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brokenback
03-10-2014, 10:00 AM
Well as the title says...VTC noise at cold start (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRRo_t_Tlu8) on colder mornings, only for a few seconds.   Looking over the webz ...this appears to be an issue especially in colder climates but is starting to happen to mine.  Vehicle done 120K.
This appears to be a bit of an issue on these engines, need to replace VTC actuator.   Well, that's going to cost!  Time to pension it off?  Pity everything else is still top notch.
edit:
oppps mods pls move to Accord forum not Euro...although this is pretty much the same engine it belongs in Accord forum.
Fredoops
04-10-2014, 02:18 PM
Service Bulletin 
© 2009 American Honda Motor Co., Inc. – All Rights Reserved ATB 41171-41384 (0904) 1 of 2 
CUSTOMER INFORMATION: The information in this bulletin is intended for use only by skilled technicians who have the proper tools, equipment, 
and training to correctly and safely maintain your vehicle. These procedures should not be attempted by “do-it-yourselfers,” and you should not assume 
this bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle has the condition described. To determine whether this information applies, contact an 
authorized Honda automobile dealer. 
April 11, 2009 
09-010 
Applies To: See VEHICLES AFFECTED 
Engine Rattles at Cold Start-Up 
(Supersedes 09-010, dated February 11, 2009, to revise the information marked by the black bars) 
REVISION SUMMARY 
Under WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION, the 
Symptom Code has changed. 
SYMPTOM 
At cold start-up, the engine rattles loudly for about 
2 seconds. 
PROBABLE CAUSE 
The VTC (variable timing control) actuator is faulty. 
VEHICLES AFFECTED 
2008 Accord L4 2/4-Door – ALL 
2009 Accord L4 2-Door – 
From VIN 1HGCS1...9A000001 thru 
1HGCS1...9A004953 
2009 Accord L4 4-Door – 
From VIN 1HGCP2...9A000001 thru 
1HGCP2...9A029528 
From VIN JHMCP2...9C000001 thru 
JHMCP2...9C010096 
CORRECTIVE ACTION 
Replace the VTC actuator. 
PARTS INFORMATION 
VTC Actuator: P/N 14310-R44-A01, H/C 8665374 
VTC Oil Control Solenoid Valve O-Ring: 
P/N 15832-RAA-A01, H/C 7131873 
Chain Case O-Ring: 
P/N 91302-PNA-004, H/C 6753560 
REQUIRED MATERIALS 
Hondabond HT Liquid Silicone Gasket 
P/N 08718-0004, H/C 8263386 
(One tube repairs two vehicles.) 
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION 
In warranty: The normal warranty applies. 
Operation Number: 110153 
Flat Rate Time: 4.0 hours 
Failed Part: P/N 14310-R44-A01 
H/C 8665374 
Defect Code: 03214 
Symptom Code: 04201 
Template ID: 09-010A 
Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty 
expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by 
the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone 
Office. You must request consideration, and get a 
decision, before starting work. 
DIAGNOSIS 
NOTE: If you’re reading this service bulletin on ISIS 
and your computer has sound, click on the picture to 
hear an example of the engine rattle. 
1. Allow the oil to drain from the VTC system by not 
starting the engine for at least 6 hours. 
2. Start the cold engine, and immediately listen for a 
loud rattle: 
Do you hear a loud rattle that lasts about 
2 seconds? 
Yes - Go to REPAIR
brokenback
04-10-2014, 04:43 PM
Thanks Freed
yep it's VTC rattle all right.   Worse on colder mornings some mornings its ok.  Just put in some new HPR5 but I think its time to go for this one.   CBF'd trying Honda for repair.
amant02
04-10-2014, 06:20 PM
Might as well do the 200k service now and call it a day.
brokenback
07-10-2014, 02:47 PM
Ok the outcome
Went to Honda and Toyota looking to downsize to a new car.   Honda have Civic Vti-S for $23,990 drive away (Ringwood).  Couldn't refuse...much better than Toyota, so changeover is $11,500.  The Toyota was ok but felt noisy in the cabin and was way more expensive.  We had a 2008 civic so we knew what they are like...save for they now have features and more that were extras on our old civic vti-L.
So pretty much all done bar the signing.  I'll miss the 2.4L but meh...the civic isn't all that bad!
 
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