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Blaze
16-02-2016, 03:28 PM
Does anyone know if you can still find the OEM Honda CTR camshafts, valve springs and cam gears in new condition.

Other than a new ECU and tune, is there anything else that I would need to run these in my B16A?

Daveho1
16-02-2016, 04:31 PM
Why not buy skunk2 or any quality aftermarket item without the JDM wank tax?
To get the most out of cams you need to tune.

Blaze
16-02-2016, 04:38 PM
Skunk2 are just as expensive as any other JDM camshaft package, aren't they? I thought they'd be up there with Toda, Jun etc in price. At least that's what I've seen online.

Daveho1
17-02-2016, 04:15 AM
Well I belive they are about 800-1k? Something like that but you need to figure out what you want from your engine, just changing stuff aimlessly is expensive and pointless.

amant02
17-02-2016, 06:00 AM
As dave said research before you decide to spend. Headwork is not cheap.

Its a b16....... maybe just buying a b18c2 and matching it to your gearbox + current setup will net you better gains.

This will cost around the same or less than headwork(if your doing the work urself). The C2 is only 19kW weaker than the c7, yet its priced like a 1/4 of the price lol.

What lets the VTiR DC2 down is its gear ratios, but your b16a's gearbox is quiet lively for a NA motor.

Super-DA9
17-02-2016, 09:12 AM
Does anyone know if you can still find the OEM Honda CTR camshafts, valve springs and cam gears in new condition.

Other than a new ECU and tune, is there anything else that I would need to run these in my B16A?

They would be available from Honda Japan. I don't know what they cost, you'll need to enquire with somewhere that supplies oem parts.

Although it's not exactly the same, you'll have a much easier time finding ITR cams.

You might want to double check this, but I don't believe that B16B cam gears and valve springs are different from B16A.

connorling
17-02-2016, 09:18 AM
better chance to find a dc2r cams .

to get the most out of the cams, beside tuning, is to have a aftermarket intake manifold from S2 with bigger throttle body.

Blaze
17-02-2016, 02:59 PM
They would be available from Honda Japan. I don't know what they cost, you'll need to enquire with somewhere that supplies oem parts.

Although it's not exactly the same, you'll have a much easier time finding ITR cams.

You might want to double check this, but I don't believe that B16B cam gears and valve springs are different from B16A.
I assumed that would be the case.


better chance to find a dc2r cams .

to get the most out of the cams, beside tuning, is to have a aftermarket intake manifold from S2 with bigger throttle body.
I had read that the intake manifold for the b16a outperformed both the dc2r and skunk2 pro manifold all the way up to 300hp. Can't find the source right now but there were dyno results to prove it.

Blaze
17-02-2016, 03:04 PM
Source: https://books.google.com.au/books?id=1hNGqvojYBsC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=b16a+intake+manifold+horsepower&source=bl&ots=OfNJO_aTNT&sig=RW3lEJohfs2HyH24pPdd72mdH4A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjO0_Hzgf7KAhXFGpQKHVzIBIkQ6AEIZjAN#v=on epage&q=b16a%20intake%20manifold%20horsepower&f=false

Daveho1
17-02-2016, 04:54 PM
What are you going to use this car for?

Blaze
17-02-2016, 05:02 PM
Main use will be daily driver. So ideally I'm chasing a mild street build. The focus will be on the suspension. The engine work will be a bonus, you could say. That's why I'm doing as much research as possible before I start buying parts.

Daveho1
17-02-2016, 06:12 PM
If you are just streeting it then I'd look at sorting suspension and brakes first

babybashjnr
19-02-2016, 04:27 PM
I would recommend going for a close ratio gearbox before starting engine mods

Vvvtec
19-02-2016, 05:26 PM
Does anyone know if you can still find the OEM Honda CTR camshafts, valve springs and cam gears in new condition.

Other than a new ECU and tune, is there anything else that I would need to run these in my B16A?
save ur dollars m8 get sussy and tyres

Blaze
19-02-2016, 05:28 PM
save ur dollars m8 get sussy and tyres

Wheels and tyres have been sorted...just need suspension.

Wheels are RPF1 15x7 +41 tyres are khumo Ku36 205/50

Vvvtec
19-02-2016, 05:31 PM
Wheels and tyres have been sorted...just need suspension.

Wheels are RPF1 15x7 +41 tyres are khumo Ku36 205/50

joocy

u got lsd?

Blaze
19-02-2016, 05:34 PM
I tried decoding my VIN number to see whether it had an LSD but I don't think it does.

Vvvtec
19-02-2016, 05:43 PM
being a del sol it won't

Daveho1
20-02-2016, 07:07 AM
Agreed with the above, sort suspension befor looking for power, most likely you will reach your limit before the car dose

dougie_504
01-03-2016, 07:52 AM
If you want a fun/zippy daily get an ITR GBox. Alternatively put a 4.9 FD, longer 5th gear and a helical LSD into your GBox. Shorter gears and an LSD are the best mods I ever did to my own car.

Otherwise great mods are sway bars and good brakes and tyres.

If you want to do cams I suggest you run staggered profiles, also from my own tuning experience, with the bigger cam on the intake side for the standard B16 given it's compression ratio + displacement. It helps to keep the cylinder head pressure up and create dynamic compression.

Austro
07-03-2016, 07:15 PM
CTR cams = 00-01 DC2R cams. You will also need the associated valve springs for at least the intake side. Cam gears will be the same, valve springs will be different.

Sets come up for sale on YAJ fairly frequently.