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fa_sumo
21-02-2014, 10:51 AM
i'm after a slight drop for the cl9, nothing extreme just to improve appearance with 18inch (fn2r) rims.

from what i gather i can either go springs&shocks or coilovers. What I don't want is to lose too much ride comfort. I have absolutely no intentions of tracking the car only daily driving mainly highway driving.

in terms of pricing it seems as though spring&shocks pricing including installation is very similar to coilovers installed?

what would be my bets options?

d1zzo
21-02-2014, 11:00 AM
ill go for coilover so you can adjs the height and also depends on what springs you get.. i got teins springs and front 1.7inch and rear 1.3 dropepd.. it all depends what you feeling like

fa_sumo
21-02-2014, 11:10 AM
where is the best/cheapest place to get descent springs and are you using stock shocks or aftermarket?

mladsta
21-02-2014, 12:06 PM
I would go for coilovers man, buddyclub n+ or bc br is the best bang for buck coilovers, and you can adjust the dampening to softests. jdm yard sells buddyclub n+ for $1400 but you can pick up second hand ones for less, i just prefer new suspension over used (personal preference)

d1zzo
21-02-2014, 02:22 PM
where is the best/cheapest place to get descent springs and are you using stock shocks or aftermarket?

Stock shocks

DreadAngel
21-02-2014, 02:52 PM
OP, what height drop are you after?

Cause if the lowered springs don't match close enough to what you want, can be difficult. You can alternatively go Koni + GCs, guaranteed to be comfy as long as you're not dumping it on its ass :)

charliebrown
21-02-2014, 04:41 PM
Since your main concern is not 'losing ride comfort' and purely for looks, I'd recommend some quality progressive springs. If your dampers are still fairly new, then something like eibach pro kit on stock shocks will be fine. If cars got a bit of mileage on it, could go with koni+eibach or even koni+gc. Since it's fn2r wheels im assuming you ain't all bout dat stans life so adjustability wouldn't be necessary

Rooster
21-02-2014, 05:53 PM
+1 for Koni's + GC's
Had them for months now, I have them low enough to remove wheel gap and the settings are a bit firm, it's not uncomfortable by any means, but it's not the same as stock ride comfort either.

fa_sumo
21-02-2014, 09:11 PM
i havent measured the amount of drop i want but nothing extreme definitly have no intentions of stancing, just enough to reduce wheel gap. Where would i source eibach shocks and koni springs? also im assuming bc's are shocks also?

d1zzo
21-02-2014, 11:59 PM
Bc is the brand of coilover.. eibach springs and koni shocks xD

fa_sumo
24-02-2014, 06:59 PM
can anyone suggest where to buy springs/shocks combination? I notice jdmyard has the buddyclub coil overs for $1300 could they be sourced internationally any cheaper or would shipping make it about the same?

fa_sumo
24-02-2014, 08:34 PM
also could i just go for eibach springs and stock shocks, current mileage ~120k km? or would i be better off with springs and shocks?

tony1234
25-02-2014, 06:28 PM
also could i just go for eibach springs and stock shocks, current mileage ~120k km? or would i be better off with springs and shocks?

With that amount of kms on your shocks i'd go shocks and springs

Fredoops
26-02-2014, 12:18 PM
Fulcrum sells Tein Street basics for like 900 bucks and it's can be re-sold., may be a better option.

fa_sumo
26-02-2014, 07:13 PM
in terms of ride comfort would there be a significant difference between spring and shock combo (eibach and bilsten b12 pro kit) and the tein coil overs? Also is the only difference between the tein street basic and advance the ability to adjust damper in advance?

Rudy
26-02-2014, 11:30 PM
always go with adjustable , whether that be spring/shock combo or off the shelf coilover kit...learnt the hard way. The advance is only about 1100 thorugh fulcrum, so would be better IMO to get that over the basic.

Fredoops
26-02-2014, 11:36 PM
always go with adjustable , whether that be spring/shock combo or off the shelf coilover kit...learnt the hard way. The advance is only about 1100 thorugh fulcrum, so would be better IMO to get that over the basic.

This.

Height and damper adjustment means you can adjust to suit your need.

You aren't stuck with a setup if you don't like it.


Personally prefer the chunked mono tube setup in my Hdrives than the skinny twin tube setup in the Lower range teins

DreadAngel
27-02-2014, 01:03 AM
in terms of ride comfort would there be a significant difference between spring and shock combo (eibach and bilsten b12 pro kit) and the tein coil overs? Also is the only difference between the tein street basic and advance the ability to adjust damper in advance?

iirc, the spring rate on the eibach and Bilstein kits [So recommend Bilstein, beats most big brands out there ;)] are nice and comfy... The Tein low end ones you're asking about will not be as nice [Both in performance and comfort] compared the Bilstein [Unsure of Eibach, depends what Shocks you're teaming them up with] :)

axispower
27-02-2014, 07:19 PM
I can confirm, Tein Street Basis for ~$900 checking in.

Easy to raise it, easy to lower it (like any basic coils, I guess. I had to do it recently to clear a bloody defect of my non-government issued number plates). Obviously, as DreadAngel said above, they are not as nice in terms of comfort and performance - but still decent for the money. And with that in mind - what bilsteins are around that price of ~$900 and match or surpass the quality of the Tein Street Basis?

fa_sumo
27-02-2014, 08:07 PM
that was what I considering. I'm not sure about whether its the cheapest price but I found the bilstein and eibach spring/shock combo (b12 pro kit) from eibach australia delivered for $1200-1300 however this is obviously only springs and shocks and i dont think the bilstein shocks are adjustable. on the other hand there is tein coilovers which can be had from $900-$1100 depending

DreadAngel
27-02-2014, 08:34 PM
Unless you're intending on racing your car then returning it to street spec OR if you're into perfecting the car and want to play around with damper adjustments etc, adjustable dampers aren't really needed. Height well there should be photos of what it looks like so if that's ok for you then you're good. If not then check out other stuff =)

ChaosMaster
28-02-2014, 08:53 AM
I went Tein H-Tech spings on OEM shocks. They work well, minimal drop leaving a 2 finger gap, and were the cheapest option. OEM shocks won't work as well and will wear out faster with lowered springs on them. On mine, it certainly feels a little firmer. However, as I put the springs in myself, I figured I could wait until these shocks died, and then buy replacement shocks and changed them in the future. If you don't intend to do the install yourself, then grab the shocks together with the springs, or go Coilovers in one go. Installation works out to be around $200 mark each time, so you may as well save that and do it all at once.

Depending on how long you intend to keep your car, I would recommend going Coilovers if you only intend to keep it a short period of time, as you can take them off and resell them to partially recover your loss. For the most part, especially if you don't intend to install or adjust the suspension yourself, there's no real advantage of going Coilovers compared to Springs&Shocks, other than perhaps it being a bit easier to source a single part then 2 different ones. BTW, I'll be looking at Blistein shocks when my OEM ones die.

charliebrown
28-02-2014, 11:42 AM
that was what I considering. I'm not sure about whether its the cheapest price but I found the bilstein and eibach spring/shock combo (b12 pro kit) from eibach australia delivered for $1200-1300 however this is obviously only springs and shocks and i dont think the bilstein shocks are adjustable. on the other hand there is tein coilovers which can be had from $900-$1100 depending

this seems very cheap. b12 pro kit is b8 shocks paired with eibach springs. i was quoted over 1700 for bilstein b8 shocks alone, ep3 though. id go with those over the pov spec teins anyday

mocchi
28-02-2014, 11:46 AM
this seems very cheap. b12 pro kit is b8 shocks paired with eibach springs. i was quoted over 1700 for bilstein b8 shocks alone, ep3 though. id go with those over the pov spec teins anyday

bro dont diss my teins
theyre great for racing on my local private track prinny hwy. jdm>*

fa_sumo
28-02-2014, 09:14 PM
well im not too sure. I just did a quick google search of bilstein b12 pro kit australia and aibach direct came up.

http://www.eibachdirect.com/p/5522435/b12-pro-kit.html

$1195 + $28 shipping to SA = $1223?

then I would have to pay for installation on top.

Would this be the best option compared to coilovers since I have absolutely no intentions of tracking and stance? All I want out of them is to reduce the gap between the gaurds and wheels to solely improve looks

Fredoops
28-02-2014, 10:20 PM
at that price?

hell no

axispower
28-02-2014, 11:36 PM
Do yourself a favour and get the poverty tein spec. The 400-500 dollars you save you can spend on installation. And you've got yourself a respectable set of coils on your honda accord euro. You said it yourself you aren't tracking or being a stance phaggot - you will regret spending over 1.5k on coils + installation on a car that you just want to lower and keep some comfort.

Exactly what I did anyway

charliebrown
28-02-2014, 11:43 PM
wat

>wants comfort, doesnt track
>buys cheap coils

wat

Fredoops
01-03-2014, 12:35 AM
wat

>wants comfort, doesnt track
>buys cheap coils

wat

The tein street basis coils for the Accord euro is actually very similar to stock in terms of spring rate and damper setup.

those sports spring kit probably have a higher spring rate than those coils.