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unknxn
19-05-2015, 07:37 PM
Firstly, I am not sure if this is the right section to post but here goes.

So I have a written off bb6 prelude sitting in my front yard and looks like I probably wont be getting a payout for this. So my question what would be better for me to do, invest in getting together parts from a dc2r or use all the parts sitting in my driveway and put them into my EF civic.

I am defiantly going to engine swap into this civic, however, considering my situation what would be the best avenue to go down?

Thank you

PJT
19-05-2015, 10:28 PM
B series would be lighter. But then you gotta spend money.. Any engine swap won't be easy though, so decide what your goals are first.

amant02
19-05-2015, 10:45 PM
Idea - Part out the BB6 for wut you can get.

With Money from Part out + dolans from your own pocket, buy k24 and kswap the bitch.

Blaze
20-05-2015, 06:16 PM
Firstly, I am not sure if this is the right section to post but here goes.

So I have a written off bb6 prelude sitting in my front yard and looks like I probably wont be getting a payout for this. So my question what would be better for me to do, invest in getting together parts from a dc2r or use all the parts sitting in my driveway and put them into my EF civic.

I am defiantly going to engine swap into this civic, however, considering my situation what would be the best avenue to go down?

Thank you

Depends on what you want... If you want the cheapest option, research how much it would cost to do the engine swap for your existing engine vs new engine.
If you want the most power out of it I would agree with amant02 and drop a K-series in it and it will fly.... you'll need to upgrade everything though, brakes, clutch exhaust etc and it won't be cheap. From what others have said when swapping in a K-series, you'll need to have at least $10K.

Squalled
21-05-2015, 12:46 PM
H series are generally heavier engines but do have great torque and power for what you pay for them (prices vary depending which version of the H22 you get, JDM or AUDM, the engine kms etc).

For reliability purposes I'd say go with a B or K series. The support for those engines is a lot better then H series engines. In saying that I'd still consider a H series as it would be something a little different from the B and K series engine swaps, especially if you go with the H22 in an EF chassis (well these days any swap involving B,K or H series in an EF would be unique to be honest).

If you do end up going through with the build, as Blaze said, you got to have some deep pockets for all the custom parts you'll need to get it running.

RenzokukenJ
21-05-2015, 02:26 PM
you wont get much for the prelude if you part out, theres not much of a market out there anymore lol

Squalled
22-05-2015, 09:14 AM
you wont get much for the prelude if you part out, theres not much of a market out there anymore lol

I agree 110% with this. Sadly the market for Prelude's may as well be non-existent.

unknxn
22-05-2015, 03:53 PM
Yeah defiantly wont be doing a K-swap unless you boys all want to chuck in for it? ;)
The weight on the H22 isn't much more than a B18; for anyone who stumbles across this and wanting to know the differences here it is:
H = 55KG short block
B = 47KG short block
D = 45KG short block + oil pan

But yeah was taking that into account too the market really is non-existant.. sadly too beautiful car to drive.
I defiantly want this for handles over anything else, defiantly not straight line speed.

So again, pack up and send it to a wreckers and invest in a front cut or use the existing car that is sitting there perfectly fine to even drive.

I know the H-swap would be a lot more custom work and will not be as straight forward as a b18 swap so I am really torn since I have it already here. :(

Thank you

RenzokukenJ
22-05-2015, 06:02 PM
do h swap then

you wont regret

EGVTi
22-05-2015, 08:07 PM
H2b my friend. As simple as a b swap. But the H2b kit is 1k to get it shipped over to Australia from the USA.

Squalled
23-05-2015, 03:22 PM
+1 for H2B. The best of both. Have the power and torque of the H22 and the excellent short ratios of a B series gearbox.

unknxn
25-05-2015, 11:24 AM
I would love to do h2b but it is way to expensive, ill have 8k to spend on the swap all up.
But this includes labour ($500), suspension ($unsure), on road costs ($1.3k), tranny (1-1.5), adapter plate ($1.5)

Wait this could actually work, but my mate who is keen to help me with the swap doesn't want to touch the h series.

I will update you guys when I know

u mad?
25-05-2015, 11:33 AM
If you got 8k to play with look into k swap

carayan
25-05-2015, 11:45 AM
I would love to do h2b but it is way to expensive, ill have 8k to spend on the swap all up.
But this includes labour ($500), suspension ($unsure), on road costs ($1.3k), tranny (1-1.5), adapter plate ($1.5)

Wait this could actually work, but my mate who is keen to help me with the swap doesn't want to touch the h series.

I will update you guys when I know


If you got 8k to play with look into k swap

dont worry about having a road worthy car

just kswap it


also OP where are you located, if you wanna wreck the prelude i want something

u mad?
25-05-2015, 12:12 PM
only faggots upgrade brakes and sussy, doen't help you beet wrx at the lights, crayon

Squalled
25-05-2015, 12:27 PM
I would love to do h2b but it is way to expensive, ill have 8k to spend on the swap all up.
But this includes labour ($500), suspension ($unsure), on road costs ($1.3k), tranny (1-1.5), adapter plate ($1.5)

Wait this could actually work, but my mate who is keen to help me with the swap doesn't want to touch the h series.

I will update you guys when I know

Best of luck! Why is there no love for the H series anymore? :(

amant02
25-05-2015, 10:17 PM
Im selling K20 Cheap. PM me.

Vvvtec
25-05-2015, 10:59 PM
kswap only way to go

unknxn
25-05-2015, 11:56 PM
dont worry about having a road worthy car

just kswap it


also OP where are you located, if you wanna wreck the prelude i want something

South east melb


Best of luck! Why is there no love for the H series anymore? :(

I do man, h2b > k for sure. If I was to look into either one of those i'd go h22 for sure

amant02
26-05-2015, 01:04 AM
The Fab cost for the H swap will cost around the same as K swap.

You may as well do the kswap cos newer, 6 speed tech, better platform to make more power, better aftermarket support.

I can keep going on about the benefits.

I have driven a boosted BB6, Wasn't even what I call fast or nimble or agile.

Vvvtec
26-05-2015, 01:26 AM
South east melb



I do man, h2b > k for sure. If I was to look into either one of those i'd go h22 for sure

Lol h2b

Squalled
26-05-2015, 07:34 AM
I do agree that a K swap is generally the way to go due to the power that can be made. With $8k budget I'd say it would be pushing it a lot if you were doing a K swap.

The only thing I could suggest is to get a JDM LSD H series gearbox. Some of them do have shorter ratios aswell.

Code:T2W4
1:3.285
2:1.956
3:1.344
4:1.034
5:0.812
FD:4.266
JDM lsd

Code:T2WA
1:3.285
2:2.090
3:1.481
4:1.071
5:0.812
FD:4.266
JDM lsd

Code:T2T4
1:3.285
2:1.956
3:1.344
4:1.034
5:0.870
FD:4.266
JDM lsd

Here are some LSD boxes and ratios for H series engines. Thread: http://www.hondatech.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=2599

carayan
26-05-2015, 10:55 AM
lol

'i got the parts to do a h2b, i have a free h22 basically what should i do?'


'kswap'


only faggots upgrade brakes and sussy, doen't help you beet wrx at the lights, crayon

my apologies grand wizard i forgot that

RenzokukenJ
26-05-2015, 02:41 PM
B swap your prelude

unknxn
26-05-2015, 03:04 PM
lol

'i got the parts to do a h2b, i have a free h22 basically what should i do?'


'kswap'



my apologies grand wizard i forgot that

Cheers for your twatty opinions.

Was there any real input you'd like to give? & what did you want from the lude?

RenzokukenJ
26-05-2015, 03:57 PM
Cheers for your twatty opinions.

Was there any real input you'd like to give? & what did you want from the lude?
He gave his opinion, is there any real input you'd like to give? & what did you want from the lude?

u mad?
26-05-2015, 04:13 PM
i reckon a b16 with a h22 box would be quite nice


b2h swap

start a revolution

RenzokukenJ
26-05-2015, 04:44 PM
K2D sounds like a fantastic combo

Jasemas
26-05-2015, 09:44 PM
Why no love for H series?
Don't be racist
Got that torque/talk yo!

Need to rebuild it first hehehe

RenzokukenJ
26-05-2015, 10:52 PM
Why no love for H series?
Don't be racist
Got that torque/talk yo!

Need to rebuild it first hehehe
Because kseries twice power and talk after vct tune