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infurNOS
27-10-2013, 02:15 AM
So i am thinking about tuning my ITR with S300. Basic mods - I/H/E.

Is anyone able to tell me (through your experience) how long a tune would take roughly?

I have spoken to a few tuners and they cant give me a straight answer - understandable but makes it hard to budget. As you can see, the car only has a few modifications (so i wouldnt expect more than a couple of hours on the dyno) with no idle issues - just running a bit rich. Would like to tune to get the most out of the mods, smooth out the VTEC 'kick', improve the midrange a fair bit and not run as rich.

Thanks.

bennjamin
27-10-2013, 08:38 AM
A previous trader on here could tune in half an hour - about the time it took for them to upload someone elses map.

Back on topic though - you really need to have your car running tip top condition BEFORE tuning as this adds time to the tune to basetune , then fix issue/s - then tune again - all at $80-100 per hr it adds up. I would guess about 4-5 hrs for a tune.

Chr1s
27-10-2013, 12:15 PM
It shouldn't take longer then 2-3 hours. It's so damn easy to tune these engines, especially when they are in near standard format.

Don't know why you can't get a simple answer from the boys, i'm surprised to be honest.

K series engines take considerably longer due to the VTC maps that need tuning individually to have a "proper" tune. B series engines have 4 maps that need WOT tuning then economy/partial throttle tuning which takes 30minutes to do. The areas in between the map is common sense. Cold start can be done the next morning but to be honest on a street B18 with S300 you will never have an issue.

infurNOS
27-10-2013, 09:21 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. Is it worth getting a basemap for a stock ITR loaded or one with I/H/E to save time? I figure it doesnt matter as the tuner will start from scratch?

What if there is NO basemap pre loaded, what happens then?

Chernoby1
27-10-2013, 10:28 PM
If there is no base map and the ECU can do VE tuning, i usually: guess the VE fig, decide on a target AFR and bam, got yourself a base map.

Chr1s
27-10-2013, 10:59 PM
The tuner will more than likely load up the ITR basemap and use that to start tuning from.

infurNOS
27-10-2013, 11:40 PM
The tuner will more than likely load up the ITR basemap and use that to start tuning from.

noob question, but where would he get the basemap from since Honda tuning here in Adelaide is almost non existent?
A seller has S300 with his tuned basemap loaded - is it a matter of just editting what he has?

u mad?
27-10-2013, 11:45 PM
If it's anything like kpro it will have several maps to chose from including stock base map

infurNOS
28-10-2013, 12:17 AM
If it's anything like kpro it will have several maps to chose from including stock base map

Yea you are right, SManager has several calibrations for a wide variety of Honda engines built in.

chez00
28-10-2013, 11:03 AM
Everyone in Adelaide will try and sell you a tune "package" saying they'll start from square one blah blah blah. These packages are generally around $1k+. The two tunes I have had have been extremely disappointing (1 on Wolf 3D and 1 on Vipec). The build I am currently doing will be tuned by myself as I just can't find anyone to trust with highly strung 4 cylinders (not Honda). I have not heard one good report in Adelaide from people running Hondata - it seems that all the "tuners" are just not interested in learning the setup. PM if you're interested in who I'd suggest to avoid, I'm not in the business of bad mouthing other businesses but one experience I had was just terrible.

cbauto
30-10-2013, 01:54 PM
Subscribed.

infurNOS
30-10-2013, 02:00 PM
I have just been quoted between 600-990 for a tune here in Adelaide - not including software. Pretty hefty if you ask me. Considering my civic with same mods was a 1.5hr tune for a total of $300

stndrd
30-10-2013, 04:54 PM
Bring your car to Melbourne and I will get it sorted for you :D

NelsonLSY
30-10-2013, 10:48 PM
I have just been quoted between 600-990 for a tune here in Adelaide - not including software. Pretty hefty if you ask me. Considering my civic with same mods was a 1.5hr tune for a total of $300

Hey thats very good price.
That was from graham west right?
what ecu was it tuned with?

I was thinking about doing the same thing to my b18c2 but i only got a chipped p72
and dunno if it could be tuned in Adelaide..

infurNOS
31-10-2013, 11:36 AM
Hey thats very good price.
That was from graham west right?
what ecu was it tuned with?

I was thinking about doing the same thing to my b18c2 but i only got a chipped p72
and dunno if it could be tuned in Adelaide..

When i had my civic yes it was tuned at graham west. The tune was so cheap because i was using non commercial software that an acquaintance designed and programmed, which was very very good, possibly better than Hondata at no-where near the price. Did the job and literally cut the tuning time down by half. Unfortunately he does not tune any more (or just doesn't like me) either way, their choice and not mine.

You can still purchase hondata if you want to tune it and end it to ECU-MAN to install it into your ECU.

NelsonLSY
31-10-2013, 06:23 PM
When i had my civic yes it was tuned at graham west. The tune was so cheap because i was using non commercial software that an acquaintance designed and programmed, which was very very good, possibly better than Hondata at no-where near the price. Did the job and literally cut the tuning time down by half. Unfortunately he does not tune any more (or just doesn't like me) either way, their choice and not mine.

You can still purchase hondata if you want to tune it and end it to ECU-MAN to install it into your ECU.

oh such a shame...
budget a bit tight for hondata at the moment so may just leave it for now..

300 really sound like a bargain....

Dun think anyone in sa can tune with crome...

infurNOS
31-10-2013, 11:02 PM
Bring your car to Melbourne and I will get it sorted for you :D

i wish...

stndrd
01-11-2013, 12:11 PM
i wish...

Excuse for a road trip bro :D

infurNOS
01-11-2013, 01:13 PM
Excuse for a road trip bro :D

you have your own dyno stndrd?

stndrd
01-11-2013, 03:30 PM
I have a dyno next door that we can hire. Dougie_504 will be getting his EF8 tuned by the guys next door in the next month or so

infurNOS
01-11-2013, 05:04 PM
What are dyno charges for a tune there?

stndrd
01-11-2013, 08:20 PM
PM me and we can talk more

mocchi
01-11-2013, 10:51 PM
What are dyno charges for a tune there?

abt 800-1200. same pretty much in your area.