My ED/EF Cable to Hydro Clutch Conversion

[markismaximus]

A Cable to Hydraulic clutch conversion kit for the EF Civic and CRX RHD Chassis.

Now available at www.efclutchconversions.com or email efclutchconversions@gmail.com

What's included in the Kit:

* 2 x CNC'd 6061 Aluminium Spacers
* Complete Pedal Assembly (assembled with new OEM components)
* All fastener Hardware for installation
* New OEM CMC Gasket
* Installation Instructions

Pedal Assembly

http://www.efclutchconversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/cropped-1_1200x600_black.jpg

http://www.efclutchconversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/cropped-2_1200x600_black.jpg

CNC'd Spacers

http://www.efclutchconversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/cropped-4_1200x600.jpg

http://www.efclutchconversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/cropped-5_1200x600.jpg

Hardware

http://www.efclutchconversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/cropped-6_1200x600.jpg

Installation

http://www.efclutchconversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Bay7.1.jpg

http://www.efclutchconversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Bay7.2.jpg

http://www.efclutchconversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Bay7.0.jpg

[Jasemas]

Whoa this is awesome stuff

[mocchi]

shieeetttt so good.

[mooshie]

This is awesome!

I just said **** it to hydro and put all Type R internals into a 92-93 Integra YS1 box...

[grifty]

So you plan on using stock pedals right?

How will they work as the cable type is a pull movement vs a hydro which is a push movement?

[markismaximus]

Whoa this is awesome stuff


shieeetttt so good.


This is awesome!

I just said **** it to hydro and put all Type R internals into a 92-93 Integra YS1 box...

Thanks gents, now into the detail

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The Long Story and development

I'm in the process of an ED3 Sedan Build, and for the old Honda enthusiasts amongst us, you will know the EF'ED chassis only came equipped with cable actuated clutches, as does the DA Teg.

This poses a problem for anyone wanting to swap a B-series (such as myself) or any hydro gearbox into this body. With good condition cable gearboxes becoming rather difficult to find these days I started looking into what was available "off the shelf".

There are a range of options from adapters you fit onto your gear box, to mounts which modify the existing pedal to actuate an internal clutch master cylinder (CMC), to the cut and shut method from a hydro firewall.

All of which I was less than impressed with.

Some current methods of conversion:

Lever arm utilising clutch cable.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Clutch2_zps1b0c370d.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Clutch2_zps1b0c370d.jpg.html)

Internally mounted CMC

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Clutch3_zps07484184.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Clutch3_zps07484184.jpg.html)

Aftermarket pedal with bracket welded into chassis

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Clutch4_zpsc2def36a.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Clutch4_zpsc2def36a.jpg.html)

Modified cable clutch pedal bracket

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Clutch5_zpsf6f2c01a.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Clutch5_zpsf6f2c01a.jpg.html)

So after some brainstorming I came up with my solution, a 2 part sandwich adapter which mounts onto the firewall to create flat mounting faces for CMC and clutch pedal. I plan on mounting an S2k CMC as the reservoir is combined so easier to install and looks cleaner. Like so:

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Clutchs2k_zps3fdb4262.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Clutchs2k_zps3fdb4262.jpg.html)

First step was taking a plaster impression of the firewall.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/2_zps0095ce15.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/2_zps0095ce15.jpg.html)

The plaster mould is 3d scanned to produce a mesh STL file.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Combined_zps642664d9.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Combined_zps642664d9.jpg.html)

Then the fun really began. Reverse engineering a surface that has no definitive form is relatively time consuming.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/10_sml_zps33beb10a.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/10_sml_zps33beb10a.jpg.html)

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/50_sml_zpsa75a2fe8.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/50_sml_zpsa75a2fe8.jpg.html)

The end result, within 0.5mm tolerance of the original scan.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/75_sml_zpsa4b98647.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/75_sml_zpsa4b98647.jpg.html)

Once the surface is finished I imported into another software package and started work on the spacers.

Firewall side

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Clutch7_zps12bff6cc.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Clutch7_zps12bff6cc.jpg.html)

Interior side

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Clutch8_zps8864b7ab.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Clutch8_zps8864b7ab.jpg.html)

More to come

[~Sp33~]

So you plan on using stock pedals right?

In comes Mr assumptions.

Looking good lambross

[grifty]

So which pedals are going to be used?

[markismaximus]

you will have to wait and see

[carayan]

this is bloody insane

[markismaximus]

this is bloody insane

lol. My madness knows no bounds.

Is it really though. Not that crazy, just trying to do it better than the current methods.

[~Sp33~]

this is bloody insane

http://i.imgur.com/j74SykU.gif

[markismaximus]

To ensure part fitment, clearance, and to allow further mock-up of the pedal assembly I had the parts 3d printed. Depending on material choice this process can be relatively inexpensive and provide valuable assessment. This particular material is a Nylon SLS. So strong enough to serve as a relatively functional part.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Clutch9_zps03c55c37.jpeg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Clutch9_zps03c55c37.jpeg.html)

And the firewall side blu tacked in place. I will be welding those fuel line holes shut as I will be re-routing my lines

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Clutch10_zps33029a4f.jpeg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Clutch10_zps33029a4f.jpeg.html)

[~Sp33~]

The picture really doesn't give the contour fitment justice.

[grifty]

this looks awesome! How's the booster clearance?

[markismaximus]

this looks awesome! How's the booster clearance?

There is about 20mm from the booster to edge of spacer. That's with DC2 booster

[chez00]

Awesome work - great to see some real ingenuity on ozhondie. I reckon I'd have at least a few customers who would be interested in this if you wanted to do a small scale production run.

[pat88c]

Interesting to see how it turns out and cost of end product

You would sell them by hand full if you go into mass production

[ceekay101]

Subscribed. Keen to see finished product. I did the internally mounted CMC sonem conversion (which is actually designed for lhd... what a pain). Its fully functional, but doesnt feel oem. If you come up with something better im in.

[cbauto]

I have ef8 and if you have reliable bolt on kit, will be keen

[markismaximus]

Awesome work - great to see some real ingenuity on ozhondie. I reckon I'd have at least a few customers who would be interested in this if you wanted to do a small scale production run.


Interesting to see how it turns out and cost of end product

You would sell them by hand full if you go into mass production

Cheers guys, will keep this is mind.


Subscribed. Keen to see finished product. I did the internally mounted CMC sonem conversion (which is actually designed for lhd... what a pain). Its fully functional, but doesnt feel oem. If you come up with something better im in.

My solution will feel OEM, as I intend on using an OEM pedal (not from an EF/ED obviously). Also mounting the CMC inside the car is less than ideal with those other kits


I have ef8 and if you have reliable bolt on kit, will be keen

It will be bolt on, but still requires holes to be drilled through your firewall.


Speaking of which...

Using the 3d printed part to mark hole positions, and center punched to start drilling.

No going back now!

You will notice the diagonal holes are elongated due to the shape of the firewall. The final touches are done by hand with a circular file.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/001_zps4883f48c.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/001_zps4883f48c.jpg.html)

Slowly increasing hole sizes, also drilling perpendicular to the surface.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/002_zps63119960.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/002_zps63119960.jpg.html)

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/003_zps648dbf51.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/003_zps648dbf51.jpg.html)

Next is hole saw time, again taking it easy to ensure everything will line up.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/004_zps31db3259.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/004_zps31db3259.jpg.html)

And presto, I am halfway to having a hydro ED ;)

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/006_zps7a160064.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/006_zps7a160064.jpg.html)

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/0051_zpsd31a9136.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/0051_zpsd31a9136.jpg.html)

The inside, sorry about grainy image. Lighting was rubbish

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/007_zpsa9507d6b.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/007_zpsa9507d6b.jpg.html)

[~Sp33~]

Looks like it fits mint (Y)!

[90LAN]

very nice

[ceekay101]

Thats freaking sweet.

[markismaximus]

Looks like it fits mint (Y)!

You want believe it till you see it. It is literally perfect


very nice


Thats freaking sweet.

Thanks

[cbauto]

Hhhhhnnnnnggggg

[mocchi]

hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggggg

[markismaximus]

Bit of an update, been working on the pedal. A few things to consider, achieving OEM pedal position is key whilst still ensuring full stroke of the CMC. Clearing the steering column is another one... Definitely useful having an ED as my daily for an easy reference point

OEM pedal

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/001_zps7ab5d16a.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/001_zps7ab5d16a.jpg.html)

marking centre line of stock hole position before cutting

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/002_zps83d5ebc2.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/002_zps83d5ebc2.jpg.html)

using masking tape to ensure a straight edge

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/003_zps1cd12f08.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/003_zps1cd12f08.jpg.html)

post cutting

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/004_zps235f878e.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/004_zps235f878e.jpg.html)

new mounting plate cut from 2mm plate

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/005_zpsab3d732f.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/005_zpsab3d732f.jpg.html)

Holes drilled and position marked

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/006_zps7fe50bb7.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/006_zps7fe50bb7.jpg.html)

dummied

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/007_zps894cbbbf.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/007_zps894cbbbf.jpg.html)

mounting plate and small gussets ready to weld after cleaning weld areas

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/008_zpsb910d414.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/008_zpsb910d414.jpg.html)

and ready to go. When welding flat plate it helps to use some form of heat sink (aluminium) to draw the heat out of the material and reduce distortion

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/009_zps8513d8d7.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/009_zps8513d8d7.jpg.html)

[cbauto]

Can you like take 2 weeks leave and finish it already.


Hehe

[mocchi]

did u make template for that plate before welding?
sell that too as a kit lol

send me a kit to review
hehe

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar10691_28.gif

[markismaximus]

Can you like take 2 weeks leave and finish it already.

Hehe

Lol, no can do. I'm almost finished anyway. Just got a million other things to do at the same time.


did u make template for that plate before welding?
sell that too as a kit lol

send me a kit to review
hehe



don't worry mate, it's all being documented... I'll send you a kit in exchange for some $$$$

Added some gull wing to the pedal this evening ;) don' want any flex happening

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/IMG_5284-Copy_zps9ef3c566.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/IMG_5284-Copy_zps9ef3c566.jpg.html)

[mocchi]

clean tig. aluminium plate def helps alot haha
nice

[carayan]

fuk me dem welds

[neut]

Sell, I buy for my CRX lol

[markismaximus]

Managed to finish off most of the pedal detail yesterday, just need to paint the pedal box and the pedal too.

The final support section. I've added this piece as I had to chop the top of the pedal box off. All honda hydro clutch pedals I've come across always have an additional bolt running through the top of the pedal box into the chassis to help support the pedal. This is where this side support comes in, helps reduce the pedal box flexing and also distributes the force against the firewall more evenly.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/1_zps984c6ef0.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/1_zps984c6ef0.jpg.html)

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/2_zps43b1f52d.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/2_zps43b1f52d.jpg.html)

Modified brake pedal box, you can see where I've trimmed the side as well as the pivot point for the original cable pedal. You can also see the stud which the new pedal makes use of.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/3_zpse9a222b3.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/3_zpse9a222b3.jpg.html)

Bolted up

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/IMG_5311-Copy_zps38451bb5.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/IMG_5311-Copy_zps38451bb5.jpg.html)

The original dream to use the stock standard clutch pedal came to an end with still keeping OEM pedal position, basically it was impossible to mount the pedal assembly close enough to the brake pedal in its stock form.

I had a spare EG brake pedal lying about so it become the donor pedal, it also has a nice meaty 8mm material thickness to weld together

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/5_zps05c3210b.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/5_zps05c3210b.jpg.html)

The nub ready to be tacked in place

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/6_zps231434b5.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/6_zps231434b5.jpg.html)

Clamping everything in position. Want the pedal to sit flat and straight with the brake pedal

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/7_zps368ba68f.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/7_zps368ba68f.jpg.html)

All welded up

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/9_zpsa1f178a6.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/9_zpsa1f178a6.jpg.html)

End result pics to come using my hatch as a comparison ;) just gotta take some pics in daylight

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Amazing work.

[~Sp33~]

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/9_zpsa1f178a6.jpg

These pics make it look like you painted your car the same colour as mine. lololol

[markismaximus]

These pics make it look like you painted your car the same colour as mine. lololol

wellllllll, i was actually thinking of respraying in the same colour...


















































http://webidsite.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/troll-meme.jpg

[cbauto]

when are you going to start production of the 3D printed bracket?

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Steve, I didn't know your car was pimping inprimer

[~Sp33~]

Steve, I didn't know your car was pimping inprimer

You should have subbed my build thread then.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

You should have subbed my build thread then.
I've been subscribed the whole time + watching from HT lmao

[markismaximus]

a couple of vital components... :eek:

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/IMG_5099_zpsc48ddeea.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/IMG_5099_zpsc48ddeea.jpg.html)

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/IMG_5100_zpsfa9cd664.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/IMG_5100_zpsfa9cd664.jpg.html)

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/IMG_5101_zpsd467e47a.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/IMG_5101_zpsd467e47a.jpg.html)

[pat88c]

It real metal now
Mmm

[~Sp33~]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2011/09/mind_blown.gif

[markismaximus]

It real metal now
Mmm


http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2011/09/mind_blown.gif

you know it... blowin minds all over the place

[latinstyle69]

This is awesome!

[markismaximus]

This is awesome!

Cheers

[mocchi]

bump y u no update

[markismaximus]

bump y u no update

I'm in South America till the new year.

[~Sp33~]

If your other half found out that you were on ozhonda right now, .....lololoo

[markismaximus]

Lol, hardly! The place we're staying only has wifi in the main lounge area. So just come have a beer and check emails, FB. Etc

[markismaximus]

Finally an update, it's been finished for a while now but been busy on other stuff

All minty and freshly greased

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/20%20-%20photo%202_zpssxty7nao.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/20%20-%20photo%202_zpssxty7nao.jpg.html)

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/20%20-%20photo%203_zps5mj6ckwr.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/20%20-%20photo%203_zps5mj6ckwr.jpg.html)

and something in the pipeline ;)

[cbauto]

make me one. srs

just send me an invoice

[carayan]

now isnt that something special

[DaveXR8]

Nice Mark.

Keen to see what your thoughts are on it once its all fitted up.

[SpikeED3]

Brilliant!

[markismaximus]

make me one. srs

just send me an invoice

Can do. I'm hoping to have the first production prototype done in the next couple of weeks


now isnt that something special

Cheers


Nice Mark.

Keen to see what your thoughts are on it once its all fitted up.

I plan on fitting it all up shortly, bleeding the clutch and putting the drivers seat back in to feel how everything is. Although the sedan is no where near being finished it will atleast validate everything.


Brilliant!

Cheers mate. I've seen your thread actually. Not that you want to change a healthy motor for nothing, but your car is a prime candidate for a swap. Given it's already EFI, someone else has done all the hard work for you

[SpikeED3]

Cheers mate. I've seen your thread actually. Not that you want to change a healthy motor for nothing, but your car is a prime candidate for a swap. Given it's already EFI, someone else has done all the hard work for you


Really?? That's good to know :D. lololol when I saw this thread the first thing I thought was "I want a 1.8 v-tech yo too". Not that I'm complaining about what I have, I'm very grateful. So I might wait until my current D16 dies, then upgrade.

But I'm really happy for you dropping in a B18, that's very cool. It's good to see the ED3's living on.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Renaissance_x]

This is awesome!

I just said **** it to hydro and put all Type R internals into a 92-93 Integra YS1 box...
This must have cost a fortune.

[mooshie]

Not really. No more than a rebuilt box which I would do if I was swapping in a hydro setup and cheaper because there are no more additional parts required. I picked up the internals and casing for what ended up being about $400 and a new final drive for $120. Add in the new bearings, synchros, seals etc and a couple of required parts and it's a good option. I was just lucky to come across parts as they are not easy to find.

Little bit more detail-http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?180433-B-gearbox-LSD-questions

[markismaximus]

I was just lucky to come across parts as they are not easy to find.

This is basically the crux of that post. You were in the right place at the right time. We all know late 80s Honda parts are going to become pretty scarce in the next few years. Especially parts that aren't f'ed. How often do you go the the wreckers looking for some parts only to find they're in worse condition than the ones on your car

[mooshie]

Exactly, that's why what you are doing is so great.

[Renaissance_x]

you can rebuild a ys1 with aftermarket parts instead of finding oem though???

[mooshie]

I didn't rebuild a YS1, it's just the casing, I rebuilt an S80 R gearset. I believe you can find aftermarket parts for the older cable gear sets including YS1 still though

[markismaximus]

Test fitted everything over the weekend, filled with fluid and bled (even installed some new OEM pedal rubbers).

Everything fitted well, pedal feels good. Firmer than my stock ED6 cable pedal, but expected as it's obviously a bigger (heavy duty) clutch.

Comparison shot of my ED6 stock pedals, and the custom setup. Installed the steering linkage shroud to check clearance.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Compo_zpsv1oxulva.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Compo_zpsv1oxulva.jpg.html)

and the DC4 line I had lying around used to rig it up, not really pretty but served its purpose.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/ED3/Test%20Rig_zps7s2q6rm3.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/mx83cressida/media/ED3/Test%20Rig_zps7s2q6rm3.jpg.html)

[carayan]

youre a bloody magician

[Miniman_Alis]

This is amazing!!
not sure if I missed it but what pedal assembly did you use? EG/DC?

[pat88c]

Looks good

How far off to be small batch to mates and friends of ef ed civic and crx world?

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Shwing!

[Miniman_Alis]

^^ I would be interested in a kit for my EE3 Shuttle ;]

[cbauto]

http://procrasti-nation.eu/wp-content/uploads/Shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg

[markismaximus]

youre a bloody magician

Lol, thanks. Hardly magician though...


This is amazing!!
not sure if I missed it but what pedal assembly did you use? EG/DC?

No you didn't miss anything :zip:


Looks good

How far off to be small batch to mates and friends of ef ed civic and crx world?

The spacers are all done. I could order a batch of 5-10 with a 2 week turnaround (approx). But really without the pedal assy it's not really of much use. I'm hoping to have everything finished in the next few weeks to build a first production prototype.


^^ I would be interested in a kit for my EE3 Shuttle ;]

I'll shoot you a PM when I'm able to sell kits


http://images.lazygamer.net/2012/10/shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg

I'm working on it

[k20paddy]

Wow this looks awesome. And exactly what I need for my k20 ed3. I do hope you have this ready when I come to converting the car to manual. No pressure...

By any chance is this your website?

http://www.efclutchconversions.com/

[markismaximus]

Wow this looks awesome. And exactly what I need for my k20 ed3. I do hope you have this ready when I come to converting the car to manual. No pressure...

By any chance is this your website?

http://www.efclutchconversions.com/

Thanks. When are you planning on doing your conversion?

Yes it is my website

[k20paddy]

Thanks. When are you planning on doing your conversion?

Yes it is my website

Already started the engine swap although another month before things really begin to move.

I have looked at trying that Sonem setup, or creating something similar. But I don't like that it's not for RHD. You have me for sure when you get ready to sell.

[cbauto]

I'm working on it
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7c/7c094b22fec61b2726641a552f710cbc4ff68860754b542c77 042d872ad6fc2c.jpg

[cbauto]

bump!!!!!!!

[markismaximus]

Bit of a status update for those who are interested, holding off on pics for the time being for added suspense :p

- Additional spacers have been ordered

- Batch of OEM parts have been ordered and delivered

- First production prototype has been built, improvements incorporated into final design

- Final design is finished, all drawings completed.

- Waiting on quotes, order being placed Mon/Tues week coming (5 kits worth of parts)

Stay tuned

[Miniman_Alis]

sweeeeeet. One for mee

[k20paddy]

What are the chances of becoming one of the first lucky 5? I'm ready to provide feedback.

What are you suppling per kit and what extra will be needed? Will there be changes depending on what engine?

[markismaximus]

I think you are number 5 to show interest, but really it's first in best dressed.

I'll be offering 2 kits, a basic and full.

Basic Kit - (for those who want to develop their own pedal assembly)
* Includes 2 x CNC'd 6061 Aluminium Spacers
* Installation Instructions

Full Kit
* Includes 2 x CNC'd 6061 Aluminium Spacers
* Complete Pedal Assembly (housing and pedal, assembled with new OEM components)
* All fastener Hardware for installation
* New OEM CMC Gasket
* Installation Instructions

Additional parts required are a S2000 clutch master cylinder, and a clutch line.

The kit will work with all B-series swaps, K-series to be confirmed (I am happy to offer a refund for K-series swaps should it not fit)

Thanks for the interest.


What are the chances of becoming one of the first lucky 5? I'm ready to provide feedback.

What are you suppling per kit and what extra will be needed? Will there be changes depending on what engine?

[cbauto]

I think you are number 5 to show interest, but really it's first in best dressed.

I'll be offering 2 kits, a basic and full.

Basic Kit - $299 (for those who want to develop their own pedal assembly)
* Includes 2 x CNC'd 6061 Aluminium Spacers
* Installation Instructions

Full Kit - $499
* Includes 2 x CNC'd 6061 Aluminium Spacers
* Complete Pedal Assembly (housing and pedal, assembled with new OEM components)
* All fastener Hardware for installation
* New OEM CMC Gasket
* Installation Instructions

Additional parts required are a S2000 clutch master cylinder, and a clutch line.

The kit will work with all B-series swaps, K-series to be confirmed (I am happy to offer a refund for K-series swaps should it not fit)

Thanks for the interest.
Would DC2R cmc provide more room?

[markismaximus]

Would DC2R cmc provide more room?

The dc2 CMC measures 75mm off the firewall, s2000 measures 80mm.

So very slight benefit using dc2 CMC. You would also have the separate fluid reservoir to deal with, which just looks rubbish IMO

[[stealth]]

this is exactly what I need to get my project ED off the ground... genuinely keen when kits are made available!

[markismaximus]

Thanks mate, once everything's done I'll be posting up more information.

Check back in the next few weeks!


;3965681']this is exactly what I need to get my project ED off the ground... genuinely keen when kits are made available!

[[stealth]]

PM sent

[markismaximus]

First 5 kits are complete.

Details on what's required for fitment to follow in the next few days.

[cbauto]

Yiezz

[Miniman_Alis]

What happened to the side gusset/ bracket?

[markismaximus]

What happened to the side gusset/ bracket?

It comes with the hardware, now bolt on though as apposed to welded to account for tolerance when installed.

[chez00]

Great work, I'll definitely keep this in mind for customers.

[Miniman_Alis]

if you can make that bracket a L/triangle bracket would it make it more rigid?

[markismaximus]

Great work, I'll definitely keep this in mind for customers.

Thanks mate.


if you can make that bracket a L/triangle bracket would it make it more rigid?

It's not necessary, the material used for the pedal assy is significantly more rigid than the OEM stamped design. This is all that is required to tie it back to the chassis via an existing mounting point on the firewall.

[~Sp33~]

Looks awesome.

[markismaximus]

Looks awesome.

Cheers dude

[vtecdohcter]

my waiting is over. YES! thanks Markismaximus!
i have waited for someone to fabricate this for RHD EF for a long time.

[Miniman_Alis]

I will getting one of these off you next week Markismaximus!! :)

[wheytastic]

Awesome work bro!!

Once u design a Lhd one u can hit the US market

[markismaximus]

Awesome work bro!!

Once u design a Lhd one u can hit the US market

Cheers mate,

Haha not likely. I would need a LHD car for the R&D!!!! Soooo unless someone on here is rockin a LHD EF...

[~Sp33~]

Cheers mate,

Haha not likely. I would need a LHD car for the R&D!!!! Soooo unless someone on here is rockin a LHD EF...

http://help.solidworks.com/2012/English/SolidWorks/sldworks/doc1292868044179.image...

[markismaximus]

http://help.solidworks.com/2012/English/SolidWorks/sldworks/doc1292868044179.image...

lol, be clutching with your right foot...

[markismaximus]

A few people have contacted me chasing more info, so I've put together some reference info on firewall types to help people assess fitment. As obviously I don't have access to all the models which I believe the kit will fit.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/EFED/Installation%20Information_v1_150dpi_zpsgdmehqbv.j pg~original

[markismaximus]

First kit sold

[markismaximus]

cbauto, can't reply to your PM mate. Clear the spam out of your inbox

[cbauto]

kdone

[markismaximus]

2nd kit sold

[markismaximus]

3rd kit sold

[jdm_b16a]

You've been busy - good old Aussie ingenuity Mark.

Hope you are well, and this takes off for you.

When you are rich & famous we can say we knew you before you were [rich & famous]!

Cheers,

Peter

[markismaximus]

Hi Peter,

Gotta keep busy ya know.

I started reading your build thread on k20org. As expected, it is epic. Only got through the first 5 pages.

Haha, I don't know about either the rich or famous bit.

Are you attending WTAC this year? Shoot me a pm.

Cheers,

Mark


You've been busy - good old Aussie ingenuity Mark.

Hope you are well, and this takes off for you.

When you are rich & famous we can say we knew you before you were [rich & famous]!

Cheers,

Peter

[crx51]

Pm sent

[Strafer]

I have sent a pm as well, please check at your next convenience.

[markismaximus]

I have sent a pm as well, please check at your next convenience.

Cheers, PM responded to.

[YLD-H22]

will this be compatible with an 86 civic?

[markismaximus]

will this be compatible with an 86 civic?

No sorry, 88-91 model specific.

[markismaximus]

4th and 5th Kit Sold. Plan on making another batch next year. Happy holidays OH!

[B18CR-X Mike]

put me down for next "full kit" batch please! :)

[johana1013]

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[FF_warrior]

hi is there an estimated time frame for a 2016 batch? highly interested!

[henrygiang]

Definitely keen also mate. PM Sent

[vtecdohcter]

got the 5th & 6th. thanks Mark.

[blags]

Pm sent. Keen on full kit.

[markismaximus]

Enough parts and OEM bits are on order for another 10 kits. Pending life getting in the way I estimate first 2 kits will be ready in approx 3 weeks.

[henrygiang]

Enough parts and OEM bits are on order for another 10 kits. Pending life getting in the way I estimate first 2 kits will be ready in approx 3 weeks.
Hey mate, can I place my order for one? Thanks :)

[blags]

PM sent. Keen ASAP :)

[Hialeahzbg]

Enough parts and OEM bits are on order for another 10 kits. Pending life getting in the way I estimate first 2 kits will be ready in approx 3 weeks.


Ready to buy 2 kits! Shipped to Miami fl

[markismaximus]

Ready to buy 2 kits! Shipped to Miami fl

You and Andre are on the list!

[Hialeahzbg]

You and Andre are on the list!

awesome! looking forward to your piece!

[markismaximus]

6 kits allocated to following users:

1. blags (shipped)
2. dannymlad (shipped)
3. henrygiang
4. Hialeahzbg
5. Hialeahzbg
6. B18CR-X Mike

[u mad?]

What are these kits going for man? Good on you for taking the steps to make it all happen, if you did this on a lhd for the US market, you could make a fair bit of cash

[markismaximus]

What are these kits going for man? Good on you for taking the steps to make it all happen, if you did this on a lhd for the US market, you could make a fair bit of cash

Cheers, yeah there is obviously only so many RHD EFs still in existence.
LHD version would be cool, but near impossible to design without an actual car for the R&D. I also think it would be a lot harder to fit, because the CMC would be squashed between the firewall and the strut tower on LHD car

[markismaximus]

post #129 updated

[Hialeahzbg]

post #129 updated

Just got the update from Andre! I can't wait! I'll be ordering the s2k cmc tonight but which clutch line kit do we use for the k20?

[Hialeahzbg]

Do you have an Instagram account?

[markismaximus]

Just got the update from Andre! I can't wait! I'll be ordering the s2k cmc tonight but which clutch line kit do we use for the k20?

Best bet is to actually measure what line you need once everything is in the car and grab a -3AN Earl's Speed-Flex Line (http://www.jegs.com/p/Earls/Earls-Speed-Flex-Lines/749428/10002/-1)from Jegs or Summit and a suitable fittings (http://www.jegs.com/p/Earls/Earls-Brake-Fitting-Adapters/762945/10002/-1).

Or you can make up your own hard line and double flare the ends.


Do you have an Instagram account?

No sorry

[Hialeahzbg]

Does anyone know the length of the clutch line for a k20 swap? I wanna get everything ordered

[markismaximus]

Does anyone know the length of the clutch line for a k20 swap? I wanna get everything ordered

Easiest way to check is to use an old throttle cable or similar to measure on your actual car.

As a starting point off the firewall, the CMC line fitting sits about 3” to the right of the brake booster, and almost centered with the booster in height.

Earls 3AN Straight to Banjo Speed-Flex Lines only come in 16”, 18”, 24” and 36”, so you might need to use 3AN Straight to Straight Speed-Flex Lines as they have a lot more options for length.

[cbauto]

Does anyone care to write a review on this product?

[Hialeahzbg]

This thing is I still don't have the motor up on the crx yet as the rhd is in the process of being welded on so theres no way I can measure at this point.

[markismaximus]

Does anyone care to write a review on this product?

Yeah would be good to get some feedback.
Any improvements on the instructions required, ease of install (although dash stuff is never fun), quality of the kit met your expectations etc.


This thing is I still don't have the motor up on the crx yet as the rhd is in the process of being welded on so theres no way I can measure at this point.

Yeah right, that makes it a little more difficult. Considering you live in the US and have both Jegs and Summit at your door step, just wait till everything is installed.
Only way to be sure of the length required.

[chargeR]

Easiest way to check is to use an old throttle cable or similar to measure on your actual car.

As a starting point off the firewall, the CMC line fitting sits about 3” to the right of the brake booster, and almost centered with the booster in height.

Earls 3AN Straight to Banjo Speed-Flex Lines only come in 16”, 18”, 24” and 36”, so you might need to use 3AN Straight to Straight Speed-Flex Lines as they have a lot more options for length.


Does anyone know the length of the clutch line for a k20 swap? I wanna get everything ordered

I wouldn't waste my time with -3 adapters and such, I just had a custom length of braided hose made for my car (K24 in EF8 but with my own hydro clutch conversion) with the correct 10mm inverted flare on one end and 10mm banjo on the other to go on to the clutch slave.

[markismaximus]

I wouldn't waste my time with -3 adapters and such, I just had a custom length of braided hose made for my car (K24 in EF8 but with my own hydro clutch conversion) with the correct 10mm inverted flare on one end and 10mm banjo on the other to go on to the clutch slave.

If you don't mind sharing, what did that set you back? Guessing it was done by Enzed or Pirtek?

[chargeR]

If you don't mind sharing, what did that set you back? Guessing it was done by Enzed or Pirtek?

Couldn't say precisely, as I had the hose guy do some hoses for my electric-hydraulic power steering setup at the same time. Price for PS hoses + clutch hose was around $300, so I'd expect around $50-100 for the clutch hose by itself. Done by a local independent on-site automotive hose guy, he's a bit older and always seems to have the solution to a hose dilemma.

[grifty]

You can get a line made by Hel locally for $69 + postage, built to your specs.

http://www.helperformance.com.au/build-your-own/

you'd probably have to email them about the inverted flare tho as I dont see any listings online for it.

[markismaximus]

You can get a line made by Hel locally for $69 + postage, built to your specs.

http://www.helperformance.com.au/build-your-own/

you'd probably have to email them about the inverted flare tho as I dont see any listings online for it.

Nice find mate, that is pretty damn good

[carayan]

Cheers, yeah there is obviously only so many RHD EFs still in existence.
LHD version would be cool, but near impossible to design without an actual car for the R&D. I also think it would be a lot harder to fit, because the CMC would be squashed between the firewall and the strut tower on LHD car

put it out there

im sure there would definitely be interested people in the states, maybe they'll sponsor you, never know!

[Hialeahzbg]

Anyone have pics of the kit installed? How it looks in the engine bay and under the dash?

[markismaximus]

6 kits allocated to following users:

1. blags (shipped)
2. dannymlad (shipped)
3. henrygiang (picked up)
4. Hialeahzbg (shipped)
5. Hialeahzbg (shipped)
6. B18CR-X Mike
7. nighthawkblack

Update to list.

[Hialeahzbg]

Can't wait! Thanks again! Do you have any photos installed?

[Hialeahzbg]

Hey mark I have a question.. Do we have to use the s2k cmc or blox? Would a wilwood cmc work? Reason I ask if because I already have a wilwood brake master cylinder and the s2k/blox one would look completely different style..

[markismaximus]

Hey mark I have a question.. Do we have to use the s2k cmc or blox? Would a wilwood cmc work? Reason I ask if because I already have a wilwood brake master cylinder and the s2k/blox one would look completely different style..

The Blox CMC is a just an aftermarket replacement for the OEM part, so yes it will also work.

A Wilwood CMC won't work, if you have a look at them the bolt pattern is completely different and won't interface with the machined spacers.

Cheers

[markismaximus]

6 kits allocated to following users:

1. blags (shipped)
2. dannymlad (shipped)
3. henrygiang (picked up)
4. Hialeahzbg (shipped)
5. Hialeahzbg (shipped)
6. B18CR-X Mike
7. nighthawkblack
8. Vi

Update to list.

[Hialeahzbg]

Hey mark quick question.. Do I have the cut the bracket on the inside to install the pedal? I see a piece getting in the way of the golden bracket you sent me.. I don't see instructions

[markismaximus]

Hey mark quick question.. Do I have the cut the bracket on the inside to install the pedal? I see a piece getting in the way of the golden bracket you sent me.. I don't see instructions

Hey Hialeahzbg, I emailed the instructions to Andre a few weeks ago. If he hasn't provided them to you PM me your email and I'll send through a PDF.

Are you referring to the small hanger that the heater box bolts to? If you are, then yes, you need to trim a very small portion off the bottom (probably around 10mm). This is included in the instructions at Step 8.

Cheers,
Mark

[markismaximus]

Update to list, all gone!

1. blags (shipped)
2. dannymlad (shipped)
3. henrygiang (picked up)
4. Hialeahzbg (shipped)
5. Hialeahzbg (shipped)
6. B18CR-X Mike (shipped)
7. nighthawkblack (shipped)
8. Vi (picked up)
9. Nonterraquous (shipped)
10. RVD (shipped)

[drewr]

Hey man,
Are these going to become available again in the future? Or is it a special order only type thing?

[markismaximus]

Hey man,
Are these going to become available again in the future? Or is it a special order only type thing?

Yes they will be available again.

[jdm_b16a]

Well, here we are some time later Mark, and it looks like its going well for your kit.

I'm looking into [re]building my yellow DA9 into something resembling a Time Attack car with a K in it.

I think I read somewhere that your kit would be usable on the DA chassis?

Let me know,

Thanks

[and I'll be at WTAC2016 - it will be my 7th year at Pit Exit]

Peter

[markismaximus]

Hey Peter,

Unfortunately not suitable for the DA, the same principle could be applied but the different shapes in firewalls prevent my kit from being interchangeable.

Sounds cool either way, was always impressed at the rate at which you got onto the next project.

Good stuff on the 7th year at WTAC.

Cheers,
Mark

[EKVTIR-T]

Well, here we are some time later Mark, and it looks like its going well for your kit.

I'm looking into [re]building my yellow DA9 into something resembling a Time Attack car with a K in it.

I think I read somewhere that your kit would be usable on the DA chassis?

Let me know,

Thanks

[and I'll be at WTAC2016 - it will be my 7th year at Pit Exit]

PeterPretty sure k series are too tall for DA engine bay,you would need to keep the ride height higher and possibly aftermarket hood

[jdm_b16a]

Pretty sure k series are too tall for DA engine bay,you would need to keep the ride height higher and possibly aftermarket hood

It can be done with the new Hasport mounts that are a two-position mount. You use the lower position and everything fits.

Peter

[98whitemax]

Got any kits avalable

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[markismaximus]

4 kits in stock and more on the way