First Honda - not impressed so far.

[66_vti]

Hi All,

First post here, although we have had our Gen 8 Accord Vti since early 2013.
Been surprised so far with the niggles we have had:
Power steering whine - new pump
Engine whine around 3k rpm - oil pump?
Front rotors warped after a hard stop on the freeway
Rear shelf rattles - been fixed 4 times...still rattles....

All this within 25k kms.

Anyone know if this is normal for Honda?

[cbauto]

Hi All,

First post here, although we have had our Gen 8 Accord Vti since early 2013.
Been surprised so far with the niggles we have had:
Power steering whine - new pump
Engine whine around 3k rpm - oil pump?
Front rotors warped after a hard stop on the freeway
Rear shelf rattles - been fixed 4 times...still rattles....

All this within 25k kms.

Anyone know if this is normal for Honda?
get a late 80's mid 90's honda.

[EKVTIR-T]

That accord not japanese

its made by unskilled ladyboys in Thailand

[Jasemas]

Should of bought a euro
Not the heavy boat accord

[66_vti]

Thanks for your insight guys.

80s - 90s no safety gear

Unskilled layboys....yeah right

Accord Euro - not enough room in the backseat

[Jasemas]

You mean 'safety' as in
"ill let the abs do the braking for me, cuz im no good at it'
'esc because i take 90 degree corners in the wet at 70kmh"
'tc because... well i have no pedal control'

All them safety features fool you into believing you're not going to get into a crash, it may happen
But the mindset all that safety does may make you a careless driver

[lolmclol]

You mean 'safety' as in
"ill let the abs do the braking for me, cuz im no good at it'
'esc because i take 90 degree corners in the wet at 70kmh"
'tc because... well i have no pedal control'

All them safety features fool you into believing you're not going to get into a crash, it may happen
But the mindset all that safety does may make you a careless driver

Lmao you need to calm down bro, strong hate train.

[RenzokukenJ]

Should of bought a euro
Not the heavy boat accord
Wot

You mean 'safety' as in
"ill let the abs do the braking for me, cuz im no good at it'
'esc because i take 90 degree corners in the wet at 70kmh"
'tc because... well i have no pedal control'

All them safety features fool you into believing you're not going to get into a crash, it may happen
But the mindset all that safety does may make you a careless driver
He said lack of safety, not "it's got so much safety"

[PJT]

get a late 80's mid 90's honda.

this be the truth

[Drifter995]

Sounds like you need a new mechanic, and to stop taking it back to the dealership for services.
Same as any car manufacturer, take it to the dealership for services, and it'll be expensive, and they probably won't know what they are doing (bar some)

Actually does sound like your mechanic is making you spend money for the sake of it.
Half of those things probably didn't even need to be replaced, and one or two can probably be fixed easily.

Look for another mechanic that does repairs under warranty (if you have it still. if not, just look for another one)


Otherwise, there's something you're not telling us about the car. But, 4 issues over 25thou isn't that unheard of. If mechanic isn't a scrub, could have just got lemon parts, or be driving the car too hard or something.

[amant02]

You mean 'safety' as in
"ill let the abs do the braking for me, cuz im no good at it'
'esc because i take 90 degree corners in the wet at 70kmh"
'tc because... well i have no pedal control'

All them safety features fool you into believing you're not going to get into a crash, it may happen
But the mindset all that safety does may make you a careless driver

I know right. When are we gonna draw the line, very soon the cars be driving itself.

Where will the fun be in that.

[antony]

What a pity you got the WRONG Accord,Euro looks so much better,and is built and finished to a higher standard.

Apparently ALL the rear parcel shelves on regular Accords rattle,that would drive me CRAZY.

[66_vti]

What a pity you got the WRONG Accord,Euro looks so much better,and is built and finished to a higher standard.

Apparently ALL the rear parcel shelves on regular Accords rattle,that would drive me CRAZY.

Nah not the wrong Accord - the Accord with enough room in the backseat for 3 teenagers. The Euro doesn't have the same space.

[Jasemas]

Or get an Odyssey?

[curtis265]

You mean 'safety' as in
"ill let the abs do the braking for me, cuz im no good at it'
'esc because i take 90 degree corners in the wet at 70kmh"
'tc because... well i have no pedal control'

All them safety features fool you into believing you're not going to get into a crash, it may happen
But the mindset all that safety does may make you a careless driver

he means 6 airbags, better crumple zones etc.

not everybody wants to hoon as much as you do

[Drifter995]

he means 6 airbags, better crumple zones etc.

not everybody wants to hoon as much as you do

He is actually right, y'know.
The added safety features are making people lazy/ less skilled. Relying too much on the safety features, and less on driver skill

[lolmclol]

I'm keen to see some research that backs your opinion.

[cbauto]

I'm keen to see some research that backs your opinion.
times two

[MAZ.827]

problems are inevitable, you just gotta live with it mate especially since you got a Honda HAHA jokes.... is this the v6 vtec one, does it go hard?

could it be possible that the parts you replaced were never replaced by your mechanic?

parcel trap problem? maybe use Zip Ties to tie that badboy down

[lolmclol]

You mean 'safety' as in
"ill let the abs do the braking for me, cuz im no good at it'
'esc because i take 90 degree corners in the wet at 70kmh"
'tc because... well i have no pedal control'

All them safety features fool you into believing you're not going to get into a crash, it may happen
But the mindset all that safety does may make you a careless driver


He is actually right, y'know.
The added safety features are making people lazy/ less skilled. Relying too much on the safety features, and less on driver skill

5char


I'm keen to see some research that backs your opinion.


times two

http://i.imgur.com/51Kp5Qc.png

[amant02]

lolmclol and cbauto.

Potato's

You really think there is real research being done on disadvantages of these technology.

Or you think money is being spend researching on the benefits of these technology?

Lets face it, Not everyone is Takumi and can do Human ABS 100% at all times.

- There is no replacement for the idiot behind the wheel.

My view.

[curtis265]

lolmclol and cbauto.

Potato's

You really think there is real research being done on disadvantages of these technology.

Or you think money is being spend researching on the benefits of these technology?

Lets face it, Not everyone is Takumi and can do Human ABS 100% at all times.

- There is no replacement for the idiot behind the wheel.

My view.

it's time to stop posting

[amant02]

I dont think I said anything wrong, maybe expect that disadvantages line, but im referring to the topic of its making drivers worse.


Hey they call me potato, only fair if i get to call em potato back right?



PS: I know it will bring hate in the spamming world. meh... been there already.

[lolmclol]

it's time to stop posting

This.

[wolfleader]

lolmclol and cbauto.

Potato's

You really think there is real research being done on disadvantages of these technology.

Or you think money is being spend researching on the benefits of these technology?

Lets face it, Not everyone is Takumi and can do Human ABS 100% at all times.

- There is no replacement for the idiot behind the wheel.

My view.


I dont think I said anything wrong, maybe expect that disadvantages line, but im referring to the topic of its making drivers worse.


Hey they call me potato, only fair if i get to call em potato back right?



PS: I know it will bring hate in the spamming world. meh... been there already.

all that JDM car envy has turned scrambled your brain

we all know who the real potato is here, and that's you

amant02 the potato of potatos

[cbauto]

amant02 the potato of potatos
fkn LOL

told

[Michael Nguyen]

You mean 'safety' as in
"ill let the abs do the braking for me, cuz im no good at it'
'esc because i take 90 degree corners in the wet at 70kmh"
'tc because... well i have no pedal control'

All them safety features fool you into believing you're not going to get into a crash, it may happen
But the mindset all that safety does may make you a careless driver

Heh, is laugh like extreme loud, i am hear, in ear, isnt you is have crash a lot?

[Baby Face]

doubt its the oil pump

[Drifter995]

I'm keen to see some research that backs your opinion.

And where would you expect to see research?
Why would there be research? The only thing would be how it's making cars easier to drive, and to control.
If you think about it, back in the 70's and 80's, none of the cars had airbags, tcs or abs. Yet, people didn't crash and die all that often (granted, it was more than today. Whether that is because of unsafe cars, lack of safe roads, lack of laws, lack of focus on driver training, etc. is unclear)
But, think about it; Airbags give people something to rely on/ something to stop them dying in the car. Abs? Something to stop the tyres locking up, should they need to brake hard (ie, any instance on gravel, according to the abs. And coming to the lights, cause god knows how many people like to just slam on the brakes at the lights for no reason). Tcs? Those who feel like stomping it (granted, not all that common in old ladies, but pretty common in kids). The airbags, whilst they do save peoples lives, and I'm not arguing that they aren't useful/ needed, I'm saying they give people more security/ less reason to worry, should they crash. Whereas if you crash in a car without one, you're pretty boned. So, more or less, if you have a car without those features, you're pushed to want to drive more carefully/ be more wary. You know when your brakes lock up (whether it be from finding out once, or from feeling it), you can tell when you don't have traction.
Again, I'm not saying it's bad to have safety, I'm just saying I think it's caused driver skill to go down a bit/ get lazy in a sense, as they don't have to worry about a car crash being fatal (which, they half shouldn't have to worry about dying, but at the same time, you shouldn't really have in your mind 'well ****, If I ever have a head on at 110km/h, I won't die'

More or less common sense, and putting 2 + 2 together, to make fish. I'm still adament on teaching people to drive in older shitbox cars for that reason. Not in heavy traffic flow to begin with, but, it seems to give them a better understanding of how the car works. Also better to learn how it works, as there is less electric run stuff, which is handy.

Although, it's probably just coming from me having an older car. Every other person I've talked to with a car pre-abs/tcs/srs has thought the same. Could be bias/ arrogance from my part, but it does make sense/ show a bit (or at least, if bias, highlighted by bias)

But, again. It's an opinion. There wouldn't be any research on safety features having the possibility of any downsides. It would probably not go down well anywhere.

but, had a small gander, and found this, which doesn't really go on much so the same side I'm talking about, but makes other good points;
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/07/do-driver-aids-make-us-worse-drivers/
Another good one;
http://www.crankandpiston.com/lifestyle/do-driver-aids-make-us-worse-drivers/

Also, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm an amazing driver because I have a car without driver assists, nor am I saying I'm any better because of it, or that I'm an awesome driver in general, blah blah. Just saying, it does make sense that it takes away the skill required in a sense. Only by a small margin in some cases. And also gives you an added sense of security, which can also get you a bit too comfortable, etc etc.
But yeah.

[amant02]

fkn LOL

told

What a fake account posts doesn't count.

[cbauto]

What a fake account posts doesn't count.
who u calling fake?

[amant02]

who u calling fake?

Givme another chance to call you potato. :)

[RenzokukenJ]

Givme another chance to call you potato. :)

you lost that chance when you proved that you were a potato

[RenzokukenJ]

Heh, is laugh like extreme loud, i am hear, in ear, isnt you is have crash a lot?

LOL fuk

[amant02]

you lost that chance when you proved that you were a potato

Man get of your high horse. There are posts that you look super potato too.

[Drifter995]

Literally cannot use this forum whilst I am at work. It hates anything and everything mobile, it seems. Weird

[RenzokukenJ]

Man get of your high horse. There are posts that you look super potato too.

lmfao sure buddy, if that makes you feel better

[wolfleader]

this is me irl guies
http://whatscookingamerica.net/Vegetables/Russet_Potato.jpg

potato pls