Legalities of B18c swaps.

[SIKCVC]

Well I made my choice a long time ago to stick with my bitch car and dump a b18c in it... I've recruited a few mates who've been there done that and are willing to help with the swap but what i need to know is: Do I need an engernears report? taking into consideration that it is a B-serries engine and civics DID come out with a B-serries engine in them?

lil help?

[civicboy]

yeah u need the engineers report

& uuhhmmmm EG6 B16A / EK Vti-R B16A1 or somethin like dat

[[[d a n n y]]]

if ur car originally had a 1.6 then no enginerres report cuz when u change ur engnie and if it's 200cc more than what ur changne from u need a certificated but if not over 200cc u dunt need it

yes the EG6 came with the bserise engine..

when u do the b18c swop dont forget to change over all the brake components cuz u need it

[SIKCVC]

thanks for the info and the advice... also just for my own referance where did you sorce that info?

[A'PEXi]

ef sir, eg a1, ek a2 ?

[SIKCVC]

ok i got off my arse and found this info:


An engine which is not of the same type as offered by the manufacturer of the vehicle as original, but is similar in power, weight and emission standards to that of the original engine, may be fitted to such a vehicle. If alteration to the vehicle's frame or structure is involved and specially fabricated supports or structures are used an Approval Certificate must be supplied.


this no sort of clasifies exactly what i said... but could anyone tell me if it does produce similar emitions to the b16a??? I prosume it would.

[vti-2]

I'm not confident your power/weight ratio will be similar. B18C is heavier but not sure by how much. Anyone got an idea?

[[[d a n n y]]]

thanks for the info and the advice... also just for my own referance where did you sorce that info?

i sourced that info calling up the RTA cuz i am doing an b16a swop on a breeze

i do need a enginerrs certificated so..yeah..

that's how i sourced

[Setanta]

Danny: you forget that it WILL need to be engineer reported... because of the difference in power output. That is, not what the car came out with in other countries, but what your specific chassis came out with.

Upgrade the brakes to the engines spec and you will be fine :)

For example, A VTiR Civic could go to a VTiR 'teg engine, but a VTi Civic would prolly run into legal problems. Both would have to be engineer reported on if they went to the DC2 B18C.

I had to go through all of this when I was about to do a ZC powered ED... regardless of the fact that the JDM EF2 Civic came out with the engine, the brakes on mine were not up to the task. The engineer simply required CRX disks front and back to bring it in line with the EF2.

Just my 0.02

[Setanta]

Whoops... I meant SIKCVC's car, not yours... you know it will :)

[fried]

]]if ur car originally had a 1.6 then no enginerres report cuz when u change ur engnie and if it's 200cc more than what ur changne from u need a certificated but if not over 200cc u dunt need it

yes the EG6 came with the bserise engine..

when u do the b18c swop dont forget to change over all the brake components cuz u need it

how many cc's is the b16a? i think i read somewhere that the b18c is like 1834cc?

[OLM-02R]

You will need engineers report if the engine your going to put is an import, but if its local you dont need one...good luck

[SIKCVC]

just rang a couple of engerneers and yes you do need it... so many mixed messages :p its gonna cost me $480 but at least i wont get hastled by the cops over it. now all i need to know is the weight of both engines.

[tofu R]

how many cc's is the b16a? i think i read somewhere that the b18c is like 1834cc?

1834 for the gsi
we got a little less for vtir and itr .. 1797
look at those cubes man !
hehe =P
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[2ds]

i do believe the main difference between the b16a and the b18c's is infact the stroke (eg the engine was given more capacity by increasing the stroke not the bore) and so the b18c weighs almost the same as a b16a. i'd like to see a cop who could tell them apart too =)

if this sounds jumbled, well i havn't slept yet.

-2ds

[McChook]

reply...

I reckon go a B20 bottom end with a B16a Head (for compression). Stuff like Cams and valve springs fit the B16s and 18s, so why not pick the better of the two...

And like a cop would know the difference. All B series engines look exactly the same from the outside. Hell, my mate has a Datto 1600 with an SR20DE, and the cops dunno the diff.. and he's had the strip search 5 times on suspicion it might be a turbo...

[[[d a n n y]]]

well think about insurance... :?