Dc5 tune Problem

[firefistkyo]

Got my Dc5r tune to 140kwfw but does that sound right I got all the bolt on and Stage 1

Drag Cartel Cam and Kpro Should I have more power...??

Please help...?

[u mad?]

cairns? u get tunned at svs?

what boltons do you have

[firefistkyo]

svs tuning it

[firefistkyo]

U should know me BlackDc5r Cairns

[u mad?]

what are your boltons

[u mad?]

U should know me BlackDc5r Cairns

u hmong fella?

wait abeng? loll

[firefistkyo]

Skunk 2 Exhaust
Plm headers with high flow cat
70mm Tb skunk2 im
Stage 1 Drag Cartel cam
Kpro tune

[firefistkyo]

good guess I got my car tune last with and we out tonight and lost to everyone even a stock ep3r with just header and a crx

[Vvvtec]

Should be pushing 150ish with that setup

whats your cam angle map look like?

[firefistkyo]

unsure what u mean by that

[Vvvtec]

unsure what u mean by that

what does the map for your cam angles look like, both primary and vtec lobes

[zropts]

That power you getting don't seem right, I'm running bolt on and kpro doing 150kw atw from my last tune. Car needs a retune though

[Chr1s]

Take it back to your tuner and explain to him the situation, if he doesn't want to help, can't fix it, or seems to not know what his talking about, go elsewhere.

This doesn't sound like a hard engine to tune, it should be making more than that but dyno figures can always be deceiving, the best indicator is the drag strip...

[zropts]

Tuning is easy but tuning a kpro is the main point , it will be a waste if you can't find the right guy to do the job

[Chr1s]

Kpro is easy too though.. surely the tuner noticed the variable cam maps?

[zropts]

Not up in cairns, those tuners don't deal with Hondas much so they won't know much about hondata

[firefistkyo]

guess i have to go down south car feel so slow cant even keep up with stock cars lol

[Vvvtec]

Lol poor guy

[zropts]

That's why not much people tune there car up there, just like Eddie getting his car done down brissy

[firefistkyo]

Spend $990 on a Shit Tune lol omg

[u mad?]

guess i have to go down south car feel so slow cant even keep up with stock cars lol

fark man, just go sydney and be done with it.

u raced leexai?

[firefistkyo]

yeah Race him like 1 month ago when my car was untune and he was run stock ecu
beat me by a nose

[u mad?]

why he got stock ecu?

both ur cars not running right. just go see adrian in sydney man, worth the drive, just a shame u had to waste 1000 bucks on a shit tune

[u mad?]

btw why only stage one dc cams, they just the drop in ones yeah?
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shoulda gone with the stage 2s and done all the valve springs ect

[firefistkyo]

Leexai said hes car run better with stock ecu anyways went with Stage one becuase never work on a k20 before So just want it to be abit easier
but now after cam install it was Easy Job wish I went for stage 2 now....
oh well Ran out of money to work on the dc5

well I found out y my car so slow today anyways....

[Adrian @ SAS]

Blocked cat? Or slipping clutch?

[firefistkyo]

Just got a New Cat like 2 week ago clutch is fine

[Adrian @ SAS]

Well, c'mon what is it... ? (we're all waiting :p )

[firefistkyo]

Injector not send enough fuel from the look of it

[u mad?]

Injector not send enough fuel from the look of it

whats the duty cycle ?

[firefistkyo]

not to sure but it a fuel problem for sure
Need to spend More $$$$ on the Car LOL

[Adrian @ SAS]

Injector not send enough fuel from the look of it
From data log, reading the plugs or dyno assess (check mixtures) ?

[u mad?]

not to sure but it a fuel problem for sure
Need to spend More $$$$ on the Car LOL
injectors arent that expensive

they nearly maxed out with boltons, shoulda changed them before you cammed it

[firefistkyo]

lol k Still new to kpro

[Adrian @ SAS]

Could be a sensor issue or set-up issue also...
Are you able to download your tune file & post it somewhere so I can look?

[firefistkyo]

well When i brought the car they said it got injector but No

[firefistkyo]

yeah I Got the Calibration of the tune map

[Vvvtec]

Please post it up so we can suss out your map.

More specifically, so Adrian can check it out :D

[firefistkyo]

K how u upload be trying not working

[firefistkyo]

K GOT IT download from here http://uploadingit.com/file/view/ix5qc9esiqlobjro/K20a2%20Audm%20cam%20tune.kal

[Adrian @ SAS]

Gosh... where to start...

Overrun cut is set incorrectly
Vtec unlikely to work correctly – atmospheric pressure is 100 kpa, your overrun cut activates under 200kpa ? Unsure of actual effect but it is wrong

Closed loop is turned off ? Why?

Injector size is listed as 280, your injectors are 310 & there is a 5% trim applied to the fuel. – Odd…

Gear ratios are wrong & gear comps & tip-in all zero ? Why ?

IACV is disabled? Why ?

Ignition water temp comp tables are zeroed? Why ?

Same with air temp comp tables ? Why ?

Knock sensor turned off ? Why ?

Incorrect base calibration used (PRA Euro CTR) this is why your tuner couldn’t get the O2 sensor to work & turned it off

No launch control

8100rpm rev limit ?

Ignition timing tables are odd to say the least
Fuel looks normal ish
Cam angle tables are also odd

So, I'd say go back & talk to your tuner about this & see what he can do.

[firefistkyo]

wow lol I wont know wat to say to the tuner that alot of problem

[Adrian @ SAS]

Just say you're not happy like you did in your 1st post & you got a 2nd opinion & you have the following concerns... (print the above post)

Be nice about it, don't lose your shit & you'll probably get a really good result :)
hope that helps

[firefistkyo]

ok then Thanks For your help

[ALLMTR996]

What it shows me is someone with no idea how to tune a Kpro but had no problem taking his money for a half arse attempt at making themselfs look good.

[u mad?]

can u guys have a look at mine? byp tunned it, i know its terrible

[u mad?]

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=7ab47aef277735cd87d2a724e7f41d00&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.k20a.org%2Fforum%2Fshowthread .php%3Fp%3D1818687%26posted%3D1%23post1818687&v=1&libId=a2172c18-96d3-4bc4-8cf6-23f87e670ae6&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.k20a.org%2Fforum%2Fsearch.php %3Fsearchid%3D4824481&title=k20a%20ping%2Fdet%20under%20low%20rpm%20load %20-%20K20A.org%20.%3A.%20The%20K%20Series%20Source%20 .%20Honda%20%2F%20Acura%20K20a%20k24a%20Engine%20F orum&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.viglink.com%2Fapi%2Fclick%3Ff or...13732053017338&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13791282875468&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.filedropper.com%2Fnewdatalogh ghghghggh
thats my data log^


thtas my cal v

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=7ab47aef277735cd87d2a724e7f41d00&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.k20a.org%2Fforum%2Fshowthread .php%3Ft%3D114733%26page%3D2&v=1&libId=71db0260-7548-4e83-922a-af47b249ac0a&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.filedropper.com%2Fkuntkunt&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.k20a.org%2Fforum%2Fshowthread .php%3Ft%3D114733&title=k20a%20ping%2Fdet%20under%20low%20rpm%20load %20-%20Page%202%20-%20K20A.org%20.%3A.%20The%20K%20Series%20Source%20 .%20Honda%20%2F%20Acura%20K20a%20k24a%20Engine%20F orum&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.filedropper.com%2Fkuntkunt&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13791283208508

[stndrd]

Can this post get a sticky?

Lots of good info

[Chr1s]

I don't think this needs to be stickied, it's abit of common sense really!

Who is around in QLD for the QLD guys? Surely there is someone up Cairns way!

[stndrd]

I understand it is common sense to people like us, but to the end user who doesnt know alot, it can make all the difference

[Chr1s]

Fair enough, but how hard is it to call your tuner? He/she can advise via email or the phone easily. I struggle to understand why the end user will want to change compensations that the tuner didn't pickup on, if they want to adjust fuel overrun cutoff's, that's not too bad, but the tuner should still be advised for their advice, it's easy to input mental values in these parameters tabs which may actually have a detrimental effect - then the "generic" sticky that was followed on OzHonda is to blame..

Anyway, there is plenty of "how to's" out there but at the end of the day, a good tune means the end user won't need to worry about this. For anyone in doubt - read your help file, it spoon feeds you! Literally :)

[firefistkyo]

hi guys called the shop and they say it could be the car
they say it could be the parts i have but i only change
my cat,headers and cam how could that make my car slow....

[Vvvtec]

hi guys called the shop and they say it could be the car
they say it could be the parts i have but i only change
my cat,headers and cam how could that make my car slow....

If that's their response, don't waste your time with them anymore. Hopeless

[u mad?]

hi guys called the shop and they say it could be the car
they say it could be the parts i have but i only change
my cat,headers and cam how could that make my car slow....
ask for your money back. thats pathetic.

[firefistkyo]

true... Saving money for sydney coming down in december anyone Know any tuner shop or tuner

[Vvvtec]

true... Saving money for sydney coming down in december anyone Know any tuner shop or tuner

carefully read the replies of the people who have given you advice in this thread haha, see if you can pick out who the tuner is :p

[stndrd]

His name starts with A and ends with N

[firefistkyo]

lol thanks guys

[zropts]

Adrain?

[zropts]

hi guys called the shop and they say it could be the car
they say it could be the parts i have but i only change
my cat,headers and cam how could that make my car slow....

Get your cams timing check?

[Adrian @ SAS]

If cam timing was an issue, he would have a CEL (P0341 error camshaft range/performance)
This error has not been disabled - we know this through download link.

It is possible the cat has become blocked, but unlikely
The other parts are known to work...
That leaves little to the imagination as to what the issue is...

[Type FN]

get money back take it to adrian and you will be happy.

[firefistkyo]

Thats The plan.....

[soopaman]

abeng its pheng i sent taos map to andrew already try it out, but might have to put stock cams back in run better

[chongy]

Firefistkyo,
Who installed the drag cartel cams?
Did they adjust the valves when the cams were installed?

[firefistkyo]

All good now got the car retune For free...
it had a bad fuel pump make it lose power
top end.. Car made 148kw atw....
bit better then before

[u mad?]

did adrian help u out or are you using that tune from that hmong fellas dc5r from down south?

Still running the dc or you go back to oem?

You should still have it properly tuned down south.

[firefistkyo]

Svs retune it lol it was free so... yeah run ok

[u mad?]

Svs retune it lol it was free so... yeah run ok

lol nice, what did you say for them to do that?

soo... raced anyone yet? lol

[firefistkyo]

Well they found this post on ozhonda here I it went from...
they said they wanted me to be happy with there work so yeah..
it all cool...Still going to Syd to get Adrian to look at it
I haven't race anyone yet... still it not that fast...

[u mad?]

Well they found this post on ozhonda here I it went from...
they said they wanted me to be happy with there work so yeah..
it all cool...Still going to Syd to get Adrian to look at it
I haven't race anyone yet... still it not that fast...
ah thats good of them, how it should be.

go race leexai

[Vvvtec]

nice outcome

still want more ponies ay

http://oilersnation.com/uploads/Image/please-sir.jpg

[firefistkyo]

yeah maybe this week sometime...

[firefistkyo]

yeah For Sure Want more....

[u mad?]

yeah For Sure Want more....

you will always want more, you will never be satisfied lol

[soopaman]

Lol lets go out again..
jarod you wana try that map? He said it made 152kw, i tried your map but it ping and choked too much, but ran ok on that dc5r map but now my tps fuked up

[u mad?]

Lol lets go out again..
jarod you wana try that map? He said it made 152kw, i tried your map but it ping and choked too much, but ran ok on that dc5r map but now my tps fuked up

that byp map was a piece of shit ay man.

Nah it's all good, i got adrian to e-tune it for the time being, runs heaps better now. no ping and heaps more midrange

What tps you use? ktuned are doing a billet one that comes with a 1 year warranty. plus it looks nice as lol

http://www.k-tuned.com/release/tps/ann-ktd-tps-v2_1.jpg

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=87491

[soopaman]

Yea haha i duno how you ran like that..
i have a hybrid racing tps, but yea i ordered a ktuned one already.
Apparently the tps fuking up is a common problem but ive read good reviews on the ktuned one.
whats e-tune? Lol

[u mad?]

Yeah had to be light on throttle low revs or it'd just knock, had to baby the car until 4.5k rpm lol
e-tune, just datalog then email datalog then he adjust then resend me new calibration then i upload ect ect, keep doing this until we get it right lol.

[soopaman]

Oh tru is it a long process or is it pretty quick? How much does he charge?

[stndrd]

e-tuning can take weeks or months (depending on how bad the tune is to begin with). Best bet would be to PM Adrian@SAS to find out how much he charges

[mocchi]

Oh tru is it a long process or is it pretty quick? How much does he charge?

depends how often you supply him the datalogs
usually he replies pretty quick, so you can get it done in few days or 1-2weeks

need to do it consistently as possible (same stretch of roads, temperature, weather conditions etc)

in my experience, it took abt 10 revisions to get a decent etune

[firefistkyo]

Hey Pheng Take your car for A tune well worth the drive

[u mad?]

yeah i pm'd him, but as per mocchis post, pretty much sums it up. im at my 9th one.

[Stevil]

Hey U mad why dont you throw up your Dyno grapgh of byp's tune ? or the map ? would love to see it !!

[stndrd]

A single dyno graph will not show imperfections in the tune at partial throttle or lower RPM

[u mad?]

Hey U mad why dont you throw up your Dyno grapgh of byp's tune ? or the map ? would love to see it !!

They never dynod it. they road tuned it.

I can only email the map, if you really are keen to see it then pm me your email address lol