Forced Induction D16Y4

[raidbaws]

Yo yo yo!

Just like the title says.. I do not want or need a step by step 1080p photographical demonstration on bolt ons. LOL.

I am just after people that have completed swap and just to express some ideas.

I have :honda: D16Y4 engine. Looking to go boosting. 133,000 km on engine and chassis. Engine is clean as fcuk, looking like it just rolled out of the factory as in head has been taken off and meticulously looked for signs of wear. Yes I know SOHC and no VTEC *waa waa* I don't really mind.

Let's go.. discussion thread or PM me.

[DakDak]

I'd compression test your motor just to be sure of a solid foundation.

Find a T28BB custom manifold, front mount, injectors, ecu and tune and your good to go.

[raidbaws]

Haha I wanted to express some ideas to you guys ... but in any case, was looking at mainly what turbos others have decided to run and why and which ECU?

Compression test has been completed - looking like all around 180 all across the board with all cylinders very close to 180 ( 180,182,182,182 ) . Haven't played with a Honda before, do those figures sound like a good time? :O

[raidbaws]

A fair few SR's run the T28BB manifold ( just a quick google search ) and with a quick peek they suit a early / mid range response turbo which sounds just about right for me.

[honda_zivic]

A fair few SR's run the T28BB manifold ( just a quick google search ) and with a quick peek they suit a early / mid range response turbo which sounds just about right for me.
go for t25 turbo, i have a t28 an full boost comes on at 4,500 rpm.

[raidbaws]

T28 hmm.. that sounds like some good response, what psi are you running and are you plumbing back or have BOV?

[honda_zivic]

was running 10 psi b4 but atm im running 8 psi, i have a turbosmart megasonic bov and also running hondata s300 (because plug n play).

u will need a clutch and exhaust when u go boost.

how much power u aiming for anyways?

[DakDak]

With a t28bb efficiency maxes out at 1 bar.

I wouldnt go any smaller. Each to their own. T28BB has heaps of headroom for more power with a D16. Before engine internals, gearbox strengths, street friendly clutches are thrown into the equation. Plus T25's are bush bearing if you try to salvage a 180 one? Correct me if Im wrong.

All Hondas run off a MAP sensor right? I'd go vent. Just because I can.

Cant do that on my S15 unfortunately. Runs like shit.

[eren]

it's really good to see people interested in their Single Cams :) . if you go through to do it , make a diy thread pls haha

[stndrd]

You can run a GT28 but you need to look at the rear housing size. A .63 rear housing will give you good spool and the gt28 will have more than enough poke to go all the way to 7000rpm (or just under).

In regards to manifolds, i would run a tubular manifold with tuned length runners. T25/gt28's are all internally gated so you dont need to worry about wastegate attatchments.

ECU, I would run a Haltech or Hondata, then look at upgrading injectors to 440cc at a minimum, a Walbro 255 combined with a higher flow fuel rail and fuel pressure reg. A heavy duty clutch and 2.5-3in exhaust will see you out.

If you need engine internals etc, I am a Bisimoto Engineering dealer and can supply pistons/rods/cam etc to help you when the next level comes.

Lastly, remember that a stock D series is only good for about 200whp on stock rods. Any more and you will throw a rod out the block so just be mindful.

If you need anymore help feel free to call me

[raidbaws]

Too many responses making me look like a fool reading stuff I already know but cheers :)

Thanks for the time you guys put into posting. I don't want to set a 'whp' figure yet, just deciding on how to approach this BUT if I had to set it around 150fwkw would be tops.
Was looking more at the a slighter bigger than T25 so many that T28BB is what I should go for as turbo choice, 1 bar is plenty.

Turbo is out of way.. I know which ex manifold I'm after aswell..

One more question about tuning it - My car has immobolizer on starter motor, if I run a Haltech or Hondata ( not sure which one at the moment ), what am I going to have to look for in terms of
that issue there.. or am I just over thinking?

I have read that the Hondata S300's aren't so plug and play for D16Y4 motors.. can you shed any more light Honda_Zivic?

Regards

[honda_zivic]

s300 is plug n play for obd1. for ur case u need to convert to obd1 setup to make it work.but bit more work involved since d16y4 is an aussie version and is abit diff to other obd2 engines.

u cant use hondata obd2 - obd1 conversion harness bcoz d16y4 is different to others.

this link should help u.
http://nzhondas.com/forced-induction/146669-ecu-query-d16y4-turbo-setup-lxi-nzdm-2.html

[ALLMTR996]

All a SOHC Vtec D series needs is a good T28 turbo cheap ramhorn style manifold 2.5" exhaust,I use 550cc injectors and not some cheap arse second EVO 440cc things that you need to run a resistor pack on.The ECU convert the car to OBD1 unit then you have the choice of Hondata/Neptune/Crome the factory map sensor is good to 11psi and the engine will not take anymore than that it will break rods.I road tuned one yesterday at 7psi it rips for what it is only thing in the one I tuned we ran 1000cc injectors just because we can,it makes full boost under 3500rpm and is dream to drive on the freeway and in traffic and gets great mileage because these are the current generation EV14 Bosch style injector.If your tuner knows what they are doing it will boost early as long as it has a real turbo and not a EGAY copied junk pile.

if you only want to run small injectors get some OEM Honda RDX 440cc units from the states they are a very good injector and work well with higher fuel pressure of a boosted engine.

[mugen_ctr]

all i know is that i built my own kit, an pieced it my self an it goes a little something like this... zzzutututututt... ahahahaa...

[ALLMTR996]

Best advice I can give is spend good money on fuel system/Injectors and ECU get it tuned spot-on with the boost around 9psi or below and the car will be alot of fun.One thing to keep in mind is exhaust manifold design does play a very big part in spool time and for some reason everyone says the exhaust housing is to big which is not true.

[raidbaws]

The only problem I am seeing is the ECU as it has to be aftermarket but heard nothing but headaches into conversion to OBD1/2.

[ALLMTR996]

Is your car an CXI ?

[stndrd]

How is it a headache? $100 gets you a conversion loom

[ALLMTR996]

How is it a headache? $100 gets you a conversion loom

Really how many CXI's have you converted to OBD1 with just a conversion harness ?
A CXI is a completely different OBD2 wiring setup it uses a P2K ECU with only 2 plugs you cant just get a conversion harness it has grouped injectors and a 3 or 4 wire IACV OBD1 will not run it.

Here you go because you seem to think you have alot of knowledge about this
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=d16y4+ecu+site:www.ozhonda.com&biw=1280&bih=640

[raidbaws]

Yes it is a CXI.

I haven't converted any but all I have heard are headaches and then a final light on the horizon. I don't mind in a way if I had cash to roll out but if I had cash then I wouldn't have time. Double edged sword and was just asking how others got around this.

[Daveho1]

dude its been like a week, how havent you finished this yet....

[ALLMTR996]

dude its been like a week, how havent you finished this yet....
Thats funny

[raidbaws]

Daveho. Who are you asking?

If it is me then you will notice that I have a for sale thread open due to family issues. I am in no rush to sell that is why I posted again in this thread. I am genuinely interested and just trying to keep my head around everything that is happening.

Thanks ALLMTR, sorry I don't know your real name. Have you moved onto driving a Porsche now?

[ALLMTR996]

No Porsche for me I only drive The Power Of Dreams

if you read thru the google links I posted you will find all the info you need when your ready to do your car good luck with your setup when you get the funds and time to do it.

[raidbaws]

Thanks man. Will check it out when I get home.

:D

[grifty]

JRSC it!

Im running a JRSC on my SOHC ZC, 6.5 psi no tune with stock injectors. This thing is torquey and I managed a 15.1 :)

[carayan]

JRSC it!

Im running a JRSC on my SOHC ZC, 6.5 psi no tune with stock injectors. This thing is torquey and I managed a 15.1 :)

You finished?!??!?!

[u mad?]

JRSC it!

Im running a JRSC on my SOHC ZC, 6.5 psi no tune with stock injectors. This thing is torquey and I managed a 15.1 :)
bout time phaggot

how much power u expecting after injectors and tune

[PHO]

He hasn't done it yet, thats his bog stock motor with his spare jrsc

not his actual engine/intercooled jrsc

guess ram got bored. lmzoo

[mugen_ctr]

He hasn't done it yet, thats his bog stock motor with his spare jrsc

not his actual engine/intercooled jrsc

guess ram got bored. lmzoo

But S/C doesnt dose, so its not as good u nomsaying.....

[Daveho1]

choo choo choo...instant bitches nomsayn

[grifty]

He hasn't done it yet, thats his bog stock motor with his spare jrsc

not his actual engine/intercooled jrsc

guess ram got bored. lmzoo

Yep thats correct, I got bored one saturday lol

Intercooled JRSC and built motor are still sitting on the stand....


But S/C doesnt dose, so its not as good u nomsaying.....

But S/C has whine which 99% of people wont know what it is lol!

[Super-DA9]

But S/C doesnt dose, so its not as good u nomsaying.....

http://img23.exs.cx/img23/7708/VL.jpg

[mugen_ctr]

Yep thats correct, I got bored one saturday lol

Intercooled JRSC and built motor are still sitting on the stand....



But S/C has whine which 99% of people wont know what it is lol!

HAHAHAH!!! JRSC was my 2nd option if i didnt find all the parts for a turbo setup, keen to see how it goes man, planning on running water/meth setup?

[grifty]

HAHAHAH!!! JRSC was my 2nd option if i didnt find all the parts for a turbo setup, keen to see how it goes man, planning on running water/meth setup?

Don't think I'll need water/meth injection since its intercooled. Yet to try it out though....

[raidbaws]

You can just add an injector into the intake coming from a surge table with water and time it to ignition pulse and back that up with a relay and switch combo.

It isn't too hard but you will just need to fab it up or could try an AEM kit if possible.

What engine are you pro charging?

[grifty]

You can just add an injector into the intake coming from a surge table with water and time it to ignition pulse and back that up with a relay and switch combo.

It isn't too hard but you will just need to fab it up or could try an AEM kit if possible.

What engine are you pro charging?

Dont think I'll need the AEM kit as the water to air intercooler should keep the temps down

its a Y4 block with a JDM D15B vtec head, pretty much a mini me. ARP head studs and a Y8 head gasket to pickup a bit more compression.

[raidbaws]

Haha the 'mericans have done a fair few mini me conversions but haven't seen many in Aus. Good stuff grofty! :)

You are supercharging but want a bit more compression? I would suggest staying with OEM as that block has good compression ratio for forced induction, thats why I first brought this thread to life. What made you go with that choice?

Yeah that is true, if you have water to air then you should be fine but could I ask you why you didn't go with air to air.. is this car a daily aswell? Sorry, not following many build threads.

[grifty]

Haha the 'mericans have done a fair few mini me conversions but haven't seen many in Aus. Good stuff grofty! :)

You are supercharging but want a bit more compression? I would suggest staying with OEM as that block has good compression ratio for forced induction, thats why I first brought this thread to life. What made you go with that choice?

Yeah that is true, if you have water to air then you should be fine but could I ask you why you didn't go with air to air.. is this car a daily aswell? Sorry, not following many build threads.

Yeah its a OEM block, nothing aftermarket. I originally bought a JDM D15B but wanted abit more displacement for torque, so I got myself a D16Y4 block.

Superchargers love more compression, I would be loosing power by lowering compression.

Not sure if it will be a daily. The water to air setup is custom made, air to air is not possible as the supercharger mounts to the bottom of the intake manifold.

http://i40.tinypic.com/rlxpjn.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/ixyxav.jpg

[Daveho1]

haha thats fukn cool

[ALLMTR996]

Very very nice setup Grifty are those RDX injectors in the setup

[grifty]

Very very nice setup Grifty are those RDX injectors in the setup

yep, custom made fuel rail with RDX injectors :)

[ALLMTR996]

yep, custom made fuel rail with RDX injectors :)
What tuning platform do you have for your car?

[grifty]

what tuning platform do you have for your car?

s300 :)

[ALLMTR996]

s300 :)
You are using some very good components in your setup very good to see cheaping out is not the way to go,buy it right buy it once.

[dougie_504]

Badass looking setup. I like.