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quang
18-10-2013, 08:27 PM
As the title says people.

If the driveshaft is not installed properly (either at the gear box and hub) or if there is something wrong with it, can tyre chatter occur during cornering?

Other things have noticed is the steering wheel wobbles a little at lower speeds i.e. 50-60km/hr but the car drives straight and wheels are balanced.
The faster i go the less the steering wheel wobbles. Its not the wheel bearing either.

Thanks
Quang

Baby Face
19-10-2013, 01:13 AM
how about an allignment?

i dont know how anyone could not install the driveshaft properly if it wasnt you would have gearbox oil leak. one side pops in to the tranny easy, the other side slides onto the hub and the nut holds it.

unless the internals of the CVs were gone, and i thought that would only get worse with speed?

Daveho1
19-10-2013, 05:43 AM
if there is something wrong with the drive shaft yes it could cause chattering but as stated you would have bigger issues then chattering if it was incorrectly installed..
wanna tell us the rest of the story?

fillit
19-10-2013, 09:52 PM
how about an allignment?

i dont know how anyone could not install the driveshaft properly if it wasnt you would have gearbox oil leak. one side pops in to the tranny easy, the other side slides onto the hub and the nut holds it.

unless the internals of the CVs were gone, and i thought that would only get worse with speed?

if the hub side is loose, you can jack up the car and tug the wheel, you should hear/see movement to show that it's not done up properly.

also you should hear a thud whenever you weight transfer.

Baby Face
20-10-2013, 01:26 AM
why is it not wheel bearings?

Daveho1
20-10-2013, 05:18 AM
because its a secret apparently..
inb4bought used drive shaft

quang
20-10-2013, 06:05 PM
if there is something wrong with the drive shaft yes it could cause chattering but as stated you would have bigger issues then chattering if it was incorrectly installed..
wanna tell us the rest of the story?

Hi everyone,
So the story is i had a seized LHS hub on driveshaft and the CV boot had split. As the mechanic couldn't separate the hub and driveshaft, i got a second hand hub/knuckle (from a EK1) and got them to install it with a aftermarket driveshaft (sourced by them).
I had the wheel bearing checked and got a full wheel alignment, everything was ok and straight.
After that i went to Eastern Creek and i was experiencing tyre chatter during right hand turns.

During the whole time i had the track tyres on, i did notice a pulsing noise when driving around town (similar to a wheel bearing noise) got it checked and the bearings came up ok. We ended up putting it down to a hard spot on the front left tyre. However, when i swapped back to the stockies, the noise was still there at low speed and the chatter was also still there. I also noticed that the lower speeds the wheel would wobble slightly (with the track tyres it wobbled alot less). Both the noise and wobble are at their worst at lower speeds 50ish km/hr would go away at higher speeds. Since it still happens with the stockies i figured it has to do something with either the driveshaft or the knuckle/hub assembly.

Pretty sure the hub doesn't moved when shook may have to check the gearbox for leaks.

So thats the story.

Any ideas?

Baby Face
21-10-2013, 12:36 AM
put the car on jack stands at the front with the hand brake up, and do 50km/h with the front wheels in the air (well in the air not a few cms off the ground)

see if you can hear a noise see a wobble, and report back also while its up BEFORE you start doing 50km/h check the driveshaft by pulling on it, get a friend to do the pulling incase it falls so you will be safe.

cbauto
21-10-2013, 03:03 AM
Hi everyone,
So the story is i had a seized LHS hub on driveshaft and the CV boot had split. As the mechanic couldn't separate the hub and driveshaft, i got a second hand hub/knuckle (from a EK1) and got them to install it with a aftermarket driveshaft (sourced by them).
I had the wheel bearing checked and got a full wheel alignment, everything was ok and straight.
After that i went to Eastern Creek and i was experiencing tyre chatter during right hand turns.

During the whole time i had the track tyres on, i did notice a pulsing noise when driving around town (similar to a wheel bearing noise) got it checked and the bearings came up ok. We ended up putting it down to a hard spot on the front left tyre. However, when i swapped back to the stockies, the noise was still there at low speed and the chatter was also still there. I also noticed that the lower speeds the wheel would wobble slightly (with the track tyres it wobbled alot less). Both the noise and wobble are at their worst at lower speeds 50ish km/hr would go away at higher speeds. Since it still happens with the stockies i figured it has to do something with either the driveshaft or the knuckle/hub assembly.

Pretty sure the hub doesn't moved when shook may have to check the gearbox for leaks.

So thats the story.

Any ideas?
eliminate all the variables.

quang
08-03-2014, 10:08 PM
So just to close this one out. It turns out it was a driveshaft issue. Two things, the new outer shaft on the passenger side installed turned out to be the wrong length, it was longer that standard. The second bit was that something was wrong with the installation, the driveshaft had a bit too much play it in where i could make it knock as i pulled it in and out at the junction of the mid and outer shaft.
Thanks to stndrd for helping me find and sort out the source of the issue.