How will my civic beat a type r!!..

[CONAN]

Can you list down what is needed for a Civic Ek4 Vti-R hatch to beat a Type R with[airfilter] .

I need the right list of mods, brand name if u want.

I've done a search but can't find anything like this, just how to make it quicker etc.

If not beat a Type R, keeping up is good enough.

[J-MuN]

boost it or else engine swap... B18C7... if u cant beat them, join them :D

[JINRAI]

lol.................................sorry

[Kawasaki]

get some NOS :D

Why and how do you want to beat a type r? Its gunna munch joo up son

[LAGOOT]

i agree with J-mun

[SiR JDM]

how do you define "beat"?

Beat in a drag? beat in around a circuit? be more specific.

There is no "special list" that will magically make u beat a type R.
If your talking drags, it largely depends on your and the type R drivers skill.. launch reaction time means alot...

if your after a quick fix... AVO stage 1 or 2 turbo kit and you'll be running some quick 1/4 mile times and *kill* that type R... :rolleyes:

[Chi]

If u wanna beat a dc2r with ur ek4 !

Add altezzas and big chromes!

Itll beat it in ugliness!!

[panda[cRx]]

you will need chi's DIY cupholder and a slap in the face for asking the question (-_-)

[Integra]

depends how much are u willing to spend
BOOST, swap for b18c7 or u can just tune the f**k out of your b16a

[zco]

if u want to beat the type R, the the "special list of mods" will only need one item. --->a shit type R driver

[tRipitaka]

if u want to beat the type R, the the "special list of mods" will only need one item. --->a shit type R driver

Or a type r with no engine in it.

[J-MuN]

Y do u wanna beat a Type R soooo badly?... jus race a AUS spec DC5R... its a type R and you'll beat it :D ( looks @ jinrai :rolleyes: )

[panda[cRx]]

there is no way he could beat jinrai!!!!
...coz jinrai never drives his car!

[J-MuN]

']there is no way he could beat jinrai!!!!
...coz jinrai never drives his car!
hahahaha!!... hey lawz, u cant talk either :cool:

[panda[cRx]]

yeah but thats co zmy car is off the road, not coz i'm scared to drive it

[z3lda]

get a stroke kit, type R cam/springs/ pistons/rods/ ITB/ITR gearbox and a titanium type R gear box. then ull beat it

[TODA AU]

Can you list down what is needed for a Civic Ek4 Vti-R hatch to beat a Type R with[airfilter] .

I need the right list of mods, brand name if u want.

I've done a search but can't find anything like this, just how to make it quicker etc.

If not beat a Type R, keeping up is good enough.

For an EK4 VtiR to convincingly beat a Type R, do this...
#1 – Lightweight flywheel
#2 – Heavy duty clutch
#3 – Lower final drive & LSD
#4 – Intake (CAI that actually works. Ingen, AEM, Mugen)
#5 – Header + cat + cat-back system (As best you can afford)
#6 – Spec C camshafts / valve springs / adjustable cam pulleys / oil pump gear / fuel pump / fuel pressure regulator / ECU / dyno tuning.
Power output: 116~118kw @ wheels (Dyno dynamics – 4F shootout)

For even better all round performance, add a 1.8L stroker kit & change the camshafts to Spec B's.

To "just" keep up, use Type R cams as drop in's with VAFC II or similar.
You'll still need a fuel pump & regulator.

[fusion_VTi]

2 words mate, boost it

[Knyte]

I would have to agree with J-Mun. Turbocharging your current engine or do an engine swap. Doing an engine swap will allow you to aim for bigger HP's in future which will give you more in the end than what you have now.
But working on yours is also more than enough to beat a Type R no problems.
Again it always comes down to $$$$

[MKI4EVA]

For an EK4 VtiR to convincingly beat a Type R, do this...
#1 – Lightweight flywheel
#2 – Heavy duty clutch
#3 – Lower final drive & LSD
#4 – Intake (CAI that actually works. Ingen, AEM, Mugen)
#5 – Header + cat + cat-back system (As best you can afford)
#6 – Spec C camshafts / valve springs / adjustable cam pulleys / oil pump gear / fuel pump / fuel pressure regulator / ECU / dyno tuning.
Power output: 116~118kw @ wheels (Dyno dynamics – 4F shootout)

For even better all round performance, add a 1.8L stroker kit & change the camshafts to Spec B's.

To "just" keep up, use Type R cams as drop in's with VAFC II or similar.
You'll still need a fuel pump & regulator.

niceeee.......... :thumbsup:

[Steer^Gimic]

put the car on a diet before you do so much friggn work as everyone's suggested
then learn to drive properly
then mods

[type one]

yeah im down with toda au's mod list... this will be a convincing NA victory :)

who do i give my money to?? hahahaha

[JINRAI]

Y do u wanna beat a Type R soooo badly?... jus race a AUS spec DC5R... its a type R and you'll beat it :D ( looks @ jinrai :rolleyes: )

HOW the hell do you know? You've never beaten on me on my worst day or even when i miss a gear :D

[garett]

get some decent tyres and learn to launch that little piggy
its not all about winning its about giving something with big shoes to fill a scare that they will not tell people about :wave:

[garett]

put the car on a diet before you do so much friggn work as everyone's suggested
then learn to drive properly
then mods
__________________
EF8 CRX SiR

johnny by this do you mean gut the interior?
including the spare wheel? i dont want any calls when you get a flatty call dane!

[[[d a n n y]]]

id say boost it mate

[Steer^Gimic]

shutup garett we made a deal. your on standby for when i get a flat. dane wont want to get his ralph lauren business shirt dirty trying to help me!!! haha

[civic_99]

sell it and buy a Type R, then there u go, ur civic beat type r

[CONAN]

ok, after reading Toda_AU's msg, i've changed my mind
it'll cost to much, rather leave it stock standard and get something quicker later

thanks for your input
for now, maybe just a INJEN CAI!

[ATSEK4]

For an EK4 VtiR to convincingly beat a Type R, do this...
#1 – Lightweight flywheel
#2 – Heavy duty clutch
#3 – Lower final drive & LSD
#4 – Intake (CAI that actually works. Ingen, AEM, Mugen)
#5 – Header + cat + cat-back system (As best you can afford)
#6 – Spec C camshafts / valve springs / adjustable cam pulleys / oil pump gear / fuel pump / fuel pressure regulator / ECU / dyno tuning.
Power output: 116~118kw @ wheels (Dyno dynamics – 4F shootout)

For even better all round performance, add a 1.8L stroker kit & change the camshafts to Spec B's.

To "just" keep up, use Type R cams as drop in's with VAFC II or similar.
You'll still need a fuel pump & regulator.

how about thinner headgasket ? head pore and polish? Bigger intake manifold? how big final drive ? Must be a Spec C? can't be spec A or B? i heard that spec B is not very good on civic but good on dc2, dun know about C tho. thx

[Vivski]

Power output: 116~118kw @ wheels (Dyno dynamics – 4F shootout)
What does a bog standard EK VTi-R do atw to start with?

[Astro]

What does a bog standard EK VTi-R do atw to start with?

bout 78-80kw atw

[Snoop_gee]

If u wanna beat a dc2r with ur ek4 !

Add altezzas and big chromes!

Itll beat it in ugliness!!
hahahah :D

[Q_ball]

engine swap its ass lol
to a b18c or similar...ur power to weight ratio will beat a type r

[garett]

yeh mate i guess that dane wouldnt like to get his shirt dirtl let alone his hands. he is a fag!

yeh ill come and help you as long as im not in mt gambier! :thumbsup:

[FANATK]

strip everything from the car except dash and drivers seat, get a bottle of octane boost, run 1/4 tank of fuel, practice your starts and then run the R!

[pgclee]

Type R cams,valve springs, retainers, adj cam gear, thinner head gasket, shave cilinder head, fuel press reg, fuel pump, Ecu and final Drive...


hmm..might be able to keep up...hmm...

or do what TODA AU said...much better!..

[BlitZ]

can civic b16a internals run toda c's at 9k?

[panda[cRx]]

with the right internals a b16a civic hatch will have no probs with type r's or s2k's, Loonee's yellow EK is a perfect example of that

[ATSEK4]

can civic b16a internals run toda c's at 9k?

The thing is CAN C CAM RUN WITH STAND PISTONS ? toda pistons required i saw the web site.

[J-MuN]

']with the right internals a b16a civic hatch will have no probs with type r's or s2k's, Loonee's yellow EK is a perfect example of that
such as.....lawz?... :o

[kez13]

Dont muck around, simply put a type R motor in cause you're not going to get much more power by bolting on mods.......if you cant beat them join them! Hehehe
Boost is your next option

[panda[cRx]]

such as.....lawz?... :o

i dont know off the top of my head but i'd say itwas pretty similar to the list adrian put up. i'll ask my mechanic that built the engine, otherwise u can ask loonee himself;)

[LatinoHatchCrap]

Im not even gona bother wasting my input on this one

:goes to the bar fridge and grabs a beer:

[spoondc2]

The thing is CAN C CAM RUN WITH STAND PISTONS ? toda pistons required i saw the web site.

You can but you will never get the power out of the cam

My fd have very good results with Toda B + CTR piston, of course with some other mods

[BlitZ]

IF i get type r throttle body and manifold
type r cams, value springs, retainers, port and polish head
up compression to r spec

would my output be same as r?

[sivic]

no. believe it or not, displacement actually counts for something:rolleyes: also, the b16 intake manifold is better suited to the b16 then the type r item

[LatinoHatchCrap]

IF i get type r throttle body and manifold
type r cams, value springs, retainers, port and polish head
up compression to r spec

would my output be same as r?

A stock R maybe! But an ITR with same mods as you and the right tuning will allways be ahead of you in power :S
You need to take advantage of your chasiss by dropping as much weight as possible.
You should then look into your tranny and add a light weight flywheel/4.785 final drive and LSD.
Power wise you already have a head that flows comparably well compared to the R's. Your main weakness is your lack of displacement.
I would recomend you source a second hand R block,mate that to your head and drop some CTR/ITR cams with ITR valve train, Tune with Hondata and you'll beat R's daily and twice on Sunday.
Sorry about the rant.

-Joe

[mj3610]

i only have one advice for u if u wanna beat a type R, DRUG THE DRIVER or cut off his foot so cant clutch and change gears cause thats the onli way u will beta him unless u spend major cash on ur car which is not worth it.

[SiR JDM]

I agree entirely with Joe. Type R internals, Intake Manifold and TB (even tho its a very debatable mod as to where the gains lie, or even if they exist), you will still be down .2 litres on displacement, which means torque.

Use the lightweight chassis to your advantage and diet as best you can. Again, like Joe said, a light weight flywheel (4kg range) and a nice FD (ITR gearbox, replace gears etc).
Use your NA car to its potential. Create a nice, free-flowing air system. Direct Cold Air Intake (create a direct cold air feed, whilst sheilding as much excess hot air from the engine bay as possible), nicely matched H/E setup and then a proper ECU tune and you will see considerate gains.

[temeike]

get a type r engine

[|N|]

get a type r

[HONDATEC]

remove your air filter element and the box below the front left rail and replace it with a 3 inch flex piping and make it run down to the front bar to an opening so the engine only gets cold air from out side.

then knock the guts out of your cattelack conveter and run a straight through pipe through the cattelack converter.

then get $800 and buy a TODA flywheel.

and last of all when taking off release the clutch till it's slightly grabbing and rev the car to 8000rpm taking off trying to limit wheel spin ( dont ride it to much, baisically it t6ake a few times to get use to it.

[HONDATEC]

drivers side rail.

[BlitZ]

no. believe it or not, displacement actually counts for something:rolleyes: also, the b16 intake manifold is better suited to the b16 then the type r item

ahahhah believe it or not ... you can get type r engine in 1.6ltr b16b - i was comparing output not displacement....

[JDM.Power]

its not about what you got under the hood its how you drive it...but the way you would be it is.."Wieght reduction, nitto tires and a OH sticker" an drive like schuey if you can :P

[panda[cRx]]

then knock the guts out of your cattelack conveter and run a straight through pipe through the cattelack converter.


not only wll that not give him a performance benefit it is also highly illegal and attracts something like a $5k fine :thumbdwn:

oh and 'cattelack converter' = catalytic converter:rolleyes:

[MACBOYZ78]

try turbo man. hopely u can beat the type r :)

[Q_ball]

quite easily...
jst drop a complete new engine into ya civic...a b18c possibly
ur power to weight ratio will get u across the line!

[J-MuN]

this thread is still going?? :p maaaan, just go buy yourself a Type R!!

[|N|]

if u cant beat them ... join them..

[thanh]

Paul mate,

The way you drive it, you cant KEEP up with a type r

[edw-R]

beat type R??? Why don't try beat wrx......................

[CONAN]

blah.. s2000 here i come!

[CONAN]

how much would it cost to drop in a type r engine, g/b, clutch, and would i need bigger brakes?

[Limbo]

buy a half-cut for about $3.5-4k and do all the work yourself.

[industrie]

why dont you just get a dc2r or dc5R..or even a s2k...or even better a s15

[edw-R]

Where do you find type R half cut just $3.5-$4k?? I want one spare for my car.:D


buy a half-cut for about $3.5-4k and do all the work yourself.

[BlitZ]

2 X (
Where do you find type R half cut just $3.5-$4k?? I want one spare for my car.:D )

[ATSEK4]

buy a half-cut for about $3.5-4k and do all the work yourself.

can someone tell him how he will beat a type R with his EK4? dun just keep saying pointless stuff like get type R engine.

[edw-R]

I saw one EK4 with toda A cam, power fc, ATS 4.929 final drive....etc. He beated stock ITR(one car length).

[CONAN]

would fitting a B18C7 motor into my ek4 ruin the whole balance of the car??

i.e. brakes, suspension, handling?

[edw-R]

Due to the power increase, you need to upgrade your brake system if you drive very hard. If you want to improve your handling, you may step by step to upgrade your car. Such as, coilover, stru. bar, LSD..etc.

[gelo]

beat type R??? Why don't try beat wrx......................


beat one at wakefield
stock for stock

[Sweet-Peach]

well. drink some wine and drive crazily !!~

[Sweet-Peach]

ya, you give him money then he can modify step by step or you sponsor him!! Great Idea

[thanh]

Never!

[heist]

holy old post batman!

[integraz]

seriously, if u wanna beat a type r get a gtr or something. or go for k20a engine swap,or a fully built engine for turbo. because in the end the type-r will still own u.

like if ur car is modded lets say, cams, exhaust and the usual upgrades and maybe a bit more. ull definately beat the type -r, but a stock one that is.

and i dont think there are many stock type-r, [Not many..lol], and if the type r had engine work it would also own u, so in the end your never gonna win the battle.

unless if u go engine swap, turbo, or get a car that can beat it.

and also you'll have to upgrade brakes, sussy and etc.

[spoondc2]

Just drive better..... you could never beat a type-r if the guy has the same skills like you. The reasons why it's that hard to beat a type-r is the good balance setup by the factory, but not on a civic non R

You could do mods on your civic but the type-r could do the same thing also, so just try to squeeze out everything on your car and you'll be fast enough no matter what car are you driving. This is my thoughts

[dc2dc2dc2]

turbo easiest option.

[HVL]

just try to squeeze out everything on your car and you'll be fast enough no matter what car are you driving.


very true !!!!! personal experience, if u can drive your car to the 100% of its potential, u will beat a tpre-r with a lesser driver(someone that can't drive its type r to its max potential). At the end of the day, all it comes down to is driving skill.

[jdmlvn]

turbbo it up YO!

[n/a]

turbo easiest option.

taking the easy way out.. boring! :thumbdwn:

[h22a accord]

Im so over driving skill. Im a bloody volvo driver!

[BLKEM1]

Driving a honda is not all about power, its about balanced performance and reliability. To me driving a type R/s2000 can be more fun than a stock R32/33 GTR on the track & street, ITS ALL ABOUT PERSONAL ENJOYMENT, if you want big power and speed, Honda is not the car for you!!!! :)

[J-MuN]

ITS ALL ABOUT PERSONAL ENJOYMENT, if you want big power and speed, Honda is not the car for you!!!! :)werd. honda's are slow.

[TypeG]

Honda are slow but we like it

[Da1nONLY]

how fast do you want to go anyways? =)
Speed limit is 70 on high ways....
i reckon my Type R is sufficient for every day driving....
goes great for what it is... just a puny 1.8L.. but hey!!
its good on the fuel :D

You'll be surprised what it'll do to a "Nissan" Pulsar SSS 2.0L.. :)

[ATSEK4]

honda for life

[exquisit]

lol
get a rebuilt motor

[8100rpm]

how fast do you want to go anyways? =)
Speed limit is 70 on high ways....
i reckon my Type R is sufficient for every day driving....
goes great for what it is... just a puny 1.8L.. but hey!!
its good on the fuel :D

You'll be surprised what it'll do to a "Nissan" Pulsar SSS 2.0L.. :)

even my civic vtir coupe beat the sss 2litre when vtec kicks in its so fun to beat a bigger engine, honda is awsome

[BlitZ]

i dont think i would sell my car for an teg r ..........

i love my car too much... even though it might be more money to get a b18c5/7 into my civic........ but i'd still perfer it..

This would have sounded stupid to me 4 years ago... but ive grown with this car.. its been with me hell and back.... never broken down.. i pretty much know every bolt and screw on it.........

ill wait until the engine blows and get a b18c or somthing... but i dont think i can ever blow this b16a2......... it is stronger than ever...........

If i wanted to beat an R u definitly need more displacement...... unless u have some kick us engine..

cheapest way to do it!! B20 /crvtec........ could be done under 2k.... and you should beat a r.......... or atleast keep up with it........

[panda]

if you are staying na, swap in a b18cr, best bang for buck and you can sell your b16 to recover some of the costs :D

[hotcvic]

Forced induction is your only chance mate, if you can afford it, go turbo, or an easy bolt-on then get a Jackson Racing supercharger kit from the USA.

[VTi_b0i]

does anyone know how much roughly a integra VTi-R halfcut costs? and a type R halfcut? was thinkn bout going b16a, but i want to be doing 13s one day so i figure in the long run itll be better starting wif a better motor...

[Perry]

i dont think i would sell my car for an teg r ..........

i love my car too much... even though it might be more money to get a b18c5/7 into my civic........ but i'd still perfer it..

This would have sounded stupid to me 4 years ago... but ive grown with this car.. its been with me hell and back.... never broken down.. i pretty much know every bolt and screw on it.........

ill wait until the engine blows and get a b18c or somthing... but i dont think i can ever blow this b16a2......... it is stronger than ever...........

If i wanted to beat an R u definitly need more displacement...... unless u have some kick us engine..

cheapest way to do it!! B20 /crvtec........ could be done under 2k.... and you should beat a r.......... or atleast keep up with it........

wif out doing strengthing internals for b20 vtec i dont think so it will keep up wif typeR's

[Chi]

under 2k? lol

noob ****.

[blackek4]

like someone said, u can buy speed but u can't buy skill.
actually ek4 is good enough with b16a2 engine. u should mod for suspension better than power because u can't drive fast all the time, got a speed limited on the street.
if u really want beat type r you should beat it on a track by your skill, this will save your money and improve yourself.

[kayot1k]

would this thread stop already,
it sucks, everyone knows the mighty b16a will shit on the b18's.

[BlitZ]

under 2k? lol

noob ****.

DIY stupid... you dont know a clutch from a brake peddle... noob kakka dont make me laugh especially coming from you

should cost 1600 with the following (parts assistance by tinkerbell(dave)):

B20B8 block
B16A head - must already have
ARP rod bolts (201-6001)
ARP head studs (201-4306)
Sard FPR----
B16A water pump ----
B18C timing belt----
B20B head gasket ----
B20B thermostat ---
Golden Eagle oil line kit ---


And i also know a person who works at home who would drop the engine out and put it back in for $250......

If u get him to drop it out.. and u make the changes to the engine it would cost you under 2k........



and when comparing in pricing the price of a b18c5 would set you back over 3 k to begin with..

[VTi_b0i]

should cost 1600 with the following:

B20B8 block
B16A head - must already have
ARP rod bolts (201-6001)
ARP head studs (201-4306)
Sard FPR----
B16A water pump ----
B18C timing belt----
B20B head gasket ----
B20B thermostat ---
Golden Eagle oil line kit ---


where can i find this motor for 1600? lol i want one :) how much kw atw we talkin?

[BlitZ]

where can i find this motor for 1600? lol i want one :) how much kw atw we talkin?

ask around and do a shit load more reading.. there heaps of info on this motor set up

[Perry]

DIY stupid... you dont know a clutch from a brake peddle... noob kakka dont make me laugh especially coming from you

should cost 1600 with the following:

B20B8 block
B16A head - must already have
ARP rod bolts (201-6001)
ARP head studs (201-4306)
Sard FPR----
B16A water pump ----
B18C timing belt----
B20B head gasket ----
B20B thermostat ---
Golden Eagle oil line kit ---


And i also know a person who works at home who would drop the engine out and put it back in for $250......

If u get him to drop it out.. and u make the changes to the engine it would cost you under 2k........



and when comparing in pricing the price of a b18c5 would set you back over 3 k to begin with..

not bad:thumbsup:
but u forgot about resleeving if u want to make it rev a bit high?

[Civic Type R]

I was level with the DC2R with EK4 and these mods.
Full intake, 4-1 header, full exhaust, ITR transmission with LSD.
But i couldnt pull away from it.

[VT3C]

I was level with the DC2R with EK4 and these mods.
Full intake, 4-1 header, full exhaust, ITR transmission with LSD.
But i couldnt pull away from it.

yeah you'd be surprised how a mildly modded B16 in a civic can keep up with a DC2-R.. have had a few rolling runs with a stock ITR on the freeway and I got past him every time.. from standing it was very even.

I think it must come down to driver.. but one night I had the opportunity to 'test-drive' a bone-stock 01 DC2-R with only 40,000kms.. raced a EG with B16A with TODA B's (untuned) and JUST lost !! I was amazed and stoked for the civic cause I was hammering the ITR at rev-limit etc.

but anyway yeh type R speed is not THAT hard to reach with a hybrid.. swap the type R B18C into your civic and chop all.

[Civic Type R]

Simons Civic is bloody LOUD !

[Cyrus]

This was what I had on my civic to beat type-Rs (even those with air filter and exhaust)

Spoon Cams, Springs, Cam Gears and Gasket and twin core radiator, earls oil cooler
Apexi Power FC, Filter with cold air intake
Fujitsubo 4-2-1 headers, high flow cat, Buddy Club spec 2/Spoon N1 exhaust
Tein HA coilovers, Cusco Struct Braces
Brake upgrades include endless pads, and brake lines, cusco master cylinder
It still had stock internals

This setup will beat type-Rs and I've never been scared of one....
Was planning for a final drive and LSD, that will kill type-R's with no problem
Mind you, it's kind of scary when I had the cams in coz for a tiny 1.6L,...I was still accelerating at full song going into turn 2 at wakefield (stockies will know their acceleration has already started to tail off)
Well, I rev all the way to 9,000 for gear change (rev cuts at 9,500-9700, forgotten the exact setting)
Took awhile to get the overall balance right too
It was worth it just to see those 4WD turbos and skylines getting their arse wasted at wakefield
But sold the car to go overseas, so it's not in my possession anymore...if i did,...i reckon the final gear, LSD would be in with an upcoming spoon engine (all the way to 11,000rpm)!!!!

[Perry]

This was what I had on my civic to beat type-Rs (even those with air filter and exhaust)

Spoon Cams, Springs, Cam Gears and Gasket and twin core radiator, earls oil cooler
Apexi Power FC, Filter with cold air intake
Fujitsubo 4-2-1 headers, high flow cat, Buddy Club spec 2/Spoon N1 exhaust
Tein HA coilovers, Cusco Struct Braces
Brake upgrades include endless pads, and brake lines, cusco master cylinder
It still had stock internals

This setup will beat type-Rs and I've never been scared of one....
Was planning for a final drive and LSD, that will kill type-R's with no problem
Mind you, it's kind of scary when I had the cams in coz for a tiny 1.6L,...I was still accelerating at full song going into turn 2 at wakefield (stockies will know their acceleration has already started to tail off)
Well, I rev all the way to 9,000 for gear change (rev cuts at 9,500-9700, forgotten the exact setting)
Took awhile to get the overall balance right too
It was worth it just to see those 4WD turbos and skylines getting their arse wasted at wakefield
But sold the car to go overseas, so it's not in my possession anymore...if i did,...i reckon the final gear, LSD would be in with an upcoming spoon engine (all the way to 11,000rpm)!!!!

nice:thumbsup: set up

[V-techWhore]

should cost 1600 with the following (parts assistance by tinkerbell(dave)):

B20B8 block
B16A head - must already have
ARP rod bolts (201-6001)
ARP head studs (201-4306)
Sard FPR----
B16A water pump ----
B18C timing belt----
B20B head gasket ----
B20B thermostat ---
Golden Eagle oil line kit ---


And i also know a person who works at home who would drop the engine out and put it back in for $250......


No Ecu or resleeving?

And dont u have to get it engineeered?

Thats easily over 2k if u include the 1600

other thing su may consider:

bigger radiator
And mabe a CRV fuel pump to provide sufficent fuel to teh engine

[VT3C]

Spoon Cams, Springs, Cam Gears and Gasket and twin core radiator, earls oil cooler
Apexi Power FC, Filter with cold air intake
Fujitsubo 4-2-1 headers, high flow cat, Buddy Club spec 2/Spoon N1 exhaust
Tein HA coilovers, Cusco Struct Braces
Brake upgrades include endless pads, and brake lines, cusco master cylinder
It still had stock internals


drool...

and yeah simon's is loud with 2.5" no resonator plus stainless 4-1 header.. that's why he's on his 9th canary !!

[CONAN]

nice:thumbsup: set up

How much did this setup cost you Cyrus??

[Perry]

i hope mine will go as hard as that

[BlitZ]

how good are spoon cams.. there are only a few people that run them and they all produce fairly good results.. ive heard that they are slightly more aggressive then toda a's...

How many kw atw did u get? what compression were u running if u dont mind me asking?

[ATSEK4]

This was what I had on my civic to beat type-Rs (even those with air filter and exhaust)

Spoon Cams, Springs, Cam Gears and Gasket and twin core radiator, earls oil cooler
Apexi Power FC, Filter with cold air intake
Fujitsubo 4-2-1 headers, high flow cat, Buddy Club spec 2/Spoon N1 exhaust
Tein HA coilovers, Cusco Struct Braces
Brake upgrades include endless pads, and brake lines, cusco master cylinder
It still had stock internals

This setup will beat type-Rs and I've never been scared of one....
Was planning for a final drive and LSD, that will kill type-R's with no problem
Mind you, it's kind of scary when I had the cams in coz for a tiny 1.6L,...I was still accelerating at full song going into turn 2 at wakefield (stockies will know their acceleration has already started to tail off)
Well, I rev all the way to 9,000 for gear change (rev cuts at 9,500-9700, forgotten the exact setting)
Took awhile to get the overall balance right too
It was worth it just to see those 4WD turbos and skylines getting their arse wasted at wakefield
But sold the car to go overseas, so it's not in my possession anymore...if i did,...i reckon the final gear, LSD would be in with an upcoming spoon engine (all the way to 11,000rpm)!!!!

ha ha. Dun trust you.

[spoondc2]

ha ha. Dun trust you.

Why? That's someone's ex-car......

[ATSEK4]

Why? That's someone's ex-car......

Yeah i know everything about this green civic. Final drive + LSD Can never get the car rev higher. not 11000 all the way.

[Civic Type R]

with a Spoon engine he did say ..

[Civic Type R]

and a motec exhaust

[ROCKET]

so conan have u decided wat ur gona do ??

some of the post on here wer real good info


cheers

[Cyrus]

How much did this setup cost you Cyrus??

I bought the car with most of the suspension and drivetrain parts in...
I guess if u talking of the overall package...cost me about 22k including the car though i am estimating only....I guess just have to say, there was never really a set budget,...I spend if I needed to.....

[Cyrus]

Yeah i know everything about this green civic. Final drive + LSD Can never get the car rev higher. not 11000 all the way.

You know about this green civic as in this green civic or you know about EK4
If u really know this civic as in this particular,..I can tell u, the car went a long way since the previous owner:cool:

If it's just EK4 in general,..this engine obviously can't get to 11,000rpm...if it could,...,why the heck am I spending on a spoon engine for..;)

[BlitZ]

This car wouldnt to happen be the car that tracks with bel performance?

[V-techWhore]

If it's just EK4 in general,..this engine obviously can't get to 11,000rpm...if it could,...,why the heck am I spending on a spoon engine for..;)

Its because ur a spoon whore like 80% of the people on the forum

[jdmTYPE R]

b20b bottom end with your b16a run hi comp will knock out the type r

[Perry]

b20b bottom end with your b16a run hi comp will knock out the type r

its not that easy doing b20b conversion and beating a R wifout any engine problems

[Cyrus]

This car wouldnt to happen be the car that tracks with bel performance?

Used to before I left aussie

[BlitZ]

Saw it at EC on an open day ages ago.. I was in the black coupe.. This car screams.. ahhaha
the funny thing it was even louder than the open wheelers that were there...

[sydteg21]

two ways to go ,you can boost it or engine conversion,at same time weight reduction.

[ATSEK4]

with a Spoon engine he did say ..

oh ic.. sorry.

[thanh]

your dreaming

[defect]

Buy a new car :D

[Civic Type R]

way to dig up an old thread...

[spetz]

I thought a VTi-R hatch would already be getting pretty close to DC2R straight line performance?
I mean, with good extractors, exhaust, CAI, bigger TB, intake manifold and a tune it should beat a ITR?

[bennjamin]

no ithink it would need a few more mods transmission wise etc.

Still , this thread is yonks old.

Its proven - without major mods to a vtir ( both EK or DC variant) they will not beat a type R version of the same car.

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