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Honda
12-04-2013, 08:24 PM
Looking to get some recommendations when servicing my brakes.

- For the brake slides, is it better to put grease or silicone?
- What is the compound is used on the shime (back of the brake pad)?
- What compound is used on the piston?

mocchi
12-04-2013, 08:45 PM
http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/898/Brake_Front_caliper_rebuild_kit.jpg

google pic

part# not for ek

connorling
12-04-2013, 10:51 PM
always use silicone compound for brakes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kf8C4Qxu-A

Honda
13-04-2013, 12:40 AM
always use silicone compound for brakes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kf8C4Qxu-A

Is the rear brake in the video very similar to an EK? and do you know where to buy the tool he used to push the piston back in or will a screwdriver suffice?



Also, instead of clamping the hose when pushing the piston in. Is it ok to open the lid on brake fluid and push the piston back in (I've seen this as a common approach)?

Baby Face
13-04-2013, 12:56 AM
i used a crow bar (the end is more pointed for jamming things, but its bent so its easy to turn it at the other end)
when i did my dc2 rear ones, just turn it clockwise, righty tighty.

good idea to do it slow so the rubber doesnt get stretched too fast n rips.

Honda
13-04-2013, 01:08 AM
Something like this? http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Brake-Adjusting-Tool-185mm.aspx?pid=12535#Cross

The tool is quite expensive! http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Disc-Brake-Spreader.aspx?pid=12534#Cross

aaronng
13-04-2013, 06:26 AM
Something like this? http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Brake-Adjusting-Tool-185mm.aspx?pid=12535#Cross

The tool is quite expensive! http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Disc-Brake-Spreader.aspx?pid=12534#Cross
I use this to push back the rear disc brakes.
http://images.superstreetonline.com/techarticles/130_22_z+acura_rsx_s_brake_install+compress_piston .jpg

Baby Face
14-04-2013, 07:56 PM
Yes this: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Brake-Adjusting-Tool-185mm.aspx?pid=12535#Cross tool will suffice for the rears all u need is a massive screwdriver that isnt too small to put twisting pressure on without hurting the piston and ur hand, and nothing too sharp edged sitting close to the rubber boot around the piston.

i think this:http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Disc-Brake-Spreader.aspx?pid=12534#Cross tool is designed for front ones just to Spread the pistons apart they can be handy but from memory i just used the first tool again and pried them away from each other with the old pads in there if u do it with the new ones it can damage them and its just a waste. some other manufacturers you can use this tool for front and rear but hondas mostly have the cross as you have discovered and its a b!tch to move unless your turn it like a screw and tighten it back into itself.

Honda
14-04-2013, 09:12 PM
Yes this: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Brake-Adjusting-Tool-185mm.aspx?pid=12535#Cross tool will suffice for the rears all u need is a massive screwdriver that isnt too small to put twisting pressure on without hurting the piston and ur hand, and nothing too sharp edged sitting close to the rubber boot around the piston.

i think this:http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Disc-Brake-Spreader.aspx?pid=12534#Cross tool is designed for front ones just to Spread the pistons apart they can be handy but from memory i just used the first tool again and pried them away from each other with the old pads in there if u do it with the new ones it can damage them and its just a waste. some other manufacturers you can use this tool for front and rear but hondas mostly have the cross as you have discovered and its a b!tch to move unless your turn it like a screw and tighten it back into itself.

I ended up purchasing this http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Rear-Disc-Brake-Piston-Tool.aspx?pid=105532#Cross and a G-clamp for the front brakes if I need it.

Also got some bendix synthetic lube for the caliper pins, shims, piston slides etc. Apparently, it can be used for all purposes. http://www.bendix.com.au/content/high_performance_brake_lubricant It was $1.99 per satchel at SCA.

Jasemas
14-04-2013, 09:53 PM
I ended up purchasing this http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Rear-Disc-Brake-Piston-Tool.aspx?pid=105532#Cross and a G-clamp for the front brakes if I need it.

Also got some bendix synthetic lube for the caliper pins, shims, piston slides etc. Apparently, it can be used for all purposes. http://www.bendix.com.au/content/high_performance_brake_lubricant It was $1.99 per satchel at SCA.

I used that lube yesterday for my rear brakes - surprisingly SCA didn't have the packets but AutoPro did
I want a tin of this stuff damnit
For the piston i just used my needle nosed pliers and used the caliper cover as a wedge to give me better leverage when turning the piston in

Honda
14-04-2013, 10:05 PM
I used that lube yesterday for my rear brakes - surprisingly SCA didn't have the packets but AutoPro did
I want a tin of this stuff damnit
For the piston i just used my needle nosed pliers and used the caliper cover as a wedge to give me better leverage when turning the piston in

It was quite small! I had to ask the staff to find me it (I've walked pass it about 3 times without realising).

How do they perform on the caliper pins compared to other products?

DreadAngel
14-04-2013, 10:14 PM
I used that lube yesterday for my rear brakes - surprisingly SCA didn't have the packets but AutoPro did
I want a tin of this stuff damnit
For the piston i just used my needle nosed pliers and used the caliper cover as a wedge to give me better leverage when turning the piston in

I purchased I think it was CRC Brake Quiet? in a bottle from Repco =)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21UnxTnIOZL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Dunno if that's the same as what you guys got, I know CRC also have the Brake Grease in a can off my head...

Jasemas
14-04-2013, 10:34 PM
Always thought grease was a big no-no for rubber on rubber contact or rubber on metal
That's why i used the synthetic silicone stuff

Baby Face
15-04-2013, 03:10 AM
I TOLD YOU, your squeek was your brake shims n shit.

just needed lube.

connorling
29-04-2013, 09:13 AM
Is the rear brake in the video very similar to an EK? and do you know where to buy the tool he used to push the piston back in or will a screwdriver suffice?



Also, instead of clamping the hose when pushing the piston in. Is it ok to open the lid on brake fluid and push the piston back in (I've seen this as a common approach)?

either use a C-clamp or a big screw driverhttps://anywiki.csc.kth.se/DD2425/lib/exe/fetch.php?w=300&h=200&media=wiki:tool_pictionary:c_clamp.jpg

KeeFy
06-05-2013, 10:29 PM
Something like this? http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Brake-Adjusting-Tool-185mm.aspx?pid=12535#Cross

The tool is quite expensive! http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Stanley-Disc-Brake-Spreader.aspx?pid=12534#Cross


That is a rip off!

Delivered to your home!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Disc-Brake-Pad-Spreader-Front-Caliper-Compressor-Tool-Piston-Holden-Ford-Toyota-/400333784220?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d35c0c49c&_uhb=1

Or 3x cheaper

http://www.bunnings.com.au/products_product_disc-brake-spreader-kincrome-8062_P6100370.aspx

DUH. Supercheap has always been a kinda ripoff imo.

Baby Face
07-05-2013, 12:46 AM
wow bunnings has them quite cheap.

meh you could spend millions on the correct too for every single job, but better off getting every day stuff to work for you, if not then buy the tool.
hence i used a crowbar.

ecraig
08-05-2013, 08:15 AM
You can use rubber grease or sliding grease on the slides, if you use bendix brake pads you wont have to put any compound on the shim or piston. If you dont use bendix you will have to use anti-squeak on the shim.

Evok
15-05-2013, 01:38 PM
Make sure ur pistons are straight , don't want uneven wear on ur pads