BigBen
29-01-2013, 11:02 PM
No wonder people are having trans issue with higher mileage Honda. If the factory say to change it at 100k km or more the trans oil is far too gone and all the additives has completely broken down. Fark it cost me $80.00 every time I fill the car with petrol. Its no brainer to spend $110.00 and do the trans fluid every 20-30k km.

All I can say that at 20,000km point I started getting a slight hesitation / thump when shifting in the morning when the tranny is still cold. The trans oil is possibly started to thickened.

Once I did the flush the slight thump (shifting from second to third) in the morning is all gone. All you can feel is the normal shifting from the auto tranny.

EKVTIR-T
29-01-2013, 11:04 PM
the more you know :thumbsup:

Jasemas
29-01-2013, 11:58 PM
No wonder people are having trans issue with higher mileage Honda. If the factory say to change it at 100k km or more the trans oil is far too gone and all the additives has completely broken down. Fark it cost me $80.00 every time I fill the car with petrol. Its no brainer to spend $110.00 and do the trans fluid every 20-30k km.

All I can say that at 20,000km point I started getting a slight hesitation / thump when shifting in the morning when the tranny is still cold. The trans oil is possibly started to thickened.

Once I did the flush the slight thump (shifting from second to third) in the morning is all gone. All you can feel is the normal shifting from the auto tranny.

Remember for the first few minutes of driving in the morning, drive easy and quarter throttle :)
Need to let that ATF circulate

afgmoh
30-01-2013, 10:20 AM
I'm getting my Euro serviced this Monday at Honda. $600ish+ approx job for the 120,000km service. For those interested in how much it is haha

TheSaint
30-01-2013, 02:04 PM
does the trans fluid flush and change intervals that you guys recommend go for the MT as well as the AT?

MR_LATE
30-01-2013, 02:31 PM
yes it does. i personally think mt should be more regular.

Fredoops
30-01-2013, 02:33 PM
does the trans fluid flush and change intervals that you guys recommend go for the MT as well as the AT?

drain and fill every 2 years/20k-30k for auto? And the filter every 2 years?

TheSaint
30-01-2013, 02:44 PM
yes it does. i personally think mt should be more regular.

what fluids are everyone else using? OEM?
i think the previous owner was using redline with a friction modifier

stndrd
30-01-2013, 02:55 PM
Use Penrite full syn ATF

BigBen
30-01-2013, 04:25 PM
OK here are a couple of pictures of a 9 months old 20,000km trans fluid looks like. I pour it back from the old container and use a clear bottle to show you the difference.

If you haven't figured it out the bottle on the left is new trans fluid and the one on the right is the old trans fluid.

Notice the old fluid still has a very slight red tint but its like a black coffee colour. I know colour shouldn't really makes a difference but it does make you wonder hey?

The images comes with WARNING THESE IMAGES CONTAINS CONTENT WHICH MAY OFFEND SOME VIEWERS
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BigBen
30-01-2013, 04:32 PM
Now imagine leave that crap in the tranny for up to 120,000km or more!!

TheSaint
30-01-2013, 06:11 PM
has anyone done similar tests on manual trans?

mocchi
30-01-2013, 06:47 PM
yes it does. i personally think mt should be more regular.

spoon says change tranny oil as regular as engine oil change.

jdm is best bor

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRc-tN72T2QHCvNbbPqJk1kl_XvP46rDQLqqaZeyZhkrEQ_6efYgQ

Jasemas
30-01-2013, 07:32 PM
spoon says change tranny oil as regular as engine oil change.

jdm is best bor

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRc-tN72T2QHCvNbbPqJk1kl_XvP46rDQLqqaZeyZhkrEQ_6efYgQ

lol i swear every video i watch of Tsuchiya and his comrades
The boss of spoon ALWAYS pops out of nowhere and adds his .02 cents its funny as

Fredoops
31-01-2013, 12:21 AM
what fluids are everyone else using? OEM?
i think the previous owner was using redline with a friction modifier
I'm using redline D4.

ATF-DW1 is fine.



OK here are a couple of pictures of a 9 months old 20,000km trans fluid looks like. I pour it back from the old container and use a clear bottle to show you the difference.

If you haven't figured it out the bottle on the left is new trans fluid and the one on the right is the old trans fluid.

Notice the old fluid still has a very slight red tint but its like a black coffee colour. I know colour shouldn't really makes a difference but it does make you wonder hey?

The images comes with WARNING THESE IMAGES CONTAINS CONTENT WHICH MAY OFFEND SOME VIEWERS
23865
23864

repost that into the automatic tranny thread I started lol.

In all seriousness, if I'm not mistaken dark charred tranny fluid means its got a bit of heat stress?