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Pulsarguy
14-02-2013, 06:56 AM
Hey everyone, I am entering the Supaloc Targa within the Regularity class in my 1990 ED Civic Sedan, I am trying to find a bolt in off the shelf half cage for it before going down the fabrication road, does anyone know if a hatch cage will fit? Or does anyone have a half cage they would be willing to sell or use as a mock up.
Thanks!

trism
14-02-2013, 07:26 AM
No.

The sedan has a different roofline and a pillar profile than the hatch and crx, so you cant even use the front half.

You could probably buy a kit and try to mod it, but by the time all the work is done, it would be just as easy to do it from scratch.

Sorry for the bad news.

However, i am very interested in your car, care to share some pics?

EG9
14-02-2013, 11:20 AM
Not sure if there are any off the shelf kits for sedans but, I'm interested to hear some more about your car too... and your experience with preparing your Civic to compete in a Targa event.

HwyStar
14-02-2013, 11:47 AM
Sedan with half/4/6/8/FIA cage.
-or-
Sedan with vehicle rego.

Pick one.

Pulsarguy
14-02-2013, 01:16 PM
Thanks for the info guys, yeah I'm thinking I may just fabricate a half cage at this rate.
and the Rego isn't and issue HwyStar.
I'll upload some pics soon and a write up

~Sp33~
14-02-2013, 10:11 PM
Look forward to the pics!

VT3C
15-02-2013, 02:01 PM
have you talked to the scruitineers and gone through the regulations for entry into an official Targa series event ?

you cant just make up some ghetto cage and then expect to run.

Your cage will have to be certified along CAMS regulations (which are even stricter than FIA) and I dont think they will allow a bolt-in cage unless you're in the 'touring' or vintage class..

Pulsarguy
17-02-2013, 03:51 AM
Yes I have and it will be at minimum cams approved haha, I'm entering regularity so I can use a bolt in cage, I would run in full speed but the civic isn't competitive, I am building a 180sx for that, you guys jump to conclusions quickly, typical forum

VT3C
18-02-2013, 11:37 AM
ohh MINIMUM CAMS safety requirements.. that's funny.. is it ?

nobody jumping to conclusions bro, you're grasp on basic comunication leaves a lot to be desired.. and getting pissy at people (with obviously a lot more experience than you) wont get you very far !!

Event Regulations can be found HERE (http://targa.com.au/tc/page_standard.asp?asset_id=1761)

trism
18-02-2013, 01:37 PM
youre coming across as a bit of a dick VT3C...

Pulsarguy
18-02-2013, 03:06 PM
Yeah BRO lol hate that word, my grasp is fine, i came here just chasing specs on a hatch half cage, not someone to have a go at what I may and may not have done, when researching regulations for a comp I am entering. No need for me to explain each step I've taken before coming to this forum...

VT3C
18-02-2013, 05:53 PM
youre coming across as a bit of a dick VT3C...

Trism, I dont see skimping on safety when involved in motorsport to be a clever thing nor something to be laughed at. It isnt funny when you are injured thanks to cutting corners to avoid safety regulations that have been put in place for a good reason.

Some kid in an old ED sedan trying to fit a hatchy cage and then running in Targa to me comes off as perhaps being too keen for his own good and I was trying to refer him to the rulebooks where his queries would be clarified in black and white.

If that makes me a dick then OK.

UkuleleGod
19-02-2013, 12:22 AM
Dude, he was only asking if a hatch cage would fit?

You are the one making assumptions!

trism
19-02-2013, 06:40 AM
Trism, I dont see skimping on safety when involved in motorsport to be a clever thing nor something to be laughed at. It isnt funny when you are injured thanks to cutting corners to avoid safety regulations that have been put in place for a good reason.

Some kid in an old ED sedan trying to fit a hatchy cage and then running in Targa to me comes off as perhaps being too keen for his own good and I was trying to refer him to the rulebooks where his queries would be clarified in black and white.

If that makes me a dick then OK.


Yeah but its a bit shit assuming that this guy is just "some kid" being too keen.

Dude was just asking if a hatch cage would fit, valid question IMO, and its easier to bolt a cage in than it is to get one build and certified.

VT3C
19-02-2013, 10:41 AM
**tapping out**

chill pill taken ;)

trism
19-02-2013, 01:09 PM
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

dougie_504
20-02-2013, 12:03 PM
I know you can buy the bolt-in half cages for the CRX but like trism said its a pity it won't fit. I think Cusco made one for, for future reference, and I used to see them go for $500-1,000 used.

How much does it cost to get a custom half cage done?

VT3C
20-02-2013, 02:06 PM
about the same...500-1,000..

Try BONDS rollcages in AUS.. their cages are top notch and can be made to CAMS spec however they supply them as kits and you have to have the feet welded on etc. They have been around forever and have great customer service. These guys would probably be your best bet.

Yonas had one of these half cages in his EG..

http://www.bondrollbars.com/

Pulsarguy
23-02-2013, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the advice