b16a tuning?

[alphabeatsco]

i have a b16a fitted with full sports exhuast system, headers to muffler...
CAI ...
that's about it...for performance mods...
do i need to tune my ecu for these mods? or its too slight...and makes no difference?

[ProECU]

It will make the world of difference.

[na]

how are u going to tune it with stock ECU though?

[gambate]

is ProECU in the market now?

[BLKCRX]

Iv tuned 100's of these engines before, i love them. Thats why iv own the most powerful b16 engine in Australia ;) eheh very close to the world.... eheh making close to 500kw now at the wheels.....



anyway here's a stock b16a tuned vs un-tuned with Hondata. these are the typical gains i see on a stock car, with stock headers and a cat back exhaust. the dyno test was back to back tuned vs un-tuned no other modifications)



Regards James

[FR33K]

just outta curiously.. whats the 350 special you got happening?? clicked on the link but nothing happened

[alphabeatsco]

so everyone is saying it needs tuning even with H/E/I???
so wat do i tune with?
im a newbie...

[ProECU]

Iv tuned 100's of these engines before, i love them. Thats why iv own the most powerful b16 engine in Australia ;) eheh very close to the world.... eheh making close to 500kw now at the wheels.....


Regards James

TURN IT UP JAMES!

It doesnt matter what ecu you use (ala Hondata hard sell) or any other product.
Fact is power gains are to be made, and they potentially could be substantial with the mods you have.

For those interested, ProECU release is on target for mid-year, or new FY06

[alphabeatsco]

i dun have much budget...
can u recommend a cheap way?
maybe VSAFC? is that any good?

[kez13]

unless you can afford a decent ecu, there is not much to be gained. better off saving....and saving.....hehe

[alphabeatsco]

so that means i'll at least need a puiggback computer?
any of the APEXI product will do? or do i need HONDATA, e mamange and those?

[kez13]

talk to the guys (like Email them what you want) on here that have done ECU tuning....that mite get you somewhere

[pornstar]

alphabeastco, the the truth is, u wanna go fast, get a clutch and flywheel before the ECU.

[tinkerbell]

VAFC is OK, gains will be higher on the full ECU,

but if cost is a factor, VAFC can provide mild gains ;)

but as pornstar mentioned other areas could provide more 'noticable' gains too...

[ProECU]

go for a final drive change.

[alphabeatsco]

so how much would a clutch and flywheel cost me?
i've got a exedy heavy duty clutch already...
dunno if just the flywheel will do..

[BLKCRX]

Depending on brand a new flywheel could cost anywhere from $400 - $800 or you could machine your stock fly wheel which could cost 200$ or so for machine costs.

Labor to remove your gearbox would be around 4 – 5 hours labor typical most ppl charge around 70-95$ a hour.
Then add on the cost of new fluid for your gear box, (its out so why not replace it $60) and I also would replace the flywheel bolts (I hate reusing any bolt, but that’s my personal thought…bolts are so cheap so why not.) these are 21$ each from Honda and I believe there are 8 holding the flywheel onto the crank. As for your excedy clutch you already have that’s perfect no need to touch or change that unless your not happy with how the peddle feels or how its working.

Regards James

[wlee2]

21 bucks each holy smack me dead.. its almost 200 bucks for 8 blardy bolts..^_^ well anyway i say cluch flywheel is good to get noticable gains on your car.

[alphabeatsco]

well it looks like..it'e either clutch+flywheel...or it's ECU..

[ek004]

final drive + flywheel.. would be my words of advice

and as mentioned earlier, gains are to be had with an ecu, it really doesnt matter if its power fc, pro ecu, hondata, etc... but it would do you the world of good to do some research and speak to people in the know as to what your goals are with your car and the type of ecu which will help you achieve your goals, it will work out cheaper in the end

[**Ghost**]

doesnt machining ur existing flywheel weaken the structural integrity of it? or the balance?