Rotor and brake pad recommendations

[FoShizz]

Hey all,

need some recommendations for best bang for buck slotted rotor and brake pad upgrade but still able to use OEM caliper.
I dont mind paying for new calipers aswell but itll all depend on pricing in the end.. looking to change both front and rear.
Currently driving a DC5R, not used on track, but spirited driving here and there

Cheers! :D

[Daveho1]

well for budget rotors there are 2 real options;
RDA- verry cheap...like 300 for a full sloted sett for a dc2 however they have the reputation of cracking in extream track conditions however its been shown that running a cool lap after a very heavy one helps here.
DBA-there are several options here but really your looking at 600+, they are a nicer disc then the RDA and you have the options of 2 peice rotors etc etc but the basic t3 slotted 4000 series will cost you at least double the RDA slotted. i dont think they last twice as long IMHO.

With pads its a bit of personal preffrence on how you like to drive but for me personaly i like a pad that works from 0 degree and is rated to at least 450, `theres a trade off here between hardess of the pad (hard on rotors), dust from the pads (makes your sweet rims look poo) and noise (not a cool look at all) i think some big names here are;

EBC- verry popular you would prolly be looking at there "green stuff" or "yellow stuff" range here, these are a popular pad but have the reputation of being dusty.
expect to be paying 150-220 per set depending where u go

Bendix-popular street pad, not to popular in the racing game though from what i have seen. honestly the bendix ultimates or track/street pads have a reputation for being noisy and they reatil around 160-200 per set.

Hawk-Verry popular pads in the U.S not so popular here due to few suppliers, they seem to be a good balance of the noise/dust/hardness i was lucky enough to pick em up at 100 per set but am yet to review them properly.

ferodo- all crap pads (basicly your brake pedal becomes a dust button) till you get to there track pads ds2500?? series i think they are called are verry highly regarded but quite costly im not 100 % but i think your paying over 200 per set which for me would be fine on a track car but not a streeter.

hope you found my nonsense helpful, id also recomend upgrading your lines to a quality braded set like goodridge or HEL as they are both ADR approved and they improve your pedal feel a Good deal an prevent hose buldging.

-Dave
Edit: there are heeps of others out there but these are the ones that jump to mind, QFM are ment to make good pads too ( look into em, they are a local company).

[Super-DA9]

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Daveho1 in the face again."

[curtis265]

I've heard good things about QFM pads.

Anyway, Dave's given a pretty good summary there :)

[Daveho1]

fawk rep in the face!

[u mad?]

Ds2500 dba4000 kunt go wrong abo

[Daveho1]

well yes but there is budget to consider...

[curtis265]

fawk guys your warm rep feels good spread over my face.

you're welcome.
http://www.miscupload.com/upload/60949737238054248106491.gif

[FoShizz]

you're welcome.
http://www.miscupload.com/upload/60949737238054248106491.gif

hahahha lol!

[FoShizz]

Daveho1 - Cheers mate! appreciate all the info and help!

Slotted but not drilled do they crack just as easy as drilled?

[Daveho1]

i think that yes the cross drilled are more likely to crack but for the most part i wouldnt worry about it. unless you run farkn hard as.on the street they would be fine. on the track i would opt for dimpled or just sloted and be sure to have a cool down lap to be safe

edit:ill also add that brake fluid is very over looked, use a quality fluid and change it fairly regularly- i do mine every 20k or once a year and id do it befor a track day. brake fluid is interesting because the dot ratings set up minimum specs but i havent come across listings of the boiling points of common brakefluids... im gonna be playing around with diffrent fluids when i get my new setup going. bit i think ill start with castrol response.

edit2: sorry i misread, becaus slotred and dimpled rotors arnt hut right through its not as structualy damaging as cross.drilled

[curtis265]

Daveho1 - Cheers mate! appreciate all the info and help!

Slotted but not drilled do they crack just as easy as drilled?

Nah they're fine.

The problem is when you have a weakness that changes the metallic structure all the way through.

I would assume most slutted rotors are cast in (someone correct me here)

[Baby Face]

Nah they're fine.

The problem is when you have a weakness that changes the metallic structure all the way through.

I would assume most slutted rotors are cast in (someone correct me here)


inb4 chiseled

[ecraig]

Use bendix, it is more expensive but you dont get any problems. You basically get what you pay for. Rda or Dba either one is good, i found other brands of brake pads seem to have problems.

[Stevil]

Mate I'm onto my 4th set of REMSA 650 and without a doubt they are an awesome road pad, I used em at the track aswell, I have been getting 3 trackdays and 30,000km. If I didnt use em on the track then Im sure 60,000km would be possible. The best bit is the price, I pay $89 for fronts and $79 for rear ( I pick em up from the wharehouse at Wetherill Pk) del is $10. They arent noisy at all but do produce a bit of dust. Initial bit on the street is fantatsic

QFM, personally Ive used 2 sets of the A1RM 770 on the track and whilst they pulled up great they arent a quality product. I got about 70 laps at Winton recently on the A1RM's and on the way home I almost rear ended due to no pad material left on oneside !!! one of the other pads had the braking material seperate from the backing plate. In all honesting the QC is shit and your risking ya life with em. I wont be using them anymore as Ill be upgrading to Hawks.

DBA4000 rotors for me aswell, a mate of mine tried the RDA's and really bad cracking meant they ended up in the bin. DBA4000 can be had for $330 a set, plenty of sellers on here.

[TGW92]

As Stevil mentioned above, Remsa pads are absolutely fantastic!!

Huge over in Europe, they are very cheap if you go through somewhere like brakes direct...

I have been using Remsa pads with dba 4000 series rotors (and braided lines/synthetic fluid) for around 8 months now and it is still a fantastic braking setup, I have never experienced braking fade no matter how hard I've pushed it. The Remsa pads have a very high friction coefficient at high temperatures!!

As for rotors, the 5000 series for the dc5 are more expensive, but as you probably know they are 2 piece, so they will be cheaper to replace in the long term...

I have also had friends crack rda rotors and wish they had paid the extra for dba in the first place...

[Stevil]

Yeah I think RDA's may be OK for street work, but put em in a heavish car or track em and bad cracking seems to occur too often.

[mugsee]

I've run about 230km at the track on a set of solid RDA rotors that I picked up for ~ $110 each and they haven't failed on me, yet. A good warm up and cool down lap will prevent any kind of temperature shock which is what generally promotes cracking. If you're not tracking the car, you shouldn't have any issues with heat and cracking, unless if you treat the street as a race track.

Pad wise, I'd agree with DaveHo's 2nd post about pads being a compromise in some form or another (and his other post about brake fluid). Are you after any particular kind of brake upgrade? Do you find your current brake setup deficient in some way? ie. not enough bite, fading on spirited drives, etc.

[FoShizz]

My brakes dont bite aswell still drivable though, has really bad screeching now that was never there since i owned the car til recently, rotors are rusted, and brake pads i have than 5000km left. Im definitely going to change the brake fluid and im quite keen on getting braided brake lines now after doing more research here and there they seem like a solid upgrade :)

[mugsee]

Have you inspected how much brake pad is left lately? The screeching might be because your brake pads are low and the wear indicator might be engaging.

Brake lines will promote a consistent & firmer pedal feel and good brake fluid will help prevent brake fade. I've used Motul RBF600 and ATE Blue/Amber on track and have been happy with both.

Btw, its normal for rotors to collect a thin film of rust if the car hasn't been driven around for a while. It should disappear once you start driving and engaging the brakes.

[FoShizz]

when i got my coilovers installed at BYP roughly 2.5 weeks ago i asked them to check out my brake pads and they said i have about 5000km left, i drive everyday aswell so trying to get them changed asap but i thought since im changing brake pads might aswell do the more just to minimise any potential future problems thats why im looking into rotors, brake fluid, and braided lines aswell rather than just brake pads.

is wheel alignment recommended after changing brake lines, fliud, rotors, and pads?

[Baby Face]

no your wheel allignement wont be changed by changing pads brake fluid or brake hoses.



edit:
unless you screw up big time

[EG5]

DBA 4000 series T3 slotted rotors Special!
DC5/EP3/FN2 Front Rotors
$350 per pair for a limited time , while stock last !!
( RRP $420 per pair )

[type_AHH]

DBA 4000 series T3 slotted rotors Special!
DC5/EP3/FN2 Front Rotors
$350 per pair for a limited time , while stock last !!
( RRP $420 per pair )

That's awesome!
How much would shipping be to Melbourne?

[EG5]

That's awesome!
How much would shipping be to Melbourne?

PM me with your postcode

[Daveho1]

good price! tell ya if i didnt need a full car set id be on that but at the same time 300 for slotted rda allround from Ebay posted is hard to beat

[EG5]

good price! tell ya if i didnt need a full car set id be on that but at the same time 300 for slotted rda allround from Ebay posted is hard to beat

We can always do combo deal.
PM me with what you need

[Daveho1]

pm sent.

[Type FN]

Hey all,

need some recommendations for best bang for buck slotted rotor and brake pad upgrade but still able to use OEM caliper.
I dont mind paying for new calipers aswell but itll all depend on pricing in the end.. looking to change both front and rear.
Currently driving a DC5R, not used on track, but spirited driving here and there

Cheers! :D



hey mate i have jdm dc5r brembo rear calipers (red) for sale if your keen. Pm me.