EP3R or DC2R

[Alexxual]

Hi everyone,

I'm new the forum and in the market for a Honda.

I can't get over the looks of a JDM front end DC2R in CW... however it's so very rare and the price is quite high for its age. What should I expect to pay for a <150000km example?

The EP3R seems like the more logical option but is considerably more expensive. From the research I've done, I'm a bit cautious when I see listings on Carsales 40xxxkms. The median price seems to be 18k, for a 2002, 80-100xxx km example.

What would you guys choose for a daily?

[Integra-GSi]

JDM front DC2Rs were never sold in Australia. Take that as it may, it's why its "rare" with note, that anyone who has done the swap has done it by swapping the guards from a Japanese car, probably a front cut. A DC2R in your KM range should be around the $12-$15k price range with some higher KM options dropping down to $10k.

An EP3 Civic Type R is a completely different beast though, and it crosses the line between when power assisted steering became the ducks guts and when cars actually had mechanical feedback through the steering. It depends, an EPR is going to be easier to live with, probably easier to drive around town, but the DC2R is going to be more fun in the long run due to the nature of when it was manufactured.

While a Civic Type R might handle well, its feedback through the steering will make it feel pedestrian. On the other hand you might be able to find a Civic or two that hasn't had such a hard life in comparison to an Integra Type R, particularly as the Type R is being taken up by younger car enthusiasts these days.

[Alexxual]

JDM front DC2Rs were never sold in Australia. Take that as it may, it's why its "rare" with note, that anyone who has done the swap has done it by swapping the guards from a Japanese car, probably a front cut. A DC2R in your KM range should be around the $12-$15k price range with some higher KM options dropping down to $10k.

An EP3 Civic Type R is a completely different beast though, and it crosses the line between when power assisted steering became the ducks guts and when cars actually had mechanical feedback through the steering. It depends, an EPR is going to be easier to live with, probably easier to drive around town, but the DC2R is going to be more fun in the long run due to the nature of when it was manufactured.

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I wouldn't mind doing the front end conversion myself, from the research people seem to budget $1500 for the parts incl. headlights etc. and respray. It just seems CW itself is hard to come by as well. I see there's a lot of yellow, red and few black ones on Carsales right now.

I appreciate the price range you gave me for the DC2R, what would you consider fair for an EP3 stock example?

Anyone else with input on things to look out for or common issues with either car would be welcomed. For example, bumper sagging I've read about on the DC2R.

Thank you.

[EKVTIR-T]

Dc2 so old now

[Alexxual]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8013/7553577912_e59878ebc4_b.jpg

but so niceeeeee

[Integra-GSi]

Dc2 so old now

That's the biggest concern and with the drop in price as well, it exposes it to a market audience the car was never intended for. Just like Peugeot hatchbacks really, you can't find a 306 GTi-6 now that hasn't been rooted within an inch of it's life due to it having been driven by some kid who doesn't give a stuff about cars.

[Vvvtec]

Ep3 more push me in seat feel on straight line

Dc2 more push out of seat around corner

[u mad?]

what about dc5r op, looks much better than ep3.

I own a dc2r, and i've driven an ep3r enough to know that dc2r much funner to drive, ep3 is better for daily, looks like a jazz.

depends what you want outa the car. Like others have said though, it would be much easier to find a good condition ep3 rather than a dc2r.

[Vvvtec]

Put ep3 engine in dc2r

Best combo honda ever

[EKVTIR-T]

K20 ek9 ultimate fwd honda

[u mad?]

ek gammin, look like girls car

[EKVTIR-T]

dc2 hairdressers

[u mad?]

lmao shiieeettttt

[Vvvtec]

If dc2 hairdresser what is s2k lmaooo

[integraR]

Dc2r and em1 only good if you work at McDonald's, s2k good for order food in McDonald's








































https://warosu.org/data/tg/img/0277/47/1381892430499.jpg

[curtis265]

If dc2 hairdresser what is s2k lmaooo

This is s2k
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jo7lJoQhtjw/Sc0tjw-kSRI/AAAAAAAAEvk/JFn-2Zg9Qgo/s400/penis+car+family+guy+WQ.jpg

[EKVTIR-T]

posts reported to aus2000

[Alexxual]

LOLL these posts made my day thanks rofl ;):D:wave:

edit: sers question -- could I acheive 150 kw atw NA with a budget of $5000 for EP3? (Assuming I bought it stock)

[EKVTIR-T]

Yesss

[Vvvtec]

LOLL these posts made my day thanks rofl ;):D:wave:

edit: sers question -- could I acheive 150 kw atw NA with a budget of $5000 for EP3? (Assuming I bought it stock)

For 5k you can aim for 170+ if you know how to spend your money

[Alexxual]

what about dc5r op, looks much better than ep3.

I own a dc2r, and i've driven an ep3r enough to know that dc2r much funner to drive, ep3 is better for daily, looks like a jazz.

depends what you want outa the car. Like others have said though, it would be much easier to find a good condition ep3 rather than a dc2r.

DC5R seems to be out of my price range (looking 16k max) and some say AUDM is not a real type r...

[Alexxual]

For 5k you can aim for 170+ if you know how to spend your money

Have there been builds on OZhonda that have achieved that on stock internals?

EDIT: if it's not too much to ask what would be your smart suggestions

[Vvvtec]

Thats average for a k20 with cams.

My stock k24 made over 150 with bolt ons, no cams.

[Alexxual]

Thats average for a k20 with cams.

My stock k24 made over 150 with bolt ons, no cams.

Ah yes I followed your DC5R build thread! You and a few others' builds peaked my interest in getting a Honda, so thanks :)

Interesting if k20 will be solidly reliable with cams for 170kwataw that's awesome. I'm not sure how it would be under $5000 tho, I/H/E + k-pro and cams... :S

Any particular brands that I should avoid or go for? Thanks Vvvtec

[Vvvtec]

K20a.org will answer everything for you

[Alexxual]

K20a.org will answer everything for you

Cheers, I'll look into it now.

[carayan]

ep3 if you like grabbing weird knobs

dc2 cause jdm

[Alexxual]

ep3 if you like grabbing weird knobs

dc2 cause jdm

DC2R in white, black, red or Yellow ?

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

If I was in your financial position I'd hold out for a K-swapped DC2 to come up and snatch it up.

Given the options presented, an EP3 may be in order. Nohomo.

[Alexxual]

YESS I would love a mint JDM CW DC2R K24... But I have a guy inspecting my car next week and can't be car-less so yea.. sorta need whatever is available now :(

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

But I have a guy inspecting my car next week and can't be car-less so yea.. sorta need whatever is available now :(

Good luck with it. Hehe car-less for days, feels like years. I wish you luck with your hunt but remember to be patient in your search, the one you want may hiding.

[Alexxual]

Good luck with it. Hehe car-less for days, feels like years. I wish you luck with your hunt but remember to be patient in your search, the one you want may hiding.

Cheers mang, I wouldn't mind owning a DC2R and in the future saving up for a Kswap. But from my calculations for a k24 swap even would cost like >$10 including labour, engine, tranny swap, fuel + lots other misc shit fk

[Integra-GSi]

K20 DC2 best combination, ultimate fast and light weight chassis.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Cheers mang. But from my calculations for a k24 swap even would cost like >$10 shit fk

You're welcome.
Kswap is many doll hairs and shipping is something else mang.
Would expect to spend the same if not more on a J-swap..


K20 DC2 best combination.

Intiiigraa fotehwin brew.
Almost converted me to part out the EK.

[Vvvtec]

K24 DC2 best combination, ultimate fast and light weight chassis.

Yiezz

[Alexxual]

Yiezz
Yesss haha, value for money

[EKVTIR-T]

dont join k20org

you'll get brainwashed

[Glocker]

Dc2r for me. Lighter and better suspension lay out. The fastest fwd around wakefield is a dc2 for a reason. The dc2r is already a classic.

[EKVTIR-T]

The fastest fwd around wakefield is a dc2 for a reason.nice man

who's dc2r is that?

[Alexxual]

nice man

who's dc2r is that?
BYP track car

[carayan]

BYP track car

oh yeah
never heard of them or this car.
any more info?

[mocchi]

K20 DC2 best combination, ultimate fast and light weight chassis.

dont be stupid.

dc4 b18b turbo will munch all vtec engines at the track.

[Alexxual]

i ended up getting an ep3, 10/10 feelz

[cbauto]

funner to drive.
WTF, are you really an abo?