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lee3671987
17-10-2017, 11:56 PM
Hi folks,
Iam after a new set of coilovers for my dc2r as my cuscos zeros are leaking and i find them abit soft.
my budgets around 1.5k, So after some digging around it's either going to be BC or hard race coil overs.
BC spring rates are lower than hardrace, as this is for a track application iam looking at somewhere between f10 r8 ish.
I couldn't find any reviews on the hard race coils as its still a new product? any one had them before or know any other good brands that wont cost a fortune?
Cheers

beeza
18-10-2017, 03:40 AM
Tein ftw.

http://www.tein.com/products/index.html

YeahByuddy
18-10-2017, 07:39 AM
Megan

lee3671987
18-10-2017, 01:08 PM
Id love a set of teins but theyr just way out of my budget. Theyr like 3k mark

mlracing
18-10-2017, 07:57 PM
Yellowspeed Racing or Megans

Super-DA9
19-10-2017, 01:18 PM
You can also get Koni yellow adjustables with ground control sleeve kit (comes with eibach springs of your choice) for around that much. Koni yellows are generally considered a better shock than the generic ones you get on low end coilovers.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1837/9529/products/Honda_special_w_koni_700x.jpg?v=1491850343

lee3671987
20-10-2017, 06:16 AM
Hmm that doesnt look bad actually, might have to consider them.
I notice they dont have adjustment colar in the bottom?

What do u guys think about these hard race coilovers?
https://www.hardracesuspension.com.au/h-s-spec-coilovers-for-honda-integra-dc2-type-r-1992-2001-rear-eyelet-type.html

EKVTIR-T
20-10-2017, 06:44 AM
Hmm that doesnt look bad actually, might have to consider them.
I notice they dont have adjustment colar in the bottom?

What do u guys think about these hard race coilovers?
https://www.hardracesuspension.com.au/h-s-spec-coilovers-for-honda-integra-dc2-type-r-1992-2001-rear-eyelet-type.html Those are actually BC racing.

Renaissance_x
20-10-2017, 07:32 AM
Also you can get koni reds that are also good if you are on a budget.

The only problem is you have to take the shocksout of the car and the springs off to adjust them.

Super-DA9
20-10-2017, 08:52 AM
Hmm that doesnt look bad actually, might have to consider them.
I notice they dont have adjustment colar in the bottom?

In most cases you shouldn't be adjusting your ride height from the base anyway. See this video by MCA suspension:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjsocJxdlYA


What do u guys think about these hard race coilovers?
https://www.hardracesuspension.com.au/h-s-spec-coilovers-for-honda-integra-dc2-type-r-1992-2001-rear-eyelet-type.html

If you want my personal opinion I wouldn't run them. Hardrace make good bushings but this is the first time they've sold actual shocks. IMO the product hasn't been around for long enough to verify how good it is. (i.e. lifespan, structural integrity)

Richard B
20-10-2017, 11:58 AM
What is the recommendation for a reasonably priced, yet still serviceable coilover?

androo
20-10-2017, 03:33 PM
Those are actually BC racing.
Is this speculation or fact?

EKVTIR-T
20-10-2017, 06:24 PM
Is this speculation or fact?Pretty well known. BC also do Pedders and Blitz ZZ-R. They make it easy to tell by the labels

https://www.kamracing.co.uk/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/486x337/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/c/bc-racing-vw-lupo-vn-h-09-pic1.jpghttps://www.hardracesuspension.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1800x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/g/e/generic_1.jpg
https://s1.postimg.org/7e0m2xrcan/160099_3.3156.jpg


btw all HardRace is from taiwan in case you thought it was Japan. https://www.taiwantrade.com/company/hardrace-co-ltd-36238.html

Super-DA9
20-10-2017, 10:45 PM
Nice pickup with the similarity in the stickers.

On the whole made in Japan vs made in Taiwan thing, I just wanted to point out that Japanese suspension can be worse than Taiwanese (on a case-to-case basis). Ask me about my experience with Toda Racing lol. My (Taiwanese) Buddy Club RSD's were better in every way.

Strong regret for not keeping those RSDs :(

amant02
22-10-2017, 03:40 AM
If on budget I'd just get MCA Green + Get custom springs to suit your needs.

My tuna told me their valving system requires no swaybar upgrades. It does it all for u.

If your willing to trust me with ur cash, I has hook ups for em. PM Me

Im slowly turning away from Japanese parts these days, it shocking to know how many products are "japanese" brand but made in another country.

Support Australia, buy aussie made.

Also its not like like the Taiwan products are bad, I have a fair few on my car they work and was great quality out of the box. I just feel ripped off you pay a premium thinking your gonna be JDM af but no they butt fcuk you.

Super-DA9
22-10-2017, 08:39 AM
If on budget I'd just get MCA Green + Get custom springs to suit your needs.

My tuna told me their valving system requires no swaybar upgrades. It does it all for u.

Are the greens the comfort oriented "street essentials" on their website? I'm genuinely interested in knowing how the no sway bar upgrade thing works without having really stiff springs, couldn't find any info in the product description.


I just feel ripped off you pay a premium thinking your gonna be JDM af but no they butt fcuk you.

Yep this is basically what happened the last time I forked out for JDM stuff lol. At the very least local businesses will give you a legit warranty on their products.

amant02
22-10-2017, 10:08 PM
Green has valving system from the Reds.

I have no idea. Im just spreading what reptuable shops have told me.

MSR and Ichiban both support MCA, they recommend running them on stock sway bars. (these two shops are really big in the subbie game with cars setting really good times example MSR runs 1:01 at wakefield, Ichibans toaster runs 10's at the drags with only a 10grand build)

If u need more info call and speak to Josh @ MCA. Im sure he will explain it much better then my dumb ass

Super-DA9
22-10-2017, 10:37 PM
I've spoken to Josh a couple years ago when I ordered my reds, I don't recall anything about using stock sway bars but obviously I didn't ask about it specifically. If I ever call them again I'll ask.

I imagine it probably depends on spring rates since sway bars basically add to the 'effective' spring rate but only when cornering. I actually know a guy who was circuit racing an EG with no sway bars at all but his front springs were like 24kg/mm and I can't remember what the rears were.

amant02
22-10-2017, 10:52 PM
Offt the guy talented driver. Scary not running swaybars.

Your review on the MCA's? If nothing more goes wrong in my cars by the end of year i should have enough for set of purples or a fatter rim and tire package.

For the other guys MCA>Teins. Josh said Teins suspension travel sucks and lets it down.

Super-DA9
22-10-2017, 11:00 PM
Well I haven't driven in almost a year but I recall them being very good. Definitely better than the previous 3 sets of suspension I had (Buddy Club N+, Buddy Club RSD, Fightex DA).

Only negative thing I can say is that I wish they came with helper springs to make things a little easier when raising/lowering the vehicle on jacks (un-captive springs) but other than that they served me well for street and track purposes.

I can't speak for any models other than reds since I have no experience with blue/green/purple/whatever other models they sell.

androo
26-10-2017, 12:53 PM
Pretty well known. BC also do Pedders and Blitz ZZ-R. They make it easy to tell by the labels

https://www.kamracing.co.uk/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/486x337/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/c/bc-racing-vw-lupo-vn-h-09-pic1.jpghttps://www.hardracesuspension.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1800x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/g/e/generic_1.jpg


https://s1.postimg.org/7e0m2xrcan/160099_3.3156.jpg


btw all HardRace is from taiwan in case you thought it was Japan. https://www.taiwantrade.com/company/hardrace-co-ltd-36238.html

Very interesting! Thanks!

Marc_EE9
19-12-2021, 09:11 AM
I used MeisterR coilovers when I was in the UK. Shipping might be an issue, but they're amazing. Really well engineered. One English bloke developed them, did a lot of testing, and I've never used a setup better, and I've had Koni, Tein, Cusco, GAB, Bilstein, Eibach...

Worth a look, I think they're a around $1000, or they used to be.