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eridzone
16-12-2015, 07:25 PM
Hi All,

I have just bought an Integra, last owner was kind of motor enthusiast and has changed so many things from stock to custom tuned.

Now after driving the car for two days, I am feeling ride is not comfortable I mean I thought suspensions are stiff.

So I went to a Suspension/Wheel shop after checking the car he told me that your car is tuned for high speed cornering with this set of figures
Camber front negative 3 with slight toe
Camber rear 1.5 or 2 without toe
Adjustable suspensions are set to lowered the vehicle and probably configured for a little harder damping.
Yokohama tyres 195/50R15 advan AD050 with advan racing wheels

Now, let me describe a little about my driving preference, I mostly drive smooth like a family man but occasionally I try to accelerate off the line or sometimes try to speed up on freeways just to enjoy acceleration. I dont drive like a racer or neither need a high speed turns.

Other concern is economy, means I am not a rich person so that I cannot easily afford every now and then wheel alignments($120) and replacing tires after every 20-30K. All I want is a economical yet fun car with maximum possible straight line acceleration, I think personally with this type of configuration eventually after 5 or 10k(in a year I usually drive around 15-20K my work place is 10mins drive but I often travel interstate like 750Kms one side) I would need to either replace the tires or atleast align the wheels two times a year, What I was advised by bridgestone engineer" unless you drive interstate this setup will not give you extra and unusual wear on tires"

Now with my driving style and focus about economy what you guys think should I do, stay and live with this camber and toe and just change suspension setting by adjusting ride height (probably a little high) and change the damper setting to little soft as I feel a bit hard or uncomfortable after driving for more than one hour OR restore the camber and toe back to stock i.e. zero or anything close to zero with then try to change suspensions setting because I was told by an engineer that these suspensions are tuned to suit camber etc to provide optimal handling in corners. All I need is best off the line and straight line acceleration with not out of par but reasonable corners with normal speed and normal tyre wear, Is this possible with same camber and toe but with changed suspension configuration(I must have to do it for relaxed driving i.e. suspension thing) or else I have to reconfigure and retune both?

Thanks in advance

cbauto
16-12-2015, 09:27 PM
Pm username lolmclol


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DreadAngel
16-12-2015, 09:27 PM
Can you tell us exactly what your suspension setup is?

More info, photos, etc...

*Getting tired of asking for more specifics*

eridzone
16-12-2015, 09:37 PM
Can you tell us exactly what your suspension setup is?

More info, photos, etc...

*Getting tired of asking for more specifics*

I have BC coilovers installed with camber kit with front, rear swaybars

DreadAngel
16-12-2015, 10:40 PM
I have BC coilovers installed with camber kit with front, rear swaybars

That's a start, which BC coilovers and what settings are they currently on?

u mad?
16-12-2015, 11:59 PM
Op why not just part it out and buy some stock sussy and some mediocre sporty tyre with ok tread wear (re003 comes to mind)

Maybe even put in some itr sussy (assuming you have a vtir)

RenzokukenJ
17-12-2015, 02:38 AM
Why buy such a car

Renaissance_x
17-12-2015, 08:16 AM
Perhaps change from bc coilovers to something like kw or tein super street.

eridzone
17-12-2015, 03:05 PM
please, to all guys, as i have already mentioned I want to keep it economical that means changing the tires or selling them and again buying is like another big time taking job, I would love to keep all the stuff installed in the car just want to mold them to my taste.

I bought this car because of clean and unmolested condition, yes it is vti-r. because tires are still road legal and not much worn out so thats why I am wishing to stay with current components and only re-configure them to last longer as much as possible

Any idea after how long with this setup I might need to change the tires?

eridzone
17-12-2015, 03:21 PM
what about toe does it affect tyre aging as well?

Any idea with 50-60% tread how long I can go without changing camber and toe? and after raising the ride height and adjusting the front camber to negative 1 with zero toe what difference I would feel in terms of handling?

curtis265
17-12-2015, 06:02 PM
toe ruins tyres

cbauto
17-12-2015, 06:25 PM
toe ruins tyres
Toe run over tire. Hehe


Tire run over toe. Hehe

DreadAngel
17-12-2015, 07:46 PM
That's a start, which BC coilovers and what settings are they currently on?

Still waiting on reply to this...


please, to all guys, as i have already mentioned I want to keep it economical that means changing the tires or selling them and again buying is like another big time taking job, I would love to keep all the stuff installed in the car just want to mold them to my taste.

I bought this car because of clean and unmolested condition, yes it is vti-r. because tires are still road legal and not much worn out so thats why I am wishing to stay with current components and only re-configure them to last longer as much as possible

Any idea after how long with this setup I might need to change the tires?

Advan A050 are super soft track bias tyres... They're not known really for the daily commute.


what about toe does it affect tyre aging as well?

Any idea with 50-60% tread how long I can go without changing camber and toe? and after raising the ride height and adjusting the front camber to negative 1 with zero toe what difference I would feel in terms of handling?

Again unknown. That's actually quite an aggressive setup so once you do those planned changes, I'd say it will handle won't anywhere near as sharp as it is now.



Side note, while the other guys are being a little OTT, they're also correct. From what you describe of your car, it sounds like a car setup for circuit, hillclimbs, etc ie NOT the car that suits you.

No matter what you do with the BCs, they were never know for good dampening. As suggested by Renaissance_x, get coilovers with better dampers will help with comfort and control.

eridzone
19-12-2015, 12:28 AM
thanks all

PJT
24-12-2015, 11:52 AM
I have same problem. Got a gf who only ever wants to root Day and night. And always trying to get me to have 3somes and put it in her Hershey's tunnel of sin. How can I change her to more my style of girl who will watch DVD box set of Gilmore girls and hold hands?

RenzokukenJ
24-12-2015, 12:03 PM
What the fuk hahahahahahahaha

cbauto
28-12-2015, 02:35 PM
Repped
I have same problem. Got a gf who only ever wants to root Day and night. And always trying to get me to have 3somes and put it in her Hershey's tunnel of sin. How can I change her to more my style of girl who will watch DVD box set of Gilmore girls and hold hands?

eridzone
28-12-2015, 05:46 PM
was wondering if I remove coilovers and install stock suspensions in my VTI-R, Whether GSI and VTI-R suspensions are same from the factory or not because I have found one set from GSI for sale, can i install them or to look for only VTI-R suspensions?

cbauto
28-12-2015, 05:55 PM
was wondering if I remove coilovers and install stock suspensions in my VTI-R, Whether GSI and VTI-R suspensions are same from the factory or not because I have found one set from GSI for sale, can i install them or to look for only VTI-R suspensions?
Stock integra GSi suspension is at least 15 years old.

I have a set. I'll straight swap for what you currently have.

eridzone
29-12-2015, 04:48 PM
please stick to the question, I need to know whether VTI-R and GSI suspensions are same or different from the factory and are they interchangeable? Anyone have DC2R suspensions in good conditions for sale?

cbauto
29-12-2015, 04:53 PM
please stick to the question
Are you retarded?

PJT
29-12-2015, 05:55 PM
Not sure if same, but definitely interchangeable. Type r is different, won't fit as type r uses different control arms. PS. I talked my gf out of dogging with a bunch of her stripper friends and now we're going to a winery instead tonight. No help from you guys...