Latest Accord Euro vs 2013 Accord

[kuso]

Hi All,

I have now been full circle and have decided to come back to a Honda after a few years with the Volkswagen.

I'm currently in the market for an Accord, but wasn't too sure which one. I've tried to search online and in forum threads for a comparison between the latest Accord Euro vs the latest Accord.

My take on the new Accord is:
* Improved styling
* Massive amounts of technology if you get it with all the driver aids
* From pictures, seem to be a newer interior
* Not sure about driving experience

My take on the Accord Euro is:
* Interior definitely looks aged (esp centre console since it reminds me of my Jazz)
* Less technology and driver aids
* Better chassis
* Better exterior styling
* Better driving experience due to higher power output
* May get revised late 2014

Would love to hear people's thoughts on this as it may help me make a decision sooner.

[ChaosMaster]

Won't be a better driving experience due to higher power output, will be better driving experience in general, especially if you go for manual. I think the new Accord has more low down torque though. To be honest, if it was my money, I would put it into a VF. Much better driving experience (more torque and rwd), more comfortable when cruising and more fun when driving, better value for money, even in terms of kit, more interior space but without being much bigger externally (the new Accord is pretty big). I can't find an area where the Accord beats the VF in anything.

[kuso]

Sorry I have no idea what VF stands for.

I guess I'm not really after driving experience. I just don't want to be severely underpowered when I'm trying to carry a few passengers. I come from a Golf GTI so I understand i won't have the same driving feel and power on tap, but I guess I've made the decision to move to a more mundane car. Do you find the Accord build quality to under par or quite good? I can't stand lots of plastics like Mazda cars.

[curtis265]

lol mazda interior build is so plasticky! you'll be fine with the honda. The accord's nicer in that regard. both of them.

a VF is a commodore.

[Datuk]

Honda is a great car to drive & has good finishing touches

[kuso]

Anyone here own the new Accord (2013) yet? Either the CU2 or the newer Accord whatever that code is?

[ChaosMaster]

I would find it hard to justify the new Accord, it's more expensive, too expensive for what it is. I can't see too many people jumping on it, especially since the older Accord sold because it was cheaper than the Euro. VF is the new Commodore. It's better in all area's compared to the new Accord, at least as far as I can see. Give it a go as well, and see what you think. I've driven the new VF SV6 and Cruze SRi and both are good things, Holden have really upped their game while Honda has stayed at a standstill for the past decade. I mean I don't blame them, when GFC hit, Jap also had the tsunami so Honda didn't recieve that much funding, then Thai floods hit and their factories went down so they didn't have cars to sell, so they've pretty much had no income, perhaps even mass losses the past decade. They put all their remaining funds into the new CRV and it's meant to be their game changer, but as far as I can tell, it's still severely lacking.

Going from a GTI to the new Accord is a downgrade by all means, other than space. You'll also find that it's not as efficient on paper as it claims because the weaker engine with a heavy body means it needs to be worked hard.

[antony]

Go for the Euro,you will hate the regular Accord after a sporty GTI.

I previously had a Jetta,and upgraded to a Euro,and LOVE it,as I find it extremely comfortable ,good looking,and well built in Japan,so has none of the squeeks and rattles which VW are famous for.

Fun to drive,and excellent quality and reliability.

Regular Accord STILL looks frumpy,and is built in Thailand.

[kuso]

Thanks for your opinions guys. Definitely good to hear the thoughts of owners. I still haven't decided yet. The 2013 Accord interior is quite nice though but if it's not as well built, it will be disappointing. Decisions decisions...

[Rudy]

Id only get the new accord if you get the v6, and since there's no base model and the rrp increased, its just too expensive for what it is IMO. Prob go with the euro, but only if you can get it really cheap.

[kuso]

Is it because the euro is going to get updated soon?

[ChaosMaster]

Is it because the euro is going to get updated soon?

I think it's more because of the recent price increase due to the falling Australian dollar. Honda isn't good value anymore. It's price is now quite high, or at least higher than it was for the past few years, meaning it's back up to the "premium" brand range, however their products aren't anymore "premium" than any of it's competitors. New Euro coming out is questionable. Especially with the regular Accord, 34k driveaway is a bit steep. V6 going for 56k, and their dreaming, much like they were with the Legend. That's VF Calais V8 money.

[kuso]

I think it's more because of the recent price increase due to the falling Australian dollar. Honda isn't good value anymore. It's price is now quite high, or at least higher than it was for the past few years, meaning it's back up to the "premium" brand range, however their products aren't anymore "premium" than any of it's competitors. New Euro coming out is questionable. Especially with the regular Accord, 34k driveaway is a bit steep. V6 going for 56k, and their dreaming, much like they were with the Legend. That's VF Calais V8 money.

You're right and I agree that the value is definitely not really there. However, I'm never been a big fan of the Holden. I'm not sure if I can bring myself to buying one.

Out of the Japanese cars, Honda seems to be the only one that's decent and previously not too pricey. Subaru's Liberty is a nice car on the inside, but not sure about the looks on the outside. Doesn't leave me with many options. I was also thinking about the new Mazda 6, but they are even more expensive.

Might have to end up getting a european car or something.

[SPQR]

I like the new CRV. The AWD version has the 140kW 2.4 litre engine. Why doesn't the Accord have this engine instead of the 129kW version? Both cars are made in the same Thai factory. Surely it would be simple to fit the 140kW engine especially since the USA version has the 140kW engine. Why are Australians lumbered with the 129kW lump? Why do we get the Thai-market 129kW engine? I smell a rip-off. The new Accord is a dud.

[SPQR]

I think it's more because of the recent price increase due to the falling Australian dollar.

Seriously, the car is made in low-cost Thailand and there is no import duty on cars made in Thailand because of the free trade agreement. Honda Australia is taking customers for granted and for a ride. They'll reap poor sales as a result.

[kuso]

Yea that's the thing that gets to me. I really don't think the price point is that great. $48k for the Accord + ADAS is just ridiculous...

[SPQR]

Is that the price in Brisbane? Where did you get $48K? Is that the VTiL or the V6? The V6 is $56K on the road.

[kuso]

VTI-L + ADAS from Brisbane.

[ChaosMaster]

You're right and I agree that the value is definitely not really there. However, I'm never been a big fan of the Holden. I'm not sure if I can bring myself to buying one.

Out of the Japanese cars, Honda seems to be the only one that's decent and previously not too pricey. Subaru's Liberty is a nice car on the inside, but not sure about the looks on the outside. Doesn't leave me with many options. I was also thinking about the new Mazda 6, but they are even more expensive.

Might have to end up getting a european car or something.

I get what you're coming from, but Holden has improved a lot. I mean 10 years ago, I wouldn't have even considered a Holden (and I still won't consider a Ford). Back then, they had way too many issues. VE has been a game changer though, in terms of reliability for Holden. Wouldn't touch the Barina or Captiva or anything that's a rebadged daewoo, though. But cars like the VF Commodore and even the SII Cruze have had much Aussie R&D put into them, so much so that you can't really compare them to the Korean crap.

As for Japanese, well, the only cars I would be looking at today outside of Holden really would be a Toyota. They are much cheaper than the others, and have a much higher reliability rate as well. Servicing cost is a lot less as well. You could look European but you're getting a lot less for the money, and their quality is still questionable (look at VW). I think the problem with the Europeans is that they only started looking at improving reliability about a decade ago (Merc actually admitted they had Quality issues early 2000 and said they would improve their QC, French are still rubbish). If you go by what the Journos say, they can only talk about the car and how it feels during the short period they've owned them. Looking at VW and the Golf, they are build solid, and thus Journos talk about how they feel like they gonna last, but there's still issues. The reason I trust Holden and Toyota more is that since they are manufactured in Australia, and want to keep on doing so, they do recalls to rectify the issues that they come across, where as VW and even Ford, tend to ignore it to save money.

[MRCT EURO]

" Going from a GTI to the new Accord is a downgrade by all means, other than space. You'll also find that it's not as efficient on paper as it claims because the weaker engine with a heavy body means it needs to be worked hard. "


worked hard = burns more fuel = more money wasted. Euros a heavy car, you dont get that bang bang instant acceleration response like the GTIs. The Euros optimum level to run is only when its rolling.

[MRCT EURO]

Question guys..

How much are the black 2009 Euro Luxury model pricing now with 85 xxxklms?? Pick of the brain anyone?