View Full Version : Minimum mods for 150kw K20A EP3?
Alexxual
08-09-2014, 01:14 PM
Hi guys,
If everything goes well I will be picking up my first EP3 tonight. It will be completely stock.
From my research it seems that 150kw atw may be possible with stock cams, k-pro headers and exhaust.
Can I get away with keeping my stock intake?
What would be the power gains with just a k-pro and stock everything?
Ideally I want to have stock cams and have the min amount of engine mods to achieve this.
All useful input appreciated with approx costs! :wave:
stndrd
08-09-2014, 01:20 PM
To reach 150kw at the wheels you will need:
RBC intake manifold
70mm throttle body
Cold air intake
Headers
3in exhaust
Kpro/KTuner/Haltech etc
Even with this set up, to reach a genuine 150kw is a bit on the hard side (unless you are on a happy dyno).
Personally, I would also upgrade injectors, fuel rail & fuel pump for piece of mind
Alexxual
08-09-2014, 01:23 PM
To reach 150kw at the wheels you will need:
RBC intake manifold
70mm throttle body
Cold air intake
Headers
3in exhaust
Kpro/KTuner/Haltech etc
Personally, I would also upgrade injectors and fuel pump for piece of mind
For 3in exhaust would that be a custom job?
Any recommendations for partcular 70mm throttle body and headers? Are the headers going to be 3" as well?
Any need to port the RBC intake mani?
Edit: thank you btw
Vvvtec
09-09-2014, 03:37 PM
nice!
RenzokukenJ
09-09-2014, 03:45 PM
Go b20 lad pm cbauto for details
For 3in exhaust would that be a custom job?
Any recommendations for partcular 70mm throttle body and headers? Are the headers going to be 3" as well?
Any need to port the RBC intake mani?
Edit: thank you btw
Yes you need to port match the RBC or RRC intake manifold to 70mm throttle body
Also throttle body adaptor is needed
mocchi
09-09-2014, 08:19 PM
Go b20 lad pm cbauto for details
b20 in ep3
wat
stndrd
09-09-2014, 08:21 PM
Yes you need to port match the RBC or RRC intake manifold to 70mm throttle body
Also throttle body adaptor is needed
If you are using a Hybrid Racing throttle body, you will not need a throttle body adapter. Also port matching does not also help for transient throttle response
RenzokukenJ
09-09-2014, 09:00 PM
b20 in ep3
wat
Much better
lilthug
09-09-2014, 10:13 PM
If you are using a Hybrid Racing throttle body, you will not need a throttle body adapter. Also port matching does not also help for transient throttle response
this doesnt seem right
SHOGUNOVDDRK
09-09-2014, 10:18 PM
ep3r jdwap
Das it mane.
stndrd
10-09-2014, 09:37 AM
this doesnt seem right
Air speed vs volume
Port matching will decrease air speed but increase volume
Alexxual
10-09-2014, 09:44 AM
So should I bother with port matching or nah? What's the advantage of the hybrid racing tb it's nearly 500 bux. I found a S90 TB For half the price price on eBay what's everyone's thoughts on that brand?
stndrd
10-09-2014, 10:00 AM
We have used the S90, Skunk2 & Hybrid Racing throttle bodies.
S90 gives us too many issues with throttle plate sticking.
Have had a couple of Skunk2 where there is no inlet feed for coolant to the IACV.
Both of these throttle bodies also require a throttle body adapter.
Hybrid Racing you bolt up (as it has a multi bolt pattern) and off you go
u mad?
10-09-2014, 10:08 AM
So should I bother with port matching or nah? What's the advantage of the hybrid racing tb it's nearly 500 bux. I found a S90 TB For half the price price on eBay what's everyone's thoughts on that brand?
s90 is a piece of shit
take it from me, i used to have one.
Alexxual
10-09-2014, 11:59 AM
We have used the S90, Skunk2 & Hybrid Racing throttle bodies.
S90 gives us too many issues with throttle plate sticking.
Have had a couple of Skunk2 where there is no inlet feed for coolant to the IACV.
Both of these throttle bodies also require a throttle body adapter.
Hybrid Racing you bolt up (as it has a multi bolt pattern) and off you go
Okay awesome that's good to know you get what you pay for. Regarding PLM Headers, I've read that they are a copy thus the cheaper price. Are there any negative implications to using that particular brand in your experience?
s90 is a piece of shit
take it from me, i used to have one.
Okay haha steering well away from it ty
Vvvtec
10-09-2014, 12:01 PM
Hybrid Racing throttle body is the bee's knee's, I have one on my RRC
Alexxual
10-09-2014, 12:14 PM
Hybrid Racing throttle body is the bee's knee's, I have one on my RRC
Will it put a CEL if I install it without a tune?
Edit: eg can I put it in at home and drive safely to the tuners
Vvvtec
10-09-2014, 12:15 PM
can I put it in at home and drive safely to the tuners
yes you can
stndrd
10-09-2014, 12:44 PM
PLM are bang for buck headers. We havent had any quality issues with them
cbauto
10-09-2014, 03:04 PM
have you thought of k22 swap?
Alexxual
10-09-2014, 03:05 PM
have you thought of k22 swap?
My odo only says 60000kms so not interested in engine swaps atm. But out of curiosity what gains we talking
Edit: and costs?
stndrd
10-09-2014, 03:06 PM
K22 is a stroker engine using f22c crank, custom rods and pistons
RenzokukenJ
10-09-2014, 03:09 PM
K22 is a stroker engine using f22c crank, custom rods and pistons
How much am I looking
cbauto
10-09-2014, 03:12 PM
I've read that they are a copy thus the cheaper price. Are there any negative implications to using that particular brand in your experience?
you're asking someone who sells them, opinion will be biased
Alexxual
10-09-2014, 03:16 PM
K22 is a stroker engine using f22c crank, custom rods and pistons
Oh right cheers. Yeah I'm after just an oem build for now for max reliability, maybe rebuild internals down the track when I have more kms on there.
you're asking someone who sells them, opinion will be biased
What would be your opinion on alternative header choices? I am a fan of Toda but I heard Toda AU is out of business and only way to really source it is 2nd hand in AU?
cbauto
10-09-2014, 03:20 PM
What would be your opinion on alternative header choices? I am a fan of Toda but I heard Toda AU is out of business and only way to really source it is 2nd hand in AU?
PM this guy for BNIB toda parts
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/member.php?38463-Type-FN
Super-DA9
10-09-2014, 03:24 PM
K22 lose 5% over stock
cbauto
10-09-2014, 03:26 PM
K22 lose 5% over stock
m80, do you have any figures to back up ur farts?
Alexxual
10-09-2014, 03:26 PM
PM this guy for BNIB toda parts
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/member.php?38463-Type-FN
Champion, thanks. The toda headers is what is desired right? My understanding is they do make full exhausts as well but it won't be the 3" which is what I should be looking for custom made?
cbauto
10-09-2014, 03:28 PM
Champion, thanks. The toda headers is what is desired right? My understanding is they do make full exhausts as well but it won't be the 3" which is what I should be looking for custom made?
to my knowledge, there is no off the shelf 3" exhaust.
you wouldn't want 3 inch unless you have fullysick, fully forged, fully built motor anyway.
Super-DA9
10-09-2014, 03:38 PM
m80, do you have any figures to back up ur farts?
No m80 sorry but I'm pretty sure it was 5% according to extensive R&D
RenzokukenJ
10-09-2014, 03:44 PM
to my knowledge, there is no off the shelf 3" exhaust.
you wouldn't want 3 inch unless you have fullysick, fully forged, fully built motor anyway.
Ignore cbauto on this comment, he is still a little jaded since he found out about how fast k series was compared to b series
Alexxual
10-09-2014, 07:44 PM
I realised that all these race headers have no cats which is a cause for concern for me, since its my daily. so how often have people been done on ozhonda by the EPA for this?
cbauto
10-09-2014, 07:46 PM
I realised that all these race headers have no cats which is a cause for concern for me, since its my daily. so how often have people been done on ozhonda by the EPA for this?
buy a cat.
Vvvtec
11-09-2014, 11:56 AM
to my knowledge, there is no off the shelf 3" exhaust.
you wouldn't want 3 inch unless you have fullysick, fully forged, fully built motor anyway.
incorrect hehe
RenzokukenJ
11-09-2014, 12:03 PM
buy a cat.
Why not a dog?
Alexxual
11-09-2014, 12:30 PM
buy a cat.
I want to but I was on the TODA website and it said in bold red letters that "Racing purpose only (the catalyst can NOT be installed)". I'm confused now...
Why not a dog?
Got a dog, hate cats irl
cbauto
11-09-2014, 12:30 PM
Why not a dog?
how about a hotdog
cbauto
11-09-2014, 12:32 PM
I want to but I was on the TODA website and it said in bold red letters that "Racing purpose only (the catalyst can NOT be installed)". I'm confused now...
the law is written you're not meant to murder people. doesn't stop people though ....
Vvvtec
11-09-2014, 12:52 PM
I want to but I was on the TODA website and it said in bold red letters that "Racing purpose only (the catalyst can NOT be installed)". I'm confused now...
Got a dog, hate cats irl
Cat is installed when you have your exhaust fabbed up anyway, its not dependant on header
Vvvtec
11-09-2014, 12:55 PM
Also, have a look at one of these, if you can afford it hehe
www.advancedstreetperformance.com/store_header_civicsi_02_05.php
I have an ASP header on my K24 and im making over 150kw on an oem motor.
cbauto
11-09-2014, 01:01 PM
Toda better because jdm
Vvvtec
11-09-2014, 01:03 PM
Looool
Alexxual
11-09-2014, 01:04 PM
Vietnamese special dish mm
Super-DA9
11-09-2014, 01:05 PM
Toda better because jdm
Have u consider SPOON exhaust manifold with JDM catalyst?
SHOGUNOVDDRK
11-09-2014, 01:06 PM
Vietnamese special dish mm
Hehehehehehe
Alexxual
11-09-2014, 01:12 PM
Have u consider SPOON exhaust manifold with JDM catalyst?
Does it cost more than TODA and dyno proven?
Edit: how much of a real world difference in kw atw is PLM vs say 3x priced Toda header anyway .?
mocchi
11-09-2014, 01:48 PM
Does it cost more than TODA and dyno proven?
Edit: how much of a real world difference in kw atw is PLM vs say 3x priced Toda header anyway .?
why drive ep3 type r when toyota camry still takes you from A to B?
Alexxual
11-09-2014, 01:53 PM
why drive ep3 type r when toyota camry still takes you from A to B?
How's that relevant? I drive an ep3 not a Ferrari so I am still mindful of costs regarding aftermarket costs. No need to be cheeky moite
mocchi
11-09-2014, 01:59 PM
How's that relevant? I drive an ep3 not a Ferrari so I am still mindful of costs regarding aftermarket costs. No need to be cheeky moite
why buy toda when plm pretty much does the same thing
but you drive ep3 so..
hehe
Alexxual
11-09-2014, 02:05 PM
Yes yes I will go for the PLM when the time comes okay lol. Just wanted to get a feels of what's out there
cbauto
11-09-2014, 02:07 PM
Doesn't matter what you get. As long as it's made in Japan
mocchi
11-09-2014, 02:18 PM
nah buy toda. someone here was selling for 800
plm is abt 4-500. might as well buy toda for extra few hundies
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar39707_5.gif
Alexxual
11-09-2014, 02:20 PM
nah buy toda. someone here was selling for 800
plm is abt 4-500. might as well buy toda for extra few hundies
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar39707_5.gif
Was it for the ep3? I had a search on FS already but didn't see it. I'll create A WTB hopefully can get for 800
Edit: also saw a guy on FS selling kpro for 900, what's a good price
Doesn't matter what you get. As long as it's made in Japan
Do you know where PLM is manufactured?
cbauto
11-09-2014, 02:22 PM
Do you know where PLM is manufactured?
derkaderkastan
Super-DA9
11-09-2014, 02:44 PM
CBauto is TODA distributor. Biased opinion.
Nat srs pls don't hert me
carayan
11-09-2014, 06:45 PM
Yes yes I will go for the PLM when the time comes okay lol. Just wanted to get a feels of what's out there
have you considered FEELS for jdm goodness
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b162/dave_mirra/IMG_1474.jpg
Super-DA9
11-09-2014, 06:52 PM
have you considered FEELS for jdm goodness
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b162/dave_mirra/IMG_1474.jpg
I want Honda Twin Cam headers
for the FEELS
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar29948_16.gif
Alexxual
11-09-2014, 07:55 PM
Bahaha Yeah seen it it's a hilarious brand name lol
amant02
13-09-2014, 06:51 AM
I have no cat, 1st car. I was scared before.
My note in relation to illegal modding. While your young and stupid fcuks in the head, not to do. Cos when popo pull you over, you run ur mouth too much. Well this was my problem.
Now days, its always hi howz it going? Good Sir, Have any to drink today? No Sir, Count 1-10. 1,2,3,4, beeeep. He will walk around pass a few comments here and there. Keep your mouth shut and smile. End with Have a good day sir.
Yeh, before I was dumb dumb always picked a fight with the kunt. Always ended bad. Be nice keep it simple, 99% chance is he knows less about how car works then retard Americans on youtube saying super chargers are better then turbos.
RenzokukenJ
13-09-2014, 07:12 AM
I have no cat, 1st car. I was scared before.
My note in relation to illegal modding. While your young and stupid fcuks in the head, not to do. Cos when popo pull you over, you run ur mouth too much. Well this was my problem.
Now days, its always hi howz it going? Good Sir, Have any to drink today? No Sir, Count 1-10. 1,2,3,4, beeeep. He will walk around pass a few comments here and there. Keep your mouth shut and smile. End with Have a good day sir.
Yeh, before I was dumb dumb always picked a fight with the kunt. Always ended bad. Be nice keep it simple, 99% chance is he knows less about how car works then retard Americans on youtube saying super chargers are better then turbos.
Nice.
cbauto
13-09-2014, 10:06 AM
Potato gon potate
amant02
13-09-2014, 10:16 AM
Potato gon potate
potato gon stay potato
RenzokukenJ
13-09-2014, 11:36 PM
potato gon stay potato
Ok lad
DreadAngel
14-09-2014, 09:51 AM
I have no cat, 1st car. I was scared before.
My note in relation to illegal modding. While your young and stupid fcuks in the head, not to do. Cos when popo pull you over, you run ur mouth too much. Well this was my problem.
Now days, its always hi howz it going? Good Sir, Have any to drink today? No Sir, Count 1-10. 1,2,3,4, beeeep. He will walk around pass a few comments here and there. Keep your mouth shut and smile. End with Have a good day sir.
Yeh, before I was dumb dumb always picked a fight with the kunt. Always ended bad. Be nice keep it simple, 99% chance is he knows less about how car works then retard Americans on youtube saying super chargers are better then turbos.
You're not a P plater no more though right?
carayan
14-09-2014, 02:14 PM
btw the best way to hit 150atw
would be either this:
http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/685897/155585/bild-5458.jpg
or even this would be great
http://www.turbocivic.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/1292666519.jpg
amant02
14-09-2014, 10:09 PM
You're not a P plater no more though right?
Nop. Im still on me Greens. I have had my fair share of suspensions. 6 Months till I do one of crayans post.
btw the best way to hit 150atw
would be either this:
http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/685897/155585/bild-5458.jpg
or even this would be great
http://www.turbocivic.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/1292666519.jpg
Wrong this is how you make 180KW +.
Only 150KW can be done just with drop in cams, intake, exhaust and tune. Alot cheaper then a S/C Kit or Turbo Kit.
Super-DA9
15-09-2014, 09:29 AM
Wrong.
150kw only achievable through the use of quality JDM components.
SPOON ignition leads and MUGEN oil filter are the first step.
Wrong.
Alexxual
15-09-2014, 09:39 AM
And the coldest spark plugs I can buy amirite bro?
Super-DA9
15-09-2014, 09:46 AM
And the coldest spark plugs I can buy amirite bro?
Das it bro
You on the right track now
BKR99E-11 best
doosra
15-09-2014, 09:23 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/16/30c263d95ed56854b5208a2fb7d17e79.jpg
I got close to 146kw with just bolt on mods:
- PLM headers
- 100cel high flow cat
- Tegiwa exhaust
- Injen CAI
- Kpro v3
As you can see, I went for the generally inexpensive parts but very happy with the result.
Tuned by Dyno Dave at Insight Motor sports.
lilthug
15-09-2014, 09:27 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/15/0bce007c9b222e09592baeea01ccc6ec.jpg
I got close to 146kw with just bolt on mods:
- PLM headers
- 100cel high flow cat
- Tegiwa exhaust
- Injen CAI
- Kpro v3
As you can see, I went for the generally inexpensive parts but very happy with the result.
Tuned by Dyno Dave at Insight Motor sports.
dyno dave is back?
Alexxual
15-09-2014, 09:30 PM
Oh awesome thanks for putting up ur dyno sheet. Do you think you would've made more power with a 3" exhaust? I picked up a set of Toda headers this evening from Dr Honda who said anything less than 3" would be a waste of money. Got me thinking to get 3", only thing is noise I'm concerned about.. Don't like max death drone while I'm cruising since its my daily
doosra
15-09-2014, 09:31 PM
dyno dave is back?
Yeah, he's been back for about 12 months now.
doosra
15-09-2014, 10:12 PM
Oh awesome thanks for putting up ur dyno sheet. Do you think you would've made more power with a 3" exhaust? I picked up a set of Toda headers this evening from Dr Honda who said anything less than 3" would be a waste of money. Got me thinking to get 3", only thing is noise I'm concerned about.. Don't like max death drone while I'm cruising since its my daily
I really don't know much about the technical stuff so I'm not the person to ask.. I just know I wanted a kpro and tune :D
Alexxual
15-09-2014, 10:16 PM
I really don't know much about the technical stuff so I'm not the person to ask.. I just know I wanted a kpro and tune :D
That's cool, can you tell me the cost of the tune?
amant02
15-09-2014, 10:23 PM
Lol i thought you dont drop in spark plug ratting till your tuner tells you its needed.
Alexxual
15-09-2014, 10:23 PM
Lol i thought you dont drop in spark plug ratting till your tuner tells you its needed.
I was just kidding lol
doosra
15-09-2014, 10:23 PM
Just responded to your message
Super-DA9
15-09-2014, 10:33 PM
Lol i thought you dont drop in spark plug ratting till your tuner tells you its needed.
M80
M80
M8
BKR99E-11 doesn't care what the tuner thinks okay
it just goes in with high quality SPOON leads and make big power
Trust me I'm a guy on the internet
amant02
15-09-2014, 10:40 PM
M80
M80
M8
BKR99E-11 doesn't care what the tuner thinks okay
it just goes in with high quality SPOON leads and make big power
Trust me I'm a guy on the internet
Hey Internet Guy, you should be telling people to get BKR8EIX.
Cos das wat i run to make big power from my OEM ecu.
Truestory, not even jking.
Super-DA9
16-09-2014, 09:14 AM
Hey Internet Guy, you should be telling people to get BKR8EIX.
Cos das wat i run to make big power from my OEM ecu.
Truestory, not even jking.
No
5char
RenzokukenJ
16-09-2014, 12:40 PM
Ok
5char
cbauto
16-09-2014, 12:51 PM
do you guise have to spam so much?
RenzokukenJ
16-09-2014, 01:34 PM
do you guise have to spam so much?
Sorry
Stevil
16-09-2014, 08:19 PM
Alexxual sounds like he wants to sell you a 3 inch exhaust ! 2.5inch system will be fine, would you make more power with the mods mentioned and 3 inch ? probably not
RenzokukenJ
17-09-2014, 12:19 AM
Alexxual sounds like he wants to sell you a 3 inch exhaust ! 2.5inch system will be fine, would you make more power with the mods mentioned and 3 inch ? probably not
How the fuk would you know? You own a economic engine with a hair dryer which has blown 3 times from being tuned by 2 potatoes.
I wouldn't take anything you say into consideration.
DreadAngel
17-09-2014, 12:20 AM
Alexxual sounds like he wants to sell you a 3 inch exhaust ! 2.5inch system will be fine, would you make more power with the mods mentioned and 3 inch ? probably not
Incorrect, you do make more power with 3" on the K20A on average...
amant02
17-09-2014, 05:48 AM
How the fuk would you know? You own a economic engine with a hair dryer which has blown 3 times from being tuned by 2 potatoes.
I wouldn't take anything you say into consideration.
Whoa so moody today. You choose an economic engine over s2k, enough said. ;)
@ Stevil, mate 3" is proven for K series. Long known.
Stevil
17-09-2014, 06:09 AM
Renzo I love how you slip into full retard mode at the drop of a hat, thanks for the laugh !
amant02
17-09-2014, 07:26 AM
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRz3VqsuZiZNfrHGcRktoll1od2kF10v GpdonmIR5syy4pTrfsc
Stevil
17-09-2014, 08:01 AM
Renzo your a great reminder of why we shouldnt believe everything written the net ! and quit Lying, i didnt blow 3 hairdryer engines ? it was 1, another 1 the bearings wore out after 125k and 20+ trackdays.
its apparent to me that there is little correlation between what you write on Ozhonda and your own experiences ! if you spent less time in front of Screen and did shit you might be credible. Just say.....
look forward to your posting Your before and after Dyno sheets when YOU upgraded from 2.5 to 3inches ?
Fact is the zoorst is the engine of the line, does it add fuel, increase airflow to the motor, advance timing, No and unless your boosting a 3inch a will do bugga all unless you have a small restrictive system to start with. Now before you go off on a rant about potato's i like to deal in facts, so go on Numpty give your experiences. I hope I dont have to wait too long.......
I hope you seek help because I know you mean well thinking your helpful and all, but really your just a dumb twat.
cbauto
17-09-2014, 08:08 AM
Renzo your a great reminder of why we shouldnt believe everything written the net ! and quit Lying, i didnt blow 3 hairdryer engines ? it was 1, another 1 the bearings wore out after 125k and 20+ trackdays.
its apparent to me that there is little correlation between what you write on Ozhonda and your own experiences ! if you spent less time in front of Screen and did shit you might be credible. Just say.....
look forward to your posting Your before and after Dyno sheets when YOU upgraded from 2.5 to 3inches ?
Fact is the zoorst is the engine of the line, does it add fuel, increase airflow to the motor, advance timing, No and unless your boosting a 3inch a will do bugga all unless you have a small restrictive system to start with. Now before you go off on a rant about potato's i like to deal in facts, so go on Numpty give your experiences. I hope I dont have to wait too long.......
I hope you seek help because I know you mean well thinking your helpful and all, but really your just a dumb twat.
Sounds like ur mud
amant02
17-09-2014, 08:18 AM
Fact is the zoorst is the engine of the line, does it add fuel, increase airflow to the motor, advance timing, No and unless your boosting a 3inch a will do bugga all unless you have a small restrictive system to start with. Now before you go off on a rant about potato's i like to deal in facts, so go on Numpty give your experiences.
Im pretty close 100% sure 3in is dyno proven.
If built properly say someone like me in backyard see really good gains. Promise atleast +23 KW atw.
Stevil
17-09-2014, 08:18 AM
cbauto wtf is mud ? r u kiwi lol
Renzo is a serial shittalker, he wouldnt know shit from clay !
Super-DA9
17-09-2014, 08:22 AM
Incorrect, you do make more power with 3" on the K20A on average...
Yes
Whoa so moody today. You choose an economic engine over s2k, enough said. ;)
No
Renzo I love how you slip into full retard mode at the drop of a hat, thanks for the laugh !
No
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRz3VqsuZiZNfrHGcRktoll1od2kF10v GpdonmIR5syy4pTrfsc
No
Renzo your a great reminder of why we shouldnt believe everything written the net ! and quit Lying, i didnt blow 3 hairdryer engines ? it was 1, another 1 the bearings wore out after 125k and 20+ trackdays.
its apparent to me that there is little correlation between what you write on Ozhonda and your own experiences ! if you spent less time in front of Screen and did shit you might be credible. Just say.....
look forward to your posting Your before and after Dyno sheets when YOU upgraded from 2.5 to 3inches ?
Fact is the zoorst is the engine of the line, does it add fuel, increase airflow to the motor, advance timing, No and unless your boosting a 3inch a will do bugga all unless you have a small restrictive system to start with. Now before you go off on a rant about potato's i like to deal in facts, so go on Numpty give your experiences. I hope I dont have to wait too long.......
I hope you seek help because I know you mean well thinking your helpful and all, but really your just a dumb twat.
Lol
Sounds like ur mud
Yes
Stevil
17-09-2014, 08:28 AM
amant02 I had a K20 with bolt ons 2.5inch zoorts, 148kw, a change to a better intake woulda given me 150 easily. I still have the same 2.5inch zoorst right now and my K series makes 184kw now. Will I go to 3 inch ? Yes cause I plan on boosting down the track. Im just suggesting that from my experiences if you have limited $$$$, that upgrading to 3 inches isnt necessarily the best way to go.
Now Ive had a 2.5inch system on my R18 when it was turbo'd and E85 (147kw and briefly around 180kw's) it didnt need a 3 inch system either.
Stevil
17-09-2014, 08:31 AM
Super DA9 want a coffee to go with that donut ? lol
amant02
17-09-2014, 08:34 AM
amant02 I had a K20 with bolt ons 2.5inch zoorts, 148kw, a change to a better intake woulda given me 150 easily. I still have the same 2.5inch zoorst right now and my K series makes 184kw now. Will I go to 3 inch ? Yes cause I plan on boosting down the track. Im just suggesting that from my experiences if you have limited $$$$, that upgrading to 3 inches isnt necessarily the best way to go.
Now Ive had a 2.5inch system on my R18 when it was turbo'd and E85 (147kw and briefly around 180kw's) it didnt need a 3 inch system either.
My advise from doing up car, and having made this mistake in the past.
Do it once do it right.
Stevil
17-09-2014, 08:35 AM
whats your ultimate goal powerwise amant02 ?
RenzokukenJ
17-09-2014, 08:37 AM
Whoa so moody today. You choose an economic engine over s2k, enough said. ;)
@ Stevil, mate 3" is proven for K series. Long known.
Wot
I haven't chosen anything over anything
Renzo I love how you slip into full retard mode at the drop of a hat, thanks for the laugh !
Nice
Renzo your a great reminder of why we shouldnt believe everything written the net ! and quit Lying, i didnt blow 3 hairdryer engines ? it was 1, another 1 the bearings wore out after 125k and 20+ trackdays.
its apparent to me that there is little correlation between what you write on Ozhonda and your own experiences ! if you spent less time in front of Screen and did shit you might be credible. Just say.....
look forward to your posting Your before and after Dyno sheets when YOU upgraded from 2.5 to 3inches ?
Fact is the zoorst is the engine of the line, does it add fuel, increase airflow to the motor, advance timing, No and unless your boosting a 3inch a will do bugga all unless you have a small restrictive system to start with. Now before you go off on a rant about potato's i like to deal in facts, so go on Numpty give your experiences. I hope I dont have to wait too long.......
I hope you seek help because I know you mean well thinking your helpful and all, but really your just a dumb twat.
Tldr
Point is, you blew x amount of engines, got tuned by potatoes, backed up potatoes during shit storm, ect ect
And you say I'm full retard? Nice
Im pretty close 100% sure 3in is dyno proven.
If built properly say someone like me in backyard see really good gains. Promise atleast +23 KW atw.
Wait
So you said before its not proven
Now you say it is
Wow
cbauto wtf is mud ? r u kiwi lol
Renzo is a serial shittalker, he wouldnt know shit from clay !
Ok
Yes
No
No
No
Lol
Yes
Yh
amant02 I had a K20 with bolt ons 2.5inch zoorts, 148kw, a change to a better intake woulda given me 150 easily. I still have the same 2.5inch zoorst right now and my K series makes 184kw now. Will I go to 3 inch ? Yes cause I plan on boosting down the track. Im just suggesting that from my experiences if you have limited $$$$, that upgrading to 3 inches isnt necessarily the best way to go.
Now Ive had a 2.5inch system on my R18 when it was turbo'd and E85 (147kw and briefly around 180kw's) it didnt need a 3 inch system either.
And this is why you are an idiot
Super DA9 want a coffee to go with that donut ? lol
Ok
Vvvtec
17-09-2014, 08:38 AM
3" will make more peak power on a k motor
amant02
17-09-2014, 08:39 AM
Ultimate? Even if I dont money for it?
Oh my letme start.
K24a3
Supertech Forge Pistons
BC Lighter Rods
ACL Race bearings
Mod S2k oil pump
New Water pump
K24 Conversion kit
BC Stage 2 Cams
Injectors
Fuel pump
Thrust Bearings
All new engine seals.
Sure i may have forgetten few things.
If i dont make close to 220Kw. ill neck myself.
Vvvtec
17-09-2014, 08:42 AM
220 no way lol
Super-DA9
17-09-2014, 08:43 AM
Super DA9 want a coffee to go with that donut ? lol
If ur srs PM me I would like this free coffee with donut purchase
RenzokukenJ
17-09-2014, 08:44 AM
Read tbm's build.
Read Vvvtec's build.
Read all the k swap builds on k swap sites.
You will understand
mocchi
17-09-2014, 08:49 AM
Ultimate? Even if I dont money for it?
Oh my letme start.
K24a3
Supertech Forge Pistons
BC Lighter Rods
ACL Race bearings
Mod S2k oil pump
New Water pump
K24 Conversion kit
BC Stage 2 Cams
Injectors
Fuel pump
Thrust Bearings
All new engine seals.
Sure i may have forgetten few things.
If i dont make close to 220BW. ill neck myself.
fixed
cbauto
17-09-2014, 08:57 AM
Just nek urself anyway amant
Stevil
17-09-2014, 09:05 AM
massive fails Renzo ! haha ya got nuthin, do you have pubes yet ?
cbauto
17-09-2014, 09:05 AM
cbauto wtf is mud ? r u kiwi lol
Renzo is a serial shittalker, he wouldnt know shit from clay !
Are you wasist???
at least renzo can see the light from all the bad stigma that potato tuna potate.
Super-DA9
17-09-2014, 09:10 AM
massive fails Renzo ! haha ya got nuthin, do you have pubes yet ?
Wut
Y do u wanna know if he has pubes
amant02
17-09-2014, 09:21 AM
220 no way lol
Even on a happy dyno? aww.
Super-DA9
17-09-2014, 09:25 AM
Even on a happy dyno? aww.
You'd need some pretty wild cams, compression ratio and fueling to get close to that NA. Or a turbo/supercharger lal.
Or just go to BYP dyno and tell them you want 220kw lmzo
amant02
17-09-2014, 09:28 AM
I knew turbo was the only way to look.
Stevil
17-09-2014, 09:33 AM
Im suggesting he loves regurgitating others peoples experiences but has none himself, makes up alot of shit ! Renzo dont you know ? you should never go full retard !!
amant02
17-09-2014, 09:38 AM
Im suggesting he loves regurgitating others peoples experiences but has none himself, makes up alot of shit ! Renzo dont you know ? you should never go full retard !!
Arent you doing same thing?
Super-DA9
17-09-2014, 09:55 AM
OoOoOoooOoOoOo shhhhhhiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeettttt
Stevil
17-09-2014, 10:07 AM
Yeah but I do it at the track, Renzo does it in a dark room by himself B-)
RenzokukenJ
17-09-2014, 10:13 AM
massive fails Renzo ! haha ya got nuthin, do you have pubes yet ?
Resulting to personal insults? A good indicator of when someone knows they are defeated or know they are in the wrong.
Im suggesting he loves regurgitating others peoples experiences but has none himself, makes up alot of shit ! Renzo dont you know ? you should never go full retard !!
Lmzo not making up shit, relaying proper information that has been covered multiple times.
Stevil
17-09-2014, 10:17 AM
like I said Renzo you tried to make up shit about my experiencess, I asked for your k series exhaust exp and you offered none, so yeah your a comfirmed shit talker, back to your bedroom mushroom !
Stevil
17-09-2014, 10:19 AM
resorting to insults is desert, after all you failed to cook the main !
RenzokukenJ
17-09-2014, 10:29 AM
like I said Renzo you tried to make up shit about my experiencess, I asked for your k series exhaust exp and you offered none, so yeah your a comfirmed shit talker, back to your bedroom mushroom !
Nice, you didn't ask me anything lad, otherwise I, as anyone else would, would have told you 3" at least.
You can throw around the word shit talker and insult me all you like, but the point here is that you are misinforming people who potentionally read your posts in later dates, which I am now correcting and you are getting upset at.
If you want to talk shit you are more than welcome, but talk shit in spam thread not here.
resorting to insults is desert, after all you failed to cook the main !
What I want you to do stevil, so go consume about 2 cans of alphabet spaghetti, and eat them both. Now run over to either a cleared spot, or toilet bowl. Then, shit out what you just consumed. Swirl around the spaghetti in any form of swirling you choose. Now take a good look at what you have created, because it will make more sense than what you have posted.
Super-DA9
17-09-2014, 10:30 AM
Good info hear guise
Now I know how to make 150kw
Stevil you never PM'd me about that coffee and donut :'(
u mad?
17-09-2014, 10:44 AM
So what i have gathered from this thread
eat spaghetti : make 150kw
amant02
17-09-2014, 10:46 AM
also amants dreams of 220kw has been shattered here.
RenzokukenJ
17-09-2014, 10:54 AM
So what i have gathered from this thread
eat spaghetti : make 150kw
Get swole
also amants dreams of 220kw has been shattered here.
420kw namsayin
amant02
17-09-2014, 11:04 AM
Cmon stevil dont give up!!
Im staying up just for this thread and dota.
SHOGUNOVDDRK
17-09-2014, 11:15 AM
Super DA9 want a coffee to go with that donut ? lol
Can I watch him punch the donut for you? Hehe
So what i have gathered from this thread
eat spaghetti : make 150kw
So what I have gathered from this thread
Eat spamghetti: make 150kw
cbauto
17-09-2014, 11:22 AM
A+++++
carayan
17-09-2014, 11:44 AM
ok for alexxxual or w/e and who ever needs info here are some good links, cause someone is gonna read stevils shit one day.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?92451-k20-2.5-quot-or-3-quot-exhaust!!/page2
quotes from thread
man im running k24/k20 and im running a 3inch and makes sweet power all the way through..
who ever tells you to go 2.5 on a k is kinda crazy.. anyways 3 is the way..
3 inch all the way.
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=46317
After a couple months of running around at the 211whp/152wtq power level in my K20A2-swapped coupe, I decided it was time to change something and get a little more pep from her.
So, a friend of mine who had just recently gotten rid of his turbo EM1 offered me his Thermal 3" exhaust at a very reasonable rate.
The results speak for themselves, the 3" exhaust made more power EVERYWHERE compared to the 2.5" ID exhaust that was previously on the car.
The solid line is the 3", the dotted line is the 2.5" exhaust.
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/soundinnovations/drob3inch.jpg
thats just the first two links off a google search. check yourself before you wreck yourself stevil
Vvvtec
17-09-2014, 11:47 AM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to carayan again.
RenzokukenJ
17-09-2014, 11:48 AM
ok for alexxxual or w/e and who ever needs info here are some good links, cause someone is gonna read stevils shit one day.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?92451-k20-2.5-quot-or-3-quot-exhaust!!/page2
quotes from thread
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=46317
thats just the first two links off a google search. check yourself before you wreck yourself stevil
Thanks mun
Super-DA9
17-09-2014, 11:53 AM
Carayan droppin' bombs
Feel my BBC
Alexxual
17-09-2014, 12:08 PM
You guys seriously make my day lol
So I called up Toys Garage yesterday and am booked in for exhaust to be done 3 October 2014. It was 1000 for 2.5" cat back, extra 100 for 3". I'm gonna go with the biggest mild steel oval muffler as I can to reduce the noise to bearable levels as well as a hot dog resonator in there. Oh and 3" 100 cel cat to keep it "legal" lolz
Fingers crossed the noise won't be too annoying. The tuner himself confirmed that 3" would make more power but noise is a concern. I appresh everyone's input so far. Will post video of it when done. Ty xx
Vvvtec
17-09-2014, 12:11 PM
Make sure you add in a good resonator in there too
Alexxual
17-09-2014, 12:12 PM
Make sure you add in a good resonator in there too
yeah the guy said he's putting in a hot dog as well, which i hope means it will be a good res
mocchi
17-09-2014, 12:12 PM
You guys seriously make my day lol
So I called up Toys Garage yesterday and am booked in for exhaust to be done 3 October 2014. It was 1000 for 2.5" cat back, extra 100 for 3". I'm gonna go with the biggest mild steel oval muffler as I can to reduce the noise to bearable levels as well as a hot dog resonator in there. Oh and 3" 100 cel cat to keep it "legal" lolz
Fingers crossed the noise won't be too annoying. The tuner himself confirmed that 3" would make more power but noise is a concern. I appresh everyone's input so far. Will post video of it when done. Ty xx
1k for mildsteel? cot daym ballin
u mad?
17-09-2014, 12:14 PM
less rasp
paint it black so no ugly rust color
carayan
17-09-2014, 12:19 PM
Yeh mild steel audm
V8
Stainless jdm
Shitty 4 cyl
Mild steel therefore is best
RenzokukenJ
17-09-2014, 12:23 PM
You guys seriously make my day lol
So I called up Toys Garage yesterday and am booked in for exhaust to be done 3 October 2014. It was 1000 for 2.5" cat back, extra 100 for 3". I'm gonna go with the biggest mild steel oval muffler as I can to reduce the noise to bearable levels as well as a hot dog resonator in there. Oh and 3" 100 cel cat to keep it "legal" lolz
Fingers crossed the noise won't be too annoying. The tuner himself confirmed that 3" would make more power but noise is a concern. I appresh everyone's input so far. Will post video of it when done. Ty xx
Just get 3" with 1 or 2 resonators, that will really quieten it down a lot through the low rev range
cbauto
17-09-2014, 12:23 PM
fark.
1k
mocchi
17-09-2014, 12:26 PM
fark.
1k
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar39707_5.gif
Alexxual
17-09-2014, 12:27 PM
1k for mildsteel? cot daym ballin
sorry, I meant the 3" piping and cat is stainless steel only the muffler is mild
edit: i did ask for stainless steel muffler too but the guy said that if I wanted the biggest quietest muffler they only come in mild steel to fit the ep3
Killa From Manila
17-09-2014, 09:03 PM
if you want quality and a decently quiet 3" exhaust i recommend vibrant muffer and ultra quiet resonator. i have it on my kswap, sounds awesome and isnt too loud.
oh and btw my car
155kw - 104mph BYP tune
147kw - 109mph definition motorsport tune
so meh fk dyno numbers
Vvvtec
17-09-2014, 09:17 PM
Das it mayne ^^
amant02
17-09-2014, 10:00 PM
Bro for 1k ill weld you a custom header and exhaust for your ep3.
Like others have said 1k for a cat and cat back. Rip specially mild steel.
Alex what you doing on Friday?
I wanna go see hak to see what he can do for me.
curtis265
17-09-2014, 10:01 PM
wtf $1k ?
Vvvtec
17-09-2014, 10:36 PM
Why are you guys shocked? lol
That's what stainless mandrel bent + components + labour costs
amant02
17-09-2014, 10:38 PM
Why are you guys shocked? lol
That's what stainless mandrel bent + components + labour costs
Cos its Mild Steel.
Vvvtec
17-09-2014, 10:44 PM
Cos its Mild Steel.
only the muffler is mild ffs learn to read
amant02
17-09-2014, 10:49 PM
oh.
still 1k on exhaust and its not even JDM.
Vvvtec
17-09-2014, 10:50 PM
oh.
still 1k on exhaust and its not even JDM.
lol the fuk
mocchi
17-09-2014, 10:53 PM
taters tatin
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar30053_101.gif
DreadAngel
18-09-2014, 06:52 AM
Renzo your a great reminder of why we shouldnt believe everything written the net ! and quit Lying, i didnt blow 3 hairdryer engines ? it was 1, another 1 the bearings wore out after 125k and 20+ trackdays.
its apparent to me that there is little correlation between what you write on Ozhonda and your own experiences ! if you spent less time in front of Screen and did shit you might be credible. Just say.....
look forward to your posting Your before and after Dyno sheets when YOU upgraded from 2.5 to 3inches ?
Fact is the zoorst is the engine of the line, does it add fuel, increase airflow to the motor, advance timing, No and unless your boosting a 3inch a will do bugga all unless you have a small restrictive system to start with. Now before you go off on a rant about potato's i like to deal in facts, so go on Numpty give your experiences. I hope I dont have to wait too long.......
I hope you seek help because I know you mean well thinking your helpful and all, but really your just a dumb twat.
Since you want to lay into me and say I'm BSin' you...
Check google if you don't believe me...
Im pretty close 100% sure 3in is dyno proven.
If built properly say someone like me in backyard see really good gains. Promise atleast +23 KW atw.
See above...
amant02 I had a K20 with bolt ons 2.5inch zoorts, 148kw, a change to a better intake woulda given me 150 easily. I still have the same 2.5inch zoorst right now and my K series makes 184kw now. Will I go to 3 inch ? Yes cause I plan on boosting down the track. Im just suggesting that from my experiences if you have limited $$$$, that upgrading to 3 inches isnt necessarily the best way to go.
Now Ive had a 2.5inch system on my R18 when it was turbo'd and E85 (147kw and briefly around 180kw's) it didnt need a 3 inch system either.
Do it once and do it right, for anyone I work with on their K20A, I recommend 3" after seeing the results first hand, the losses can be compensated/worked around.
Won't comment on your other setup, only worked on the K20A in this discussion.
NB: Carayvan beat me to it lolz
Stevil
18-09-2014, 07:16 AM
most of you fella's are missing my point but thats what the internets for ! Fact is if you already have a 2.5 system, throw on the right mix of Bolts on and 150kws is achievable. But hey go blow $1100 on a 3inch heavy mild steel exhaust, for phuck sake Id rather spend a little more and go Titanium !
Stevil
18-09-2014, 07:20 AM
Carayan nice comparison chart but unless your comparing like against like, whats the point ? did they have the same cat and resonators ? unlikely.
Alexxual
18-09-2014, 07:38 AM
The system I have now is stock
amant02
18-09-2014, 07:47 AM
most of you fella's are missing my point but thats what the internets for ! Fact is if you already have a 2.5 system, throw on the right mix of Bolts on and 150kws is achievable. But hey go blow $1100 on a 3inch heavy mild steel exhaust, for phuck sake Id rather spend a little more and go Titanium !
The system I have now is stock
GG, Shit fight over.
cbauto
18-09-2014, 08:25 AM
GG, Shit fight over.
go forth pawn
Super-DA9
18-09-2014, 09:29 AM
oh.
still 1k on exhaust and its not even JDM.
LMZO
Bot is that you
Alexxual
18-09-2014, 09:31 AM
I have come to terms with the fact that 80% of ozHonda posts are troll -_-
Super-DA9
18-09-2014, 09:33 AM
But hey go blow $1100 on a 3inch heavy mild steel exhaust, for phuck sake Id rather spend a little more and go Titanium !
Lol it's only the muffler that's mild steel, the rest stainless. Been pointed out twice m80
PM sent regarding coffee and donut
RenzokukenJ
18-09-2014, 10:03 AM
most of you fella's are missing my point but thats what the internets for ! Fact is if you already have a 2.5 system, throw on the right mix of Bolts on and 150kws is achievable. But hey go blow $1100 on a 3inch heavy mild steel exhaust, for phuck sake Id rather spend a little more and go Titanium !
See below lad
What I want you to do stevil, so go consume about 2 cans of alphabet spaghetti, and eat them both. Now run over to either a cleared spot, or toilet bowl. Then, shit out what you just consumed. Swirl around the spaghetti in any form of swirling you choose. Now take a good look at what you have created, because it will make more sense than what you have posted.
Carayan nice comparison chart but unless your comparing like against like, whats the point ? did they have the same cat and resonators ? unlikely.
Nice
You idiot
I have come to terms with the fact that 80% of ozHonda posts are troll -_-
Actually 80% of ozhonda posts consist of people correcting people like stevil who give out incorrect information and believe shit from shitty tuners and relay that to other people.
Stevil
18-09-2014, 10:15 AM
Renzo who turned the light on !! lol you havent corrected shit ( Face Palm icon needed here )
Plenty of K series rollin 150kw + with 2.5inches, you just dont get it do ya ! Just go end enjoy whatever shit you want haha
amant02
18-09-2014, 10:16 AM
oh yizz,
round 2.
Fight!
amant02
18-09-2014, 10:17 AM
Brb getting maccas, wait for me!
RenzokukenJ
18-09-2014, 10:38 AM
Renzo who turned the light on !! lol you havent corrected shit ( Face Palm icon needed here )
Plenty of K series rollin 150kw + with 2.5inches, you just dont get it do ya ! Just go end enjoy whatever shit you want haha
Maybe they should change to 3" to remove restrictions.
Nice
oh yizz,
round 2.
Fight!
Brb getting maccas, wait for me!
Reporting for spam
carayan
18-09-2014, 01:24 PM
most of you fella's are missing my point but thats what the internets for ! Fact is if you already have a 2.5 system, throw on the right mix of Bolts on and 150kws is achievable. But hey go blow $1100 on a 3inch heavy mild steel exhaust, for phuck sake Id rather spend a little more and go Titanium !
Carayan nice comparison chart but unless your comparing like against like, whats the point ? did they have the same cat and resonators ? unlikely.
Renzo who turned the light on !! lol you havent corrected shit ( Face Palm icon needed here )
Plenty of K series rollin 150kw + with 2.5inches, you just dont get it do ya ! Just go end enjoy whatever shit you want haha
yes stevil mate you're 100% right you can use 2.5inches and make power.
but it has been proven time and time again 3 inch is infinitely better and you'd be stupid to go 2.5 inch over 3 inch.. and you also forget that question that been asked was:
Oh awesome thanks for putting up ur dyno sheet. Do you think you would've made more power with a 3" exhaust? I picked up a set of Toda headers this evening from Dr Honda who said anything less than 3" would be a waste of money. Got me thinking to get 3", only thing is noise I'm concerned about.. Don't like max death drone while I'm cruising since its my daily
The system I have now is stock
this advice coming from a man in the scene who KNOWS what he's talking about. who has built multiple mental ks, not just slapped a rotrex onto a stock blocked motor, did a power run on the dyno, blew it up then started again.
not only that, but you are clutching at bloody straws saying just because the cat and reso aren't the same therefore the dyno results aren't valid. at most you can account for maybe 2-3kw by having a different cat and reso, but otherwise the results speak for themselves. not only that actually, but both runs (in the dyno graph) were done without a cat ('merica) so there's one variable you dont have. even less straws for you to clutch at.
mocchi
18-09-2014, 01:47 PM
amant02 I had a K20 with bolt ons 2.5inch zoorts, 148kw, a change to a better intake woulda given me 150 easily. I still have the same 2.5inch zoorst right now and my K series makes 184kw now. Will I go to 3 inch ? Yes cause I plan on boosting down the track. Im just suggesting that from my experiences if you have limited $$$$, that upgrading to 3 inches isnt necessarily the best way to go.
Now Ive had a 2.5inch system on my R18 when it was turbo'd and E85 (147kw and briefly around 180kw's) it didnt need a 3 inch system either.
your k series makes 184kw na?
byp tuned it?
that makes it 184bw
1bw = 0.7kw
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 01:50 PM
your k series makes 184kw na?
byp tuned it?
that makes it 184bw
1bw = 0.7kw
I did the math and actually laughed out loud
fukn lol oscar you cheeky fuk
cbauto
18-09-2014, 02:06 PM
The gift that keeps on giving
Lmfao
RenzokukenJ
18-09-2014, 02:23 PM
Hahahahahahahaha
Super-DA9
18-09-2014, 02:40 PM
Shiiieeettt carayan nails it again
http://i.imgur.com/VQLGJOL.gif
This thread just keeps on delivering
carayan
18-09-2014, 02:49 PM
your k series makes 184kw na?
byp tuned it?
that makes it 184bw
1bw = 0.7kw
I did the math and actually laughed out loud
fukn lol oscar you cheeky fuk
The gift that keeps on giving
Lmfao
Shiiieeettt carayan nails it again
http://i.imgur.com/VQLGJOL.gif
This thread just keeps on delivering
http://i.imgur.com/fqrJUCI.gif
http://i.imgur.com/ZS5J9BM.gif
http://i.imgur.com/zeGnBC8.gif
EKVTIR-T
18-09-2014, 03:51 PM
I have come to terms with the fact that 80% of ozHonda posts are troll -_-most of them replying dont have kseries and havent even had a car tuned so take most of it with grain of salts
theres a few who know their K stuff tho,me excluded
Stevil
18-09-2014, 04:54 PM
Carayan yes he did reveal he had a stock exhaust system after advice given, whats your point ?, doesnt change the fact that he was advise that he would need a 3inch system to get 150kws and ive pointed out that 2.5inch is plenty.
For $1100 dollar to gain what a few kws and alot more drone ??
Carayan ya clutching at straws, mate dial in a bit of camber and ya dyno numbers change, diff rolling diameter of tyre and dyno numbers change ! so many variable when dynoing cars. That you dont get this doesnt suprise me B-(
' anything less than 3" would be a waste of money '. lol That is incorrect advice if you only want 150kw at the wheels !!
now where's that potato peeler B-)
Stevil
18-09-2014, 04:57 PM
I guess the 1 good thing this thread highlights is who not to take advice from ! B-)
Hey Carayan I like how you use the word infinetly better, now WTF does that actually mean ? lol, why cant you post your own experiences ?
Super-DA9
18-09-2014, 05:53 PM
Lol so much mud in hear
He's already decided on 3" zorst m80
Now that this is settled, let's spam some more, get onboard m80's
http://iliketowastemytime.com/sites/default/files/best_animated_images_car_jump_in.gif
RenzokukenJ
18-09-2014, 06:21 PM
most of them replying dont have kseries and havent even had a car tuned so take most of it with grain of salts
theres a few who know their K stuff tho,me excluded
Take this post with a grain of salts
Carayan yes he did reveal he had a stock exhaust system after advice given, whats your point ?, doesnt change the fact that he was advise that he would need a 3inch system to get 150kws and ive pointed out that 2.5inch is plenty.
For $1100 dollar to gain what a few kws and alot more drone ??
Carayan ya clutching at straws, mate dial in a bit of camber and ya dyno numbers change, diff rolling diameter of tyre and dyno numbers change ! so many variable when dynoing cars. That you dont get this doesnt suprise me B-(
' anything less than 3" would be a waste of money '. lol That is incorrect advice if you only want 150kw at the wheels !!
now where's that potato peeler B-)
I guess the 1 good thing this thread highlights is who not to take advice from ! B-)
Hey Carayan I like how you use the word infinetly better, now WTF does that actually mean ? lol, why cant you post your own experiences ?
Stevil, no one wants to pay for a 2.5inch exhaust, and 2 months later want more power and pay for 3 inch
That's why you save your money and get rid of all restrictions from the start. That's the whole point of getting a exhaust.
SHOGUNOVDDRK
18-09-2014, 06:31 PM
most of them replying dont have kseries and havent even had a car tuned so take most of it with grain of salts
Nutting wong wit dat clunt, spam is now served with a grain of salt.
Now that this is settled, let's spam some more, get onboard m80's
http://iliketowastemytime.com/sites/default/files/best_animated_images_car_jump_in.gif
I concur dear sir.
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-31100-GET-IN-gif-Johnny-Depp-Fear-an-ZCte.gif
Take this post with a grain of salts
http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m611or9Ka41rteyg0o1_500.gif
That's why you save your money and get rid of all restrictions from the start. That's the whole point of getting a exhaust.
Das it.
Stevil
18-09-2014, 06:40 PM
I didnt argue for choosing a 2.5 over 3.0 ! merely stated that a 2.5 will do the job, as I said before the he didnt state what base he was starting from. I know from my own experiences that my thick walled mild steel 2.5 zoorst had no trouble delivering 150 Kws +.
carayan
18-09-2014, 07:35 PM
stevil man you are right yes, you can use a 2.5 blah blah blah
3inch is better. its more expensive yes, not only that buts its also more future proof. we get it. you have a 2.5 inch. you made 184bypwats.
the bloke asked which was better. he was told. he was told why. thats it.
end of story.
Stevil
18-09-2014, 07:45 PM
keep on pissin into the wind buddy ! you win lol B-)
SHOGUNOVDDRK
18-09-2014, 07:47 PM
http://uofmuscle.com/images/pissing-in-the-wind.gif
lulz.
Alexxual
18-09-2014, 07:48 PM
Everyone is winner okayz!?
<33
doosra
18-09-2014, 08:24 PM
Where did you get your tune Stevil and what mods to make 184kw..? that seems extremely high.
RenzokukenJ
18-09-2014, 08:34 PM
I didnt argue for choosing a 2.5 over 3.0 ! merely stated that a 2.5 will do the job, as I said before the he didnt state what base he was starting from. I know from my own experiences that my thick walled mild steel 2.5 zoorst had no trouble delivering 150 Kws +.
Wot? You've been arguing about it the whole time.
keep on pissin into the wind buddy ! you win lol B-)
lulz.
LOL
Where did you get your tune Stevil and what mods to make 184kw..? that seems extremely high.
Byp tune does wonders lad
Stevil
18-09-2014, 09:00 PM
lol twist my words, I guess all the other K series out there rollin 150 and 2.5s must be BShitting, the OP didnt ask which was better but what was needed to get to 150. Im just as mindful as any other moders when it comes to spending coin. 2nd hand tyres, sways, rotors, rims, seats, motors, gearboxes, panels. I absolutely flog the crap outta my car at the drags, on the road and at the track. I do 55k a year, 10+ trackdays a year, tow a boat and dont give 2 hoots, time to turn the light off Renzo !. Ill say it again yr a Serial shit talker.
DreadAngel
18-09-2014, 09:16 PM
Carayan nice comparison chart but unless your comparing like against like, whats the point ? did they have the same cat and resonators ? unlikely.
The comparison was like for like, if you change to 2.5" or 3", you would fab Hi-Flow CAT and Resonators to suit, no point in making a 3" with a 2.5" Hi-Flow or Resonator...
Super-DA9
18-09-2014, 09:20 PM
lol twist my words, I guess all the other K series out there rollin 150 and 2.5s must be BShitting, the OP didnt ask which was better but what was needed to get to 150. Im just as mindful as any other moders when it comes to spending coin. 2nd hand tyres, sways, rotors, rims, seats, motors, gearboxes, panels. I absolutely flog the crap outta my car at the drags, on the road and at the track. I do 55k a year, 10+ trackdays a year, tow a boat and dont give 2 hoots, time to turn the light off Renzo !. Ill say it again yr a Serial shit talker.
http://i.imgur.com/lwSVNOe.gif
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_majym31Zyw1rxevt4o1_500.jpg
Less mud, only spum now
https://warosu.org/data/ck/img/0055/71/1404434846356.gif
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 09:42 PM
Lmaoooo
mocchi
18-09-2014, 09:45 PM
best thread in ozh
vote +1
Alexxual
18-09-2014, 09:47 PM
I feel so special, thanks you guise :')
RenzokukenJ
18-09-2014, 09:53 PM
lol twist my words, I guess all the other K series out there rollin 150 and 2.5s must be BShitting, the OP didnt ask which was better but what was needed to get to 150. Im just as mindful as any other moders when it comes to spending coin. 2nd hand tyres, sways, rotors, rims, seats, motors, gearboxes, panels. I absolutely flog the crap outta my car at the drags, on the road and at the track. I do 55k a year, 10+ trackdays a year, tow a boat and dont give 2 hoots, time to turn the light off Renzo !. Ill say it again yr a Serial shit talker.
Stevil right now is the time to seriously tell me if you are trolling really hard, because you are just making yourself look more and more stupid.
Alexxual
18-09-2014, 09:55 PM
Is there such thing as a moderator on ozHonda? Lol
RenzokukenJ
18-09-2014, 10:01 PM
Is there such thing as a moderator on ozHonda? Lol
The mods here are kinda like mums.
They sit back, watch, sometimes laugh, but when someone has a cry and taddles on someone, fun is all over lol
lilthug
18-09-2014, 10:01 PM
moderators dont look at every thread/post
there is a report button you could use to bring any post to the moderating teams attention
Super-DA9
18-09-2014, 10:02 PM
best thread in ozh
vote +1
Strong agree, best thread in market lmzo
RenzokukenJ
18-09-2014, 10:23 PM
moderators dont look at every thread/post
there is a report button you could use to bring any post to the moderating teams attention
Reported
carayan
18-09-2014, 10:31 PM
lol twist my words, I guess all the other K series out there rollin 150 and 2.5s must be BShitting, the OP didnt ask which was better but what was needed to get to 150. Im just as mindful as any other moders when it comes to spending coin. 2nd hand tyres, sways, rotors, rims, seats, motors, gearboxes, panels. I absolutely flog the crap outta my car at the drags, on the road and at the track. I do 55k a year, 10+ trackdays a year, tow a boat and dont give 2 hoots, time to turn the light off Renzo !. Ill say it again yr a Serial shit talker.
http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1535/15356206/2404792-8968433545-13615.gif
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 10:57 PM
http://i.imgur.com/SzTfDNA.jpg
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/7OLpEF9.jpg
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MVuzt7j.jpg
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/AzvsTCH.jpg
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/YFP94xq.jpg
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/e9t7vJ4.jpg
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:07 PM
http://i.imgur.com/avSdWhi.jpg
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Rxu6MUo.jpg
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:11 PM
I saw a guy come into the middle of a bank, pull down his pants and shit all over the carpet.
Don't mind me, just making a deposit.
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/atXFAgV.jpg
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:16 PM
http://i.imgur.com/dVgin.jpg
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/bpyyVTM.gif
Vvvtec
18-09-2014, 11:24 PM
oops thought this was the spam thread
http://pix.iemoji.com/sbemojix2/0240.png
doosra
19-09-2014, 06:33 AM
Where did you get your tune Stevil and what mods to make 184kw..? that seems extremely high.
Stevil, plan on answering the question? Just very curious atm
Super-DA9
19-09-2014, 09:06 AM
Stevil, plan on answering the question? Just very curious atm
BYP. Srs. BW = Benny Watts, 1BW = 0.7KW
Credit to the frog for best equations on the market atm
Stevil
19-09-2014, 09:08 AM
doosra opinions have been giving in the past Ive nuthin to add. The threads about a zoorst !
Renzokukenj every time I see 1 of your post now I think of the Mushroom scene from the Hangover 2 B-)
Vvvtec
19-09-2014, 11:11 AM
Stage 1.5 byp motor
So prob frank + cams
180kw is possible with that
RenzokukenJ
19-09-2014, 12:02 PM
doosra opinions have been giving in the past Ive nuthin to add. The threads about a zoorst !
Renzokukenj every time I see 1 of your post now I think of the Mushroom scene from the Hangover 2 B-)
Lol dem personal attacks, nice
Love the way you dodge the questions
Stage 1.5 byp motor
So prob frank + cams
180kw is possible with that
Wts stage 1.5 byp motor
Mods:
Oil clumps
Coolant in spark plug wells
Comes with H0nd4t4 ecu with byp tune
PM me
amant02
19-09-2014, 12:07 PM
Im starting a mission today.
150KW DC5 ATW.
Stevil
19-09-2014, 12:29 PM
Calling you a mushroom ? Lol, you need to htfu you poor sensitive soul ! Seriously you're the 1 doing the derailing here, keep it on topic or is that beyond you ?
Stevil
19-09-2014, 12:31 PM
And how I spend my money is nobodies business but my own B-)
lilthug
19-09-2014, 12:37 PM
sudden urge for some shiitake
carayan
19-09-2014, 12:41 PM
amant02 I had a K20 with bolt ons 2.5inch zoorts, 148kw, a change to a better intake woulda given me 150 easily. I still have the same 2.5inch zoorst right now and my K series makes 184kw now. Will I go to 3 inch ? Yes cause I plan on boosting down the track. Im just suggesting that from my experiences if you have limited $$$$, that upgrading to 3 inches isnt necessarily the best way to go.
Now Ive had a 2.5inch system on my R18 when it was turbo'd and E85 (147kw and briefly around 180kw's) it didnt need a 3 inch system either.
Where did you get your tune Stevil and what mods to make 184kw..? that seems extremely high.
doosra opinions have been giving in the past Ive nuthin to add. The threads about a zoorst !
Renzokukenj every time I see 1 of your post now I think of the Mushroom scene from the Hangover 2 B-)
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/79/79864927ce0ac1762ede493e1dd30c3ce5c48ca83877273bb2 8be155ebc889ec.jpg
Super-DA9
19-09-2014, 12:46 PM
Dead giveaway that he's mud coz he's changed his sig in an attempt to insult Renzo lmzo
This thread delivering hard, dunno if it's peaked yet
http://media20.giphy.com/media/vWDrezW0rMjmM/giphy.gif?w=320
Alexxual
19-09-2014, 12:56 PM
Thread peaks tomorrow at defqon
cbauto
19-09-2014, 01:00 PM
Thread peaks tomorrow at defqon
yuk.
so much trash there.
RenzokukenJ
19-09-2014, 01:27 PM
Im starting a mission today.
150KW DC5 ATW.
Ok
Calling you a mushroom ? Lol, you need to htfu you poor sensitive soul ! Seriously you're the 1 doing the derailing here, keep it on topic or is that beyond you ?
I don't think so lad. I'm providing relevant information, you try and prove it wrong, fail at it, and start to get personally attack me.
And how I spend my money is nobodies business but my own B-)
Definitely isn't, but would definitely be in your best interests
Dead giveaway that he's mud coz he's changed his sig in an attempt to insult Renzo lmzo
This thread delivering hard, dunno if it's peaked yet
http://media20.giphy.com/media/vWDrezW0rMjmM/giphy.gif?w=320
I can't see signatures on tapatalk, and haven't logged in on the Web in months, what does it say lol
Stevil
19-09-2014, 01:30 PM
Lol just to show how infantile renzo, caravan and super have been, they all held hand and neg rep'd me ! whilst other gave me the thumbs up, so I guess we have 3 shiitake growers now ! 1 word boyz LAME, you boyz need to get a life.
RenzokukenJ
19-09-2014, 01:37 PM
Lol just to show how infantile renzo, caravan and super have been, they all held hand and neg rep'd me ! whilst other gave me the thumbs up, so I guess we have 3 shiitake growers now ! 1 word boyz LAME, you boyz need to get a life.
Nice.
Negative rep on wrong information, and you complain about it.
You sir are an interesting lad.
Stevil
19-09-2014, 01:46 PM
It shows your intent either way Renzo, I feel sorry for the guy who wanted accurate info, you have an alterior motive for attacking me ! LAME, youve been a serial pest on ozhonda for a long time ! Gunna go prep my car for the drag battle tmw B-)
RenzokukenJ
19-09-2014, 01:59 PM
It shows your intent either way Renzo, I feel sorry for the guy who wanted accurate info, you have an alterior motive for attacking me ! LAME, youve been a serial pest on ozhonda for a long time ! Gunna go prep my car for the drag battle tmw B-)
Funny, I have never attacked you, only debunked your incorrect information.
Am I a pest because I correct your posts?
Stevil
19-09-2014, 02:15 PM
Again point out exactly where I gave incorrect info ! you cant B-) so drop it ! Ofcourse you ll probably quote me out of context as is your habit. This aint about winning an argument but sharing experiences which may help the OP, dyno s just give numbers, stop watches dont lie. Have a nice day B-)
SHOGUNOVDDRK
19-09-2014, 02:24 PM
Thread peaks tomorrow at defqon
Unce unce unce unce, wob-wob-wob, doov doov.
Hehe cheeky gabba m8
Super-DA9
19-09-2014, 02:40 PM
Lol just to show how infantile renzo, caravan and super have been, they all held hand and neg rep'd me ! whilst other gave me the thumbs up, so I guess we have 3 shiitake growers now ! 1 word boyz LAME, you boyz need to get a life.
Come on Steve-O m8 what did you expect, promised me coffee and donut but never delivered. Poor form m80 I trusted you :'(
Also, where can I purchase this so called "life" you speak of?
RenzokukenJ
19-09-2014, 02:41 PM
Again point out exactly where I gave incorrect info ! you cant B-) so drop it ! Ofcourse you ll probably quote me out of context as is your habit. This aint about winning an argument but sharing experiences which may help the OP, dyno s just give numbers, stop watches dont lie. Have a nice day B-)
Ok
Alexxual sounds like he wants to sell you a 3 inch exhaust ! 2.5inch system will be fine, would you make more power with the mods mentioned and 3 inch ? probably not
Yes, 3in will give more power
Renzo I love how you slip into full retard mode at the drop of a hat, thanks for the laugh !
I don't slip into full retard at a drop of a hat, but I can do a mad freestyle at a drop of a beat
cbauto wtf is mud ? r u kiwi lol
Renzo is a serial shittalker, he wouldnt know shit from clay !
I'm not actually a shit talker, and I can tell shit from clay, they are very different
amant02 I had a K20 with bolt ons 2.5inch zoorts, 148kw, a change to a better intake woulda given me 150 easily. I still have the same 2.5inch zoorst right now and my K series makes 184kw now. Will I go to 3 inch ? Yes cause I plan on boosting down the track. Im just suggesting that from my experiences if you have limited $$$$, that upgrading to 3 inches isnt necessarily the best way to go.
Now Ive had a 2.5inch system on my R18 when it was turbo'd and E85 (147kw and briefly around 180kw's) it didnt need a 3 inch system either.
You actually make 184bw, not 184kw, big difference
Super DA9 want a coffee to go with that donut ? lol
He didn't want a coffee with his donut
whats your ultimate goal powerwise amant02 ?
Not a correction, but amant is trolling you very hard
massive fails Renzo ! haha ya got nuthin, do you have pubes yet ?
I had a lot of whatever you were referring to, and yes I have pubes, but in funny places (Asian genes)
Im suggesting he loves regurgitating others peoples experiences but has none himself, makes up alot of shit ! Renzo dont you know ? you should never go full retard !!
I don't even know what you mean in this post
Yeah but I do it at the track, Renzo does it in a dark room by himself B-)
The only thing I do in a dark room is squeeze my abdominals, open my anal flower and allow passage to my waste, aka poo
This was all posts on one page I found.
There are 6 more pages of your shit.
carayan
19-09-2014, 02:52 PM
Again point out exactly where I gave incorrect info ! you cant B-) so drop it ! Ofcourse you ll probably quote me out of context as is your habit. This aint about winning an argument but sharing experiences which may help the OP, dyno s just give numbers, stop watches dont lie. Have a nice day B-)
nice just nice
Super-DA9
19-09-2014, 02:58 PM
Hot potato hot potato
Stuck in the mud
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar29948_16.gif
carayan
19-09-2014, 03:06 PM
Hot potato hot potato
Stuck in the mud
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customavatars/avatar29948_16.gif
http://theollingroup.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/mud.jpg
not even batman can save you stevil
amant02
19-09-2014, 05:33 PM
DW BATMAN HAS ARRIVED.
I blame this shit fight on rezo. He was rude 1st. No need for that shit man. We have both walked this path before. Same result.
Also Steve mateee when everyone says ur wrong and ur the only thinking ur right. You have a problem there son.
cbauto
19-09-2014, 05:35 PM
DW BATMAN HAS ARRIVED.
I blame this shit fight on rezo. He was rude 1st.
Also Steve mateee when everyone says ur wrong and ur the only thinking ur right. You have a problem there son.
Lol Amant.
There is only one way you become less potato
amant02
19-09-2014, 05:36 PM
Lol Amant.
There is only one way you become less potato
Bro PM me ur address
I wanna buy u a years worth of potatoes.
doosra
19-09-2014, 05:38 PM
You guys are a bit harsh on the guy. I think he's trying to say you don't need 3" exhaust to make 150kw which I think is possible
mocchi
19-09-2014, 05:39 PM
You guys are a bit harsh on the guy. I think he's trying to say you don't need 3" exhaust to make 150kw which I think is possible
definitely possible but his case is invalid cos its measured in benny watts.
Alexxual
19-09-2014, 05:44 PM
You guys are so slack. All the cyber bullying aside, I wanna send my appreciations to stevil for your input Sers.
Btw this thread has made my week at work very entertaining lol ty to all yous
Vvvtec
19-09-2014, 05:55 PM
No problem
RenzokukenJ
19-09-2014, 06:01 PM
DW BATMAN HAS ARRIVED.
I blame this shit fight on rezo. He was rude 1st. No need for that shit man. We have both walked this path before. Same result.
Also Steve mateee when everyone says ur wrong and ur the only thinking ur right. You have a problem there son.
Wot
I was a nice kind man
Ask Boris
Lol Amant.
There is only one way you become less potato
Yep
Bro PM me ur address
I wanna buy u a years worth of potatoes.
Nah
RenzokukenJ
19-09-2014, 06:09 PM
You guys are so slack. All the cyber bullying aside, I wanna send my appreciations to stevil for your input Sers.
Btw this thread has made my week at work very entertaining lol ty to all yous
Sorry
amant02
19-09-2014, 06:16 PM
Lol i just wanted to see a shit fight.
Good shit fellas.
So back to 150kw.
New Water/Oil Pump
Service Head
Supertech combo wombo
VRS Kit
DC 2.2
Injen
PLM Headers
FGK Cat back + Test pipe. (pretty sure this is 2.5inch)
Kpro (thou awaiting on possible deal on haltech)
Make me my real 150KW At the wheel?
This is what I could realisticly spend on my car. As some of it is already on her.
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