View Full Version : K20 comfortable for a daily driver?
VtecForBrekkie
27-02-2013, 12:39 AM
Hey guys I'm asking for a friend and he was wondering if a K20 would be okay for a daily driver? He's considering swapping it into his 95 eg vti and wanted to hear peoples opinions with a K20 in their eg hatches or people who've had experienced a K-swapped eg.
I've heard that the idle is pretty rough and the engine noise is real loud, is this true? If the K20 would make his eg an uncomfortable daily driver then he's planning on just going with the typical B18C7 swap. He's planning on dropping the engine in stock and tracking it a couple times throughout the year and when it's due for a rebuild he's planning on rebuilding it with new goodies. Also he's planning on staying all motor if that helps.
It'd be great to get your experiences and opinions.
Thanks :)
lolmclol
27-02-2013, 01:49 AM
totes
be jus like having a k20ForBrekkie
nomsayin m8
trism
27-02-2013, 06:57 AM
look, a k20a is a damn refined, and modern engine.
Do you really think that, even in a "performance" model people are going to put up with shitty idle, loud engine noise, stupid fuel economy etc etc?
No theyre not.
If you take a stock motor, with a stock ecu, run a stock intake with an airbox, a fairly normal sized exhaust, and engine mounts that arent overly stiff, its going to be quieter, and more comfortable than the factory d series, while making a heap more power, and probably getting way better fuel economy as well.
Now, when people start to run stiffer mounts, put a big exhaust on it, an intake, cams, tune the ecu etc, of course its going to get a bit rougher, and a bit louder. But it doesnt matter what engine you do it to, thats whats gonna happen.
So for a daily driver, and especially seeing as how he is keeping it pretty stock, i wouldnt be overly worried.
EG Kswap for daily is awesome fun, it depends on what exhaust system setup you run which it will make it sound loud or just right. I love driving mine! :) Just be sensible!
Vvvtec
27-02-2013, 10:40 PM
To give you a rough idea, here's what my K24a DC2 is like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrf34ig7qOI
This car is my daily, and to be honest, its fine. Im running a 3" exhaust setup, and yes it is loud when your stomping on it. But cruising along in 6th it's comfy as. Im using 62a Hasports and a K20 oil pump, and the vibrations really arnt that bad. Also, I dont have an IACV and my idle is fine, not rough at all.
With a full interior, its a great daily drive, Start stripping interior, plastics, carpet, rear seats etc, and it's a different story.
Chr1s
28-02-2013, 08:14 AM
As Vvvvvvvvvvtec (name?) said, it's fine unless you don't run; 100A mounts, barely muffled exhaust, no sound deadening, no interior, braces that rattle, lack of well braced interior parts. I had my DC2 K24 daily for a while, but I got old of no air con, no PS, rattled, stiff back from the seat (other problems at the time), rattles, loud, etc...
Keep it as stock as you can (interior/suspension/NVH) wise and you will be fine!
LOL @ ~55s of that video it sounds like your bottom end went bang :).
Lukezen27
09-03-2013, 09:16 PM
I'm looking at either EG5 or ED K24 as a daily myself...
Can you run the stock K24 ECU?
I hate all those little things that are not quite right once running aftermarket ECU's,
Bugs the hell out of me!
Plus Honda's stock tunes are safe as there can possibly be IMO
Vvvtec
09-03-2013, 09:18 PM
I'm looking at either EG5 or ED K24 as a daily myself...
Can you run the stock K24 ECU?
I hate all those little things that are not quite right once running aftermarket ECU's,
Bugs the hell out of me!
Plus Honda's stock tunes are safe as there can possibly be IMO
No, cannot run stock k24 ecu.
It's really not that bad at all.
Chr1s
10-03-2013, 08:52 AM
There is nothing wrong with a KPro... and you will rage how crap the OEM K24 baseline tune is anyway. (not Hondata's one, verdict from driving a CL9)
fatboyz39
10-03-2013, 03:12 PM
Nothing wrong having a daily K20 in a EG.
For daily keep the exhaust 2.5' or 60mm with a nice baffled muffler (X-force twin loop or alike). If you retaining a/c, install some good slim fans.
Lukezen27
10-03-2013, 03:42 PM
Nothing wrong having a daily K20 in a EG.
For daily keep the exhaust 2.5' or 60mm with a nice baffled muffler (X-force twin loop or alike). If you retaining a/c, install some good slim fans.
Much needed to keep A/C on Kswap EG?
fatboyz39
11-03-2013, 06:33 PM
Abit of fiddling around with hoses and pipes (a/c place will make new hoese/hardlines). Most tricky bit is mounting the a/c condensor since the original mounts can't be used.
No one mentioned anything about clutches and flywheels.
That will impact on how comfortable and easy the car is to drive aswell.
Oem or Oem replacement is the way to go.
Vvvtec
12-03-2013, 12:51 AM
Exedy 3 puk and 3.9kg flywheel in mine and its totally fine for daily :)
fatboyz39
12-03-2013, 07:11 AM
OEM clutch are great, we launch a OEM k24 flywheel and clutch @ 7500rpm on slicks with no slippage.
rhys.l
12-03-2013, 09:15 AM
Been in the Vvvtec machine and the clutch and flywheel setup is perfectly fine for a daily driver. If you can't handle that you should be driving an auto.
u mad?
07-06-2013, 04:46 AM
OEM clutch are great, we launch a OEM k24 flywheel and clutch @ 7500rpm on slicks with no slippage.
mind blown
edit- woops old thread
OEM clutch are great, we launch a OEM k24 flywheel and clutch @ 7500rpm on slicks with no slippage.
Physics => out the window
BYP Racing & Developments
Built. Tuned. Driven
mocchi
07-06-2013, 10:19 AM
OEM clutch are great, we launch a OEM k24 flywheel and clutch @ 7500rpm on slicks with no slippage.
it doesnt go dun dun dun?
curtis265
07-06-2013, 03:28 PM
nice thread.
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