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EJ1
06-10-2013, 02:35 PM
Dear Ozhonda community,

After some time now of contemplating to suggest an idea to the community here I've decided to go ahead with it.

I'm currently registered on the JZX100.com forums where they have a live shoutbox/chatbox up the top section of the forums. It's essentially a huge group chat for all members on the forums to participate in have a laugh, discuss anything Honda related or discuss anything offtopic. Any new threads which are created are displayed as a shout/comment on the shoutbox. I think this would be a great opportunity for the members to embrace something another forum has led by example.

Linked now is a picture of the shoutbox for any moderators/administrators/users to view if they wish.

http://postimg.org/image/4i0p88opt/

EKVTIR-T
06-10-2013, 02:35 PM
meh

spam thread good enough

EJ1
06-10-2013, 02:37 PM
Shoutbox would be a good idea to communicate with members quickly if you ask me... I can think of a million reasons why it's a good idea to integrate this shoutbox into ozhonda as well.

carayan
06-10-2013, 06:16 PM
i dont think this forum needs a 2nd, live spam thread

PHO
06-10-2013, 06:21 PM
We already have a spam thread for this kinda shit :/

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?177267-SPAM-Thread

EJ1
06-10-2013, 06:31 PM
Not a spam thread a live chatbox up the top?

Ozhonda has nothing like this.. It would be an awesome idea. Really works well on the jzx forums...

EJ1
06-10-2013, 06:34 PM
Plus it's not entirely for spam it's a really useful feature, Members can develop friendly relationships amongst one another plus a thousand more reasons.

You guys get the idea :)

PHO
06-10-2013, 06:34 PM
It would move way too fast if it was on ozhonda...

How many people are usually on at one time? (jzx100)

EJ1
06-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Hundreds sometimes... You'll be surprised with how slowly it moves. Even on Ozhonda the chatbox would move slowly I believe.

They kind of have an auto update thing on the chatbox so that notifications aren't flowing in every second. Think it updates with new ones every 5-10 seconds.

I really think this would be a good opportunity to trial this system out it works very well!

bennjamin
06-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Shoutbox would be a good idea to communicate with members quickly if you ask me... I can think of a million reasons why it's a good idea to integrate this shoutbox into ozhonda as well.


Tell us.

I think its not needed - server load , and also SPAM will overcome the chatbox and it will be very hard to keep track of your conversations (moving very fast)

EKVTIR-T
06-10-2013, 06:45 PM
it would need to be monitored by MODS so people dont advertise their mates tuning services etc.

not to mention all the personal attacks on another users ..

PHO
06-10-2013, 06:45 PM
Yeah, dont think you get the idea of how fast the spam group can be...

EJ1
06-10-2013, 06:50 PM
Haha trust me I know how fast they can move... At least give it a day or two's trial I say.

You need some sort of a system which moderators can ban people for "x" amount of days from the shoutbox if they're spamming. It's in the moderators discretion to choose how long. Until then the spammer can only contact the moderator and the decision will lie in the moderators hands.

There is perfectly rational ways around the spammers... You guys have to trust me when I say the shoutbox works well...

Chernoby1
06-10-2013, 06:52 PM
Ozhonda sspamoly is top notch. I rekom thryd be able to pull out a msg every 20s brtween like 11am and 11pm.

Impossible to keep conversation going properly, you get spammed under fo sho

EKVTIR-T
06-10-2013, 06:53 PM
we know what shoutbox is,but we're saying we don't need it...

EJ1
06-10-2013, 06:54 PM
Well let me start with the reasoning..

Gives members a chance to communicate and get to know eachother better, off topic discussion, on topic discussion, new threads created appear in the chatbox, a bit of friendly humour amongst members, quick discussion without waiting for members to read and reply to threads.. There's so many more reasons I don't think it's necessary to state them all.

As the saying goes don't knock it until you've tried it. Obviously within sensible reasoning though..

EJ1
06-10-2013, 06:56 PM
I'm sure plenty of members will think it's a good contribution guess I'll just have to wait until more of the members agree with me.

Getting a bit off topic now I think we should invest in a forum sponsor here. On the jzx forums we have North Shore Toyota as our forum sponsor and we get near wholesale pricing on all parts. Surely the administrators and moderators could sort something out for this?

Chernoby1
06-10-2013, 06:56 PM
It might work for a smaller forum very well. For something as big as OH, not gonna work too well. Theres simply too much shit going on in here to make any sort of 'ticker' work

NeedVtec
06-10-2013, 06:57 PM
Already hard enough to keep up with spam thread with 30 sec rule, imagine 5 sec rule. Fuuuarrrrkkkkk

curtis265
06-10-2013, 06:58 PM
the benefits you are describing are quite literally what we have in the spam thread

come join us

we welcome you abourd

EKVTIR-T
06-10-2013, 07:00 PM
the benefits you are describing are quite literally what we have in the spam thread

come join us

we welcome you abourdapparently theyre a friendly bunch

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/poignant_lessons/gangsta-sesame-street.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/poignant_lessons/media/gangsta-sesame-street.jpg.html)

PHO
06-10-2013, 07:00 PM
Already hard enough to keep up with spam thread with 30 sec rule, imagine 5 sec rule. Fuuuarrrrkkkkk

lmzooo,

hay mulk

EJ1
06-10-2013, 07:03 PM
Hahaha you guys have a good sense of humour at least...

What about the idea suggested in regards to a forum sponsor?

PHO
06-10-2013, 07:04 PM
i recon ozhonda surviving fine with just ads.

curtis265
06-10-2013, 07:06 PM
There's gotta be some sort of benefit to both parties to get that going

how do you suppose a dealership get any benefit from 1) paying OH to advertise their name and 2) giving all the kids cheap parts?, especially when their primary driver is to sell new cars?

EJ1
06-10-2013, 07:08 PM
Forum sponsor meaning A Honda dealership becoming our sponsor to sell parts to members at wholesale price. Over on the x100 forums they have a lifetime membership thing where you can get discounted parts from NST (north shore toyota). Parts are sold at nearly wholesale price...

PHO
06-10-2013, 07:09 PM
Ohh, lmaooooo

honda aus is stupid, even at whole sale, usa via autofair would be cheaper. also, honda aus sucks. only use honda aus for fluids

EJ1
06-10-2013, 07:11 PM
Well increased sales essentially is expending their revenue. They would make a substantial amount of profit from selling discounted parts to lifetime members as opposed to selling retail parts once in a blue moon. The more members find out about the discounted parts for lifetime members will attract new buyers to Honda which they never have had before and increase Ozhonda's funding which can be put towards developing the site further and valuable other resources here.

u mad?
06-10-2013, 07:30 PM
apparently theyre a friendly bunch

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/poignant_lessons/gangsta-sesame-street.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/poignant_lessons/media/gangsta-sesame-street.jpg.html)
looooooolllllllllllllll


no needed in my onion

but if its not heaps of trouble its worth a go

EJ1
06-10-2013, 07:40 PM
I agree, Change is good and we need some kind of backup for the spammers to be temporarily if not indefinitely banned until further notice if it were to happen.

Oh and only registered members can see or use the chatbox. Should probably make a rule that any member under 100 posts cannot use it.

bennjamin
08-10-2013, 02:06 PM
Forum sponsor meaning A Honda dealership becoming our sponsor to sell parts to members at wholesale price. Over on the x100 forums they have a lifetime membership thing where you can get discounted parts from NST (north shore toyota). Parts are sold at nearly wholesale price...

since you are pushing this - are you the said sponsor ?


If the spammers dont want a shout-out-box......then we wont do it. They ARE the community after all.

RenzokukenJ
08-10-2013, 02:13 PM
since you are pushing this - are you the said sponsor ?


If the spammers dont want a shout-out-box......then we wont do it. They ARE the community after all.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar24136_24.gif

PHO
08-10-2013, 02:16 PM
since you are pushing this - are you the said sponsor ?


If the spammers dont want a shout-out-box......then we wont do it. They ARE the community after all.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar37219_11.gif

EKVTIR-T
08-10-2013, 05:14 PM
since you are pushing this - are you the said sponsor ?


If the spammers dont want a shout-out-box......then we wont do it. They ARE the community after all.http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar8192_79.gif

EJ1
08-10-2013, 05:33 PM
Good old chapelles show haha.

Well clearly I'm not the proprietor of a Honda Dealership so therefore I cannot sponsor the forum. Maybe you should take this information on board and think about it deeply because I'm sure members on ozhonda would appreciate discounted OEM parts for their cars. It seems to work on the jzx forums so why not here?

What about the members who aren't spammers? The spammers not might want a shoutbox but those who don't spam may actually want one. It's actually a reasonable contribution to the site.

I don't think I've ever heard something positive come out of your mouth Benjamin everything on my posts and pretty much most of the other ones is just negativity. Guessing you were one of those adolescents who was given a hard time at college therefore you're taking your years of being bullied out on the forums here. Just because you're a moderator doesn't mean you have a right to treat other members the way you want. Try treating members here with dignity and you might actually get some respect back.

I myself am a moderator on a reputable website which I shall not name at this stage, Members appreciate my contribution and moderating because I treat them with respect, show enthusiasm and positivity.

As the saying goes respect is a two way street. Just something to think about buddy...

RenzokukenJ
08-10-2013, 06:11 PM
Good old chapelles show haha.

Well clearly I'm not the proprietor of a Honda Dealership so therefore I cannot sponsor the forum. Maybe you should take this information on board and think about it deeply because I'm sure members on ozhonda would appreciate discounted OEM parts for their cars. It seems to work on the jzx forums so why not here?

What about the members who aren't spammers? The spammers not might want a shoutbox but those who don't spam may actually want one. It's actually a reasonable contribution to the site.

I don't think I've ever heard something positive come out of your mouth Benjamin everything on my posts and pretty much most of the other ones is just negativity. Guessing you were one of those adolescents who was given a hard time at college therefore you're taking your years of being bullied out on the forums here. Just because you're a moderator doesn't mean you have a right to treat other members the way you want. Try treating members here with dignity and you might actually get some respect back.

I myself am a moderator on a reputable website which I shall not name at this stage, Members appreciate my contribution and moderating because I treat them with respect, show enthusiasm and positivity.

As the saying goes respect is a two way street. Just something to think about buddy...

I think what Benny is trying to say here is that the spammers are on the forum pretty much 24/7, contribute quite a bit while also building rapport with everyone that is kind enough to listen.

LOL @ not naming forum, Im the king of a country I will also not name for personal reasons.

bennjamin
08-10-2013, 07:24 PM
Good old chapelles show haha...


Your reply wasn't warranted , mate. You have no idea about me or any other member on here, just because I don't agree with your idea doesn't not mean I'm anything of the above.
I made a clear point and ask again what's in it for you ? What forum are you on that it "works" ?

PHO
08-10-2013, 08:03 PM
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar79_70.gif

Chernoby1
08-10-2013, 08:45 PM
Pho. Stop posting. Your avatar keeps getting me excited.

/hijack

EJ1
08-10-2013, 08:46 PM
Your reply wasn't warranted , mate. You have no idea about me or any other member on here, just because I don't agree with your idea doesn't not mean I'm anything of the above.
I made a clear point and ask again what's in it for you ? What forum are you on that it "works" ?

My reply wasn't warranted?

What is this a Benjamins democracy...

I do have a great concept in regards to you and other members on here. Members have contacted me in regards to your moderating, site attitude, ethics and plain and simply they're sick of the manner in which you approach things.

You never approach anything in a polite manner it's always as if it is a personal attack. The way your comments are interpreted and implied are very rude. Seems like you're on a bit of a cyber power trip.

PHO
08-10-2013, 08:47 PM
Sarry chernobyl

EJ1
08-10-2013, 08:51 PM
I'm registered on the jzx forums , There's nothing in it for me...

It was a suggestion for the whole community they're idea's that everyone can benefit from.

EJ1
08-10-2013, 09:12 PM
I don't consider myself to be a nasty person neither, I'd like to be able to log in and access the site without getting into any heated debates or anything which will cause an argument.

Ozhonda is great, The people here have a bright sense of humour and are really helpful. I've learnt a substantial amount of relevant and important information off the site here and I'd like to continue that.

It reminds me of the JZX forums in a way... I guess in saying that it reminds me of how great they work with just a few differences. Hence my suggestions for Ozhonda to start competing with some of the site features and discounts it has to offer.

Surely there would be a Honda dealer out there willing to agree in a sponsorship contract with the administrator of Ozhonda?

I know for certain members would appreciate discounted OEM items and the dealer would respect the business of the entire Ozhonda community. All the members here purchasing their parts through one Honda dealer in Australia or possibly even New Zealand is sure to attract some kind of extreme profit increase, Even parts at discounted prices plus all of our sales is enough to close the deal.

bennjamin
08-10-2013, 10:47 PM
I'm registered on the jzx forums , There's nothing in it for me...

It was a suggestion for the whole community they're idea's that everyone can benefit from.


The shout box , or the discounted parts from a dealer ? Why are you pushing the idea of discounted parts ? This isn't to keep a small chat box running but to offer sales right ?

I'm an admin but I'm allowed an opinion on this , mate.

NightKids
08-10-2013, 10:59 PM
My reply wasn't warranted?

What is this a Benjamins democracy...

I do have a great concept in regards to you and other members on here. Members have contacted me in regards to your moderating, site attitude, ethics and plain and simply they're sick of the manner in which you approach things.

You never approach anything in a polite manner it's always as if it is a personal attack. The way your comments are interpreted and implied are very rude. Seems like you're on a bit of a cyber power trip.

Sorry Benny... but the man has a point.

bennjamin
08-10-2013, 11:02 PM
Sorry Benny... but the man has a point.

Make a thread about it with EJ1

But for now , what are your thoughts on the topic ?

EJ1
08-10-2013, 11:19 PM
Both are viable contributions/suggestions to be honest. I can understand if members aren't all up for the shoutbox idea but anyone who refuses to save money is plainly crazy in my opinion. Surely members would appreciate saving money and putting it towards finances, shopping and various everyday bills they may have, Or would you rather pay RRP for parts which you may need whenever the time comes. I'm not completely sure behind your motive but it sounds like you're implying saving money is a bad idea?

You interpret the sponsorship idea/dealer discount idea as a negative suggestion and contribution where as the shoutbox idea is a reasonable option which can be argued apon. I think it should be the other way around if you ask me.

If you like I'll be happy to post screenshots of messages members have sent me in regards to your decisions on the site, I'm explaining where you went wrong so you may rectify the way you conduct your moderation here. Of all people yes members have decided to contact me and only because I speak my mind where I feel a poor decision was made where as other members tend to keep quiet and let it brew inside of them. I was one of the members who poor decisions were made against by yourself and other members have seen this and decided to PM me in regards to the matters.

The reason why both of these suggestions work well in the jzx100 community is because we're a more established community and actually take the time for trial and error where as here you don't want to give something a shot. Life is all about making smart and poor decisions as everyone should know and you can only make smart decisions by learning from your mistakes. In no way shape or form am I suggesting my contributions are poor ideas hence why I'm determined to give it a shot.

You and most members will appreciate these suggestions if you just give them a shot and believe. Have faith and try something new!

EJ1
08-10-2013, 11:25 PM
Benjamin I never said you weren't allowed an opinion on the topic neither, It's a free country where people are entitled to their own opinion and I don't hold it against you but please think about what I've said.

I'm sure Ozhonda would operate and function way better if you just tried something new.

Code the shoutbox into the forums, Apply for a sponsorship at a Honda dealer. There's nothing to loose there's only benefit. It's not like I'm suggesting something that will cost the site money or tarnish our reputation.

bennjamin
08-10-2013, 11:26 PM
Mate you personally attacked me after my opinion of your idea , now it sounds like blackmail ? Lol.




You are not going to get any honda dealership to offer any kind of discount , if so - please direct them to traders@ozhonda.com and they can sign up as a trader / sponsor and offer their "discounts".

Does anyone else think a shout box is a good idea ?

EJ1
08-10-2013, 11:34 PM
Look I apologise in advance if you felt like it were a personal attack, I may have over reacted a bit and I apologise because I know I was in the wrong. Thankyou for the email link and I will do my best in bettering this community.

I expect nothing in return what so ever I just felt the need to contribute to the Honda community in a positive manner which will benefit members. I'll be in contact with my good friend who's the administrator of the JZX forums and see how they approached the sponsorship contract. I have a good concept in how they've managed to pull it off so hopefully it shouldn't be too difficult for me as a friend of mine is employed by Honda here in South Australia and knows the proprietor very well.

Look lets just forget everything and start fresh, Me and you obviously got off on the wrong foot and I'd like to start from the beginning with you. If you felt that I had blackmailed you please PM me the quote where you felt blackmail was used against you and I will elaborate on the matter.

Once again I'm sorry we got off on the wrong foot hopefully we can start fresh?

curtis265
09-10-2013, 09:38 AM
good thread guys..

RenzokukenJ
09-10-2013, 01:43 PM
Look I apologise in advance if you felt like it were a personal attack, I may have over reacted a bit and I apologise because I know I was in the wrong. Thankyou for the email link and I will do my best in bettering this community.

I expect nothing in return what so ever I just felt the need to contribute to the Honda community in a positive manner which will benefit members. I'll be in contact with my good friend who's the administrator of the JZX forums and see how they approached the sponsorship contract. I have a good concept in how they've managed to pull it off so hopefully it shouldn't be too difficult for me as a friend of mine is employed by Honda here in South Australia and knows the proprietor very well.

Look lets just forget everything and start fresh, Me and you obviously got off on the wrong foot and I'd like to start from the beginning with you. If you felt that I had blackmailed you please PM me the quote where you felt blackmail was used against you and I will elaborate on the matter.

Once again I'm sorry we got off on the wrong foot hopefully we can start fresh?

lmzo wot is this

must be strong troll

EJ1
09-10-2013, 04:34 PM
Not at all, Just want to get along without conflict here RenzokukenJ

joyride
09-10-2013, 09:59 PM
wow, what kind of shit storm happened in here?

to the OP, the chatbox may seem like a good idea on another forum but i also dont think it will work here. the reasons have been listed by the members already and it'll be even more work for the moderators to try and keep up with. i personally have trouble keeping an eye on this site as it is, i'm sure it would be the same for other moderators.
that also goes for finding a forum sponsor. the moderators would be hard pressed to find time to do this. if you are willing to do some legwork then we (the moderators and its members) would really appreciate it.

we do appreciate your suggestions on making the site more community focussed, if you have other suggestions we're all ears.

EJ1
09-10-2013, 10:32 PM
Thanks Joyride appreciate the contribution!

Yeah I'll have to put the feelers out and see what I can dig up. Discounts on OEM prices is always a positive no matter what... These are really my only two suggestions for now and I'll be more then happy to do my bit by bettering the site and helping where need be.

Just picked up my first Honda today actually, FD1 civic VTi-L. Got big plans for it and around 20k to spend on an FD2R complete conversion once my JZX100 chaser sells. I shouldn't go on too much but I'll be sure to create a new build thread for myself.