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danny
26-04-2005, 09:15 AM
Hey Guys

I need urgent help, i'm in the middle of trying to put a B16a out of an EG into my 96 Ek civic coupe (SOHC vtec)

i have the wring and ecu i know i need engine mounts, but wiring loom do i use cause the Eg B16a ECU dosen't fit my dash wiring, and alsomy SOHC wiring loom wont fit the b16a.....

what to do?

has anyone done this before

heist
26-04-2005, 09:26 AM
dude, i hope you know you cant fit an engine that is older than the chassis in you car. it will be illegal, unless its a race car.

so u wanna sell it to me?

danny
26-04-2005, 09:28 AM
na don't wann sell it......

just need help putting it in..........

z3lda
26-04-2005, 09:31 AM
edit. someone bet me to it

danny
26-04-2005, 09:32 AM
that has been mentioned yes....

still need help putting it in though

Kawasaki
26-04-2005, 09:34 AM
if you don't mind me asking... why are you putting an illegal engine into your car?

danny
26-04-2005, 09:37 AM
not my car personally wouldn't do it for my car....i'm doing the conersion for mate and i have him told a billion times =...but he dosen't care so..neither do i.............


i just need help putting it in.............

Chi
26-04-2005, 09:42 AM
You shouldn't do it for him.

Just in case he gets caught gets you drawn into it as to helping him with it.

danny
26-04-2005, 09:44 AM
he is a good mate and and dosen't no thtat much about cars.....i thought it would be a bolt in.....turns out i'm have prob with the wiring.....

anyway if someone could that would be great.........

Chi
26-04-2005, 09:48 AM
The other [Danny] on this forum has done a similar DIY conversion.

PM him about it

danny
26-04-2005, 10:10 AM
do anyone one have an idea?

CTR Coupe
26-04-2005, 01:43 PM
you need ek VTI-R engine mounts.

can some one direct me to the part of the modifcation guidelines that says the engine has to be newer than the car? i think you guys have been reading too many american forums.

danny
26-04-2005, 04:06 PM
you need ek VTI-R engine mounts.

can some one direct me to the part of the modifcation guidelines that says the engine has to be newer than the car? i think you guys have been reading too many american forums.


thnak u for your reply

but what about the ecu how can i fit that....becuase it is a 98 coupe it's comes with a chip in the key..so i dunno if the vtir ecu will affect that?....and also becuase it is a vtec i should be able to hook the wiring up so the car runs (not 100% but runs)...am i correct?

tRipitaka
26-04-2005, 04:21 PM
I need urgent help, i'm in the middle of trying to put a B16a out of an EG into my 96 Ek civic coupe (SOHC vtec)

not my car personally

:confused:

tRipitaka
26-04-2005, 04:23 PM
you need ek VTI-R engine mounts.

can some one direct me to the part of the modifcation guidelines that says the engine has to be newer than the car? i think you guys have been reading too many american forums.

i'm not too sure about the older engine laws either..
a few months ago i went to a reputable wrecker and they told me that it isn't illegal as long as the emissions are checked etc. :confused:

stocky
26-04-2005, 04:51 PM
i have the wring and ecu i know i need engine mounts, but wiring loom do i use cause the Eg B16a ECU dosen't fit my dash wiring, and alsomy SOHC wiring loom wont fit the b16a.....


The EG is OBD-1
The EK is OBD-2

Hence :(

danny
26-04-2005, 05:54 PM
so i need to get a vti-r ek ecu....?

CTR Coupe
26-04-2005, 06:24 PM
no you need to use the EG6 b16a OBDI computer. the wiring will have to be customised to fit the EK dash loom(can buy adaptors) and wiring in the engine bay will have to be moved around to fit the b16a engine.

your going to need a Auto sparky to do that.

bennjamin
26-04-2005, 07:50 PM
you need ek VTI-R engine mounts.

can some one direct me to the part of the modifcation guidelines that says the engine has to be newer than the car? i think you guys have been reading too many american forums.

AFAIK , it is impossible to register a car with an older engine (block) than the chassis itself....ive heard this from a ew police officers , and one guy at the RTA but i do not have any "legal documentation" - Ill take their word for it lol.
But , it does make sense - to comply with ADR's etc...

*Back on topic*

Yes - get the entire set of EK vtir engine mounts and this engine type should be a bolt in :thumbsup:

danny
27-04-2005, 08:31 AM
*Back on topic*

Yes - get the entire set of EK vtir engine mounts and this engine type should be a bolt in :thumbsup:




Bolt in but will in run?

danny
27-04-2005, 08:37 AM
no you need to use the EG6 b16a OBDI computer. the wiring will have to be customised to fit the EK dash loom(can buy adaptors) and wiring in the engine bay will have to be moved around to fit the b16a engine.

your going to need a Auto sparky to do that.


what about if i run an Ek b16a ecu....


the b16a wiring loom fits on the then engine from the fuse box to engine , and the Ek Vtir ecu should run the b16a, just at aus standards?

tRipitaka
27-04-2005, 08:44 AM
EG b16a uses a different ECU altogether than the EK b16a..
not to mention that the japspec engine has more "power" than the auspec..
i.e.
EG b16a (125kw) uses a p30 ECU
EK b16a (118kw) uses a p28??? ECU

danny
27-04-2005, 09:21 AM
EG b16a uses a different ECU altogether than the EK b16a..
not to mention that the japspec engine has more "power" than the auspec..
i.e.
EG b16a (125kw) uses a p30 ECU
EK b16a (118kw) uses a p28??? ECU

i know they are different ecu...but the P30 dosn't run my dash
the P28 does........


if i got th p28 it would run the b16a to aus standards.........

tRipitaka
27-04-2005, 12:34 PM
hmm never knew they could do that..
but hey, give it a go, and if it works, report it back !

danny
27-04-2005, 12:54 PM
hmm never knew they could do that..
but hey, give it a go, and if it works, report it back !


are u being scarcastic or..................serious.....

CTR Coupe
27-04-2005, 02:08 PM
i doubt that will work. why dont you just do what i said and spend the 120 bucks on a harness adaptor and have a sparky wire up the engine sensors to the loom. thats better than buying a $250 computer.

tRipitaka
27-04-2005, 04:36 PM
are u being scarcastic or..................serious.....

i was being serious..