EG budget stance project

[OzNewbie]

Hey guys,

Been long term member of the forum. i sold my :honda: civic about a year ago and now i need another for a stanced daily project.:thumbsup:

I have a few questions about stance on a budget.

Im wanting something low, camber (not crazy, but definately stand out-ish), stretched tyres on some nice dished rims.

What will i need to get this look?

coil overs?
camber kit ? what exactly is needed here ?
what size offset rims/tyres?

Im new to stance, but i need it in my life. It will be cheap car about $1000-1500 (slight work, no RWC/rego costs included, 1.5 carb is fine by me, this wont be my speed fix), cheap camber kit/lowering kit $500-1000.... about $1000 for wheels.

I dont mind 2nd hand parts, I dont mind a crappy ride, its only a to work and back vehicle. Car needs to pass the 50/50 eye test ... looks good at 50meters at 50kmph

thanks guys, any links, pics, advice welcomed

[EKVTIR-T]

I hope this is a troll...

[integraR]

should buy wheels with brands such as rota, xxr as they are new

and cheaper than brands like bbs rays as they are used and overpriced

[OzNewbie]

I hope this is a troll...

Why?

thought it better to ask so I know where/what to look at.

Im a noob, yes. But I thought the very idea of forums was to ask/discuss/learn

Even though the budget is non existant, its better than cut springs on chrome rims. Well I thought so anyway.

I was thinking of sleeves just http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=548/CA=71

and top mounts on the front
http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=642/CA=71

and 8 " 16s with +0, +20 offset
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/XXR-531-jdm-Rims-set-of-4-16-x-8-4x100-114-3-Honda-Civic-MX5-/261738092183?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cf0ce5697



how do I get camber though? Whats needed

(arch roll of course. Maybe slight flare if required, also if I can find anyone to do decent/cheap job in brisbane)

[lexlutherz]

Some natural camber can be achieved by just dropping the height of your car with coilovers or springs/shocks, or get camber arms if you want to be precise about it.

Guard rolling should be sufficient, you shouldn't need to flare unless you're getting wheels with mad offset or width.

[mocchi]

this gonna be sick build

cant wait for updates bro

[OzNewbie]

Opppssss

[OzNewbie]

Thanks for the helpful replies.

And to the elite, sorry for the great offence I have caused.


Its daily hack, 3-3.5k is max for car/mods for me, 4-5k on road rego/repairs etc.

I get the feeling that look isn't appreciated here? If that's the case I can check out stanceworks.

[dove grey 64]

I'd always choose function over form but its your car, do what you like.
Like the other guy said, lowering your ride height will naturally develope camber so get camber arms last.
Don't know what state your in but defects are more then likely to happen when your stanced, keep the costs of clearing defects and time away from work in mind. It would make the "budget" aspect blow out

[PJT]

First thing you need to install is an Australian standard 4 point immobilizer. This is required for all vehicles made pre 1995 in order to qualify for comprehensive car insurance. You will need comprehensive car insurance when your hella flush, stanced, completely undrivable death trap hits a very small pot hole and sends you into a pensioners rose garden.
Jokes. I'm sure will handle awesome..

[EKVTIR-T]

Thanks for the helpful replies.

And to the elite, sorry for the great offence I have caused.


Its daily hack, 3-3.5k is max for car/mods for me, 4-5k on road rego/repairs etc.

I get the feeling that look isn't appreciated here? If that's the case I can check out stanceworks.

Mate its not elitism,if you had asked for help with mechanical issue or some reasonable mods I'd be the 1st to jump in and try to assist



but what you've done is ask advice on how to build a shit box that could be dangerous and also a cop magnet which will send you broke,and by the sound of it you have limited funds already

my advice would be forget this stance stuff and just do a bit lower with good suspension and sure wider wheel/tyre but not stance spec...





if you decide to ignore this then try putting this thread on jdmst,you might get better responses from stance gurus :thumbsup:

[OzNewbie]

ummm, now i see where your coming from.

I dont want crazy, 1/4 rear tyre on the road, dangerous sh*t.
Also dont want to be getting defected every other week.

clean, low and nice wheels with a bit of camber is what il be aiming for. Maybe using stance in the thread automatically sets of alarm bells as 'stance' is usually associated with the extreme.

actually now i read it back/replies etc. I do think ive came across wrong. Of course I want safe. But what i meant about crappy ride is I dont mind scraping the odd bump/very slight scrubbing/hard ride etc. But definatly not dangerous.

can i start again .... ?

.... what would you guys recommend for a safe/lowering options/height/wheel offset on a budget for a (slow/non race spec) daily ?

thanks

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t548/DollyBockridge/Gladis/20140423_164208_zpsqqnisgqd.jpg (http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/DollyBockridge/media/Gladis/20140423_164208_zpsqqnisgqd.jpg.html)

15x7+25 on 195/50 on unrolled guards and scrubs at times. If I rolled my guards I'd be able to go lower (1 finger gap between tyre and guard)

Keep your eyes peeled and save money and you'll find some bargain legit wheels aye.

[PJT]

27747
15x7 +41 with 205/50/15 tyres, -2 degrees front camber.

"Low" king springs with Koni sports. At high dampening never scrapes. If I rolled could run the shocks softer.

[2MPRS]

16x8 +20 on coils never scrub unless full lock shogunovddrk has been in my car aswell isnt as bad as people make it out to be.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2076wdv.jpg

[OzNewbie]

thanks for the pics guys. helps heaps !!!

2MPRS, thats what im looking for. Do you have any more pics? Would you recommend it? I would love a tiny bit more on the front so the lip is inline with the front guard/wing, and adjust the back to match. You think it could it be done safely?

PJT and Shogunovddrk, thanks for the pics guys - anymore? probably from front or back, showing off the offset/camber

[2MPRS]

mines tucking front and rear
http://i59.tinypic.com/rm6y5d.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/2uhrgw7.jpg

[2MPRS]

tbh i wouldnt go any lower unless you have stupid spring rates. i have the front and rear gaurds rolled, rear camber kit. fronts i would like to get a camber kit but thats with stock camber

[EKVTIR-T]

thats not bad 2mprs ^ not overboard cambered or stretched


how is ride comfort? wat coils?

[OzNewbie]

im loving that. got any square on and taken low ... from the front / back ?

[EKVTIR-T]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5289/5281976332_378aed8255_b.jpg

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

thats not bad 2mprs ^ not overboard cambered or stretched


how is ride comfort? wat coils?
It's beautiful Clint, the ride comfy mang.

[2MPRS]

they are godspeed mono rs 10kg front 8kg rear. tbh im never gonna track the car they get alot lower then what i have it set at (roughly another 3-5cm drop), ride really really nice. dunno how long they will last as they are cheaper coilovers

[curtis265]

mines tucking front and rear
IMG]http://i59.tinypic.com/rm6y5d.jpg[/IMG]
http://i62.tinypic.com/2uhrgw7.jpg

taht sthe perfect fit i reckon

does taht rub at all?

[2MPRS]

really only scrubs when going around tight bumpy corners

[mattsrea]

not eg but close enough to give you ideas.
Old 2 day setup when i had these wheels, 15x7 + 25 on 205/50s. Slightly tucking front and rear, rolled guards, natural camber all round.
Rears don't scrub but fronts scrub on full lock.
http://i60.tinypic.com/2111e77.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/rr7amp.jpg

Lowered on Koni/GC OTS spring rates so too soft for wide wheels lol

[amant02]

Wow ozhonda now supports stance help?

Fk this word has been taken out of proportion.

In the days when some says stance in a car. I think race car sort of look.

Negative Camber, wide tires and light weight rims, every part fit for function to make car better.


My advise to you as per others, dont do it!.

1. Its not safe, endanger your life, your loved ones and other road users.
2. Your already broke as per your post .... A setup like this isnt exactly cheap, reliable isn't a word mentioned when talking stance.
3. Only Guises wit little dicks do it as they are trying to compensate
4. I have not driven a "stanced" car yet, but pretty sure it would make some funny sounds if not done properly.
5. Risks involved with rolling/flaring guards.
6. Have I mentioned its slowing your vtec down? Hurt nearly every aspect of performance from your car.

[mattsrea]

We're here to help amant02, we are not here to judge peoples cars here, their choice, their decision. Its not your car. Thats why they come on the forums. Surely most of us (including myself now) doesn't support stance but if OP wants to stance his car, let him stance.
Though i would agree on number 2 4 and 5. Just because its a honda doesn't mean it has vtec.

[Super-DA9]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5289/5281976332_378aed8255_b.jpg

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I love how this is apparently 'cool' these days

[OzNewbie]

it will be as per white and yellow coupes in this thread. not ott like the red hatch.

[PJT]

As requested

[dove grey 64]

I wouldn't say that yellow coupe was "stanced", just well fitted.

[2MPRS]

heres more pictures, mind the headlights havent adjusted them yet

http://i57.tinypic.com/28r2p7t.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/15xtugn.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/2q20hg0.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/xgb8tg.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/2zso1uu.jpg

[Glocker]

Sik denjis m8 where did ya get them

[someonewholives]

One word of advice, don't stretch the tyres. It's dangerous and you will definitely be defected. I'm not saying don't stance it, in fact I like a little bit of it. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/30/0e6470abd4052c3271998bbca6e13ec1.jpg

[karimito]

Can anyone recommend a good competition clutch for my honda ek4 b16a2 ??

[Hondarally]

Can anyone recommend a good competition clutch for my honda ek4 b16a2 ??

I recommend Bilstein monotube dampers with Eibach springs for a good budget clutch. If money is no object, then look into MCA gold series..

[SpikeED3]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5289/5281976332_378aed8255_b.jpg

of course. You have to fit the mould here in Australia and be like every one else. Individualism is not permitted. One of us! One of us!

"He doesn't look like every one else, he's different, lets pull him over."

[2MPRS]

i agree with police on pulling over and defecting cars that are stanced or hellaflush. id say more then half of the stanced civics are on chopped or ebay lowering springs not very safe imo.

[SpikeED3]

There's a part of me that agrees with you. There are people who do stupid things that ruin it for everyone else.